985cc Turbocharged Nova Sprint Car

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30-09-10, 05:52 PM
mowgli

you should try to see it in real life then
05-10-10, 06:41 PM
novarally

Just did the trial fit of the rear brakes;

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...cort/018-9.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/019-12.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/017-12.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/020-10.jpg

I'm pleased. Everything fits perfectly, the final weight saving is 3.1kg (per side), and the wheel is not sitting much further out than it was with the drum brakes.
05-10-10, 06:44 PM
Andy

Awesome
05-10-10, 07:12 PM
Edd

Very nice !

I take it the Sprint C bodykit you have forsale is too heavy to put on this car ?

Would look awesome tho IMO
05-10-10, 11:22 PM
Gibbo

looking good
06-10-10, 08:01 AM
novarally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edd

Very nice !

I take it the Sprint C bodykit you have forsale is too heavy to put on this car ?

Would look awesome tho IMO

I haven't 100% ruled it out yet.......the wings and arches are not as heavy as I thought they would be.

But the bumpers are definitely 'heavy duty'.

The bigger question mark is deciding whether to 'wide arch' the car at all, or leave it looking like a standard Nova.
06-10-10, 09:02 AM
mowgli

Colin, that is an excellent job. they look like they should all be like that
06-10-10, 09:23 PM
craig green

Quote:

Originally Posted by novarally

I'm pleased. Everything fits perfectly, the final weight saving is 3.1kg (per side), and the wheel is not sitting much further out than it was with the drum brakes.

Thats a great result, lets hope the brake performance is what you expect. Does the car have a bias setup in it already?
08-10-10, 06:39 PM
novarally

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig green

Thats a great result, lets hope the brake performance is what you expect. Does the car have a bias setup in it already?

Yes, the bias can be adjusted on the floor mounted pedal box. If the rear brakes do almost nothing I will be happy, it hardly needs anything on the back.

A couple more photos (on the test axle, not the final job!);

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...cort/037-4.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...cort/038-3.jpg
08-10-10, 06:42 PM
Graeme

Is that the cleanest beam you had 'on stock' Colin? I suppose its function over form
08-10-10, 06:57 PM
novarally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graeme

Is that the cleanest beam you had 'on stock' Colin? I suppose its function over form

Obviously I used the worst one I had, no point in cannabilising a good one for use as a test bed!
09-10-10, 10:06 AM
discoinferno

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graeme

Is that the cleanest beam you had 'on stock' Colin? I suppose its function over form

its a beam, he used for a purpose. why does it matter if it is painted in hammerite and tarted up or has some surface rust:tard::tard::tard::tard::tard:
09-10-10, 10:16 AM
Ben

Quote:

Originally Posted by discoinferno

its a beam, he used for a purpose. why does it matter if it is painted in hammerite and tarted up or has some surface rust:tard::tard::tard::tard::tard:

lol well said its a lump of steel that can be sanded and painted and would look like brand new!
09-10-10, 10:18 AM
Jonlem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben

lol well said its a lump of steel that can be sanded and painted and would look like brand new!

Worth keeping in mind that those beams do bend so the any beam will do thought isn't strictly right.

I believe the works manual specified a tolerance on them and if it was out of that you would bin it and start again, obviously ok back in the day when they were a off the shelf item

Car is looking great Colin, brakes are very smart.
09-10-10, 10:44 AM
Graeme

The comment didn't relate to being able to see your face in the shine of it or being able to eat your dinner of it, the corrosion sure won't help the strength of it and I'm sure a sprint or hill-climb car is subject to large forces and is driven harder than Vauxhall intended, I know that the car is massively lighter than most but I don't see the point in adding well engineered, billet brake components, to a old, rust-weaked beam. This is only my opinion
09-10-10, 10:56 AM
paul james

The beam is rather thick metal, so a bit of surface rust isn't going to do serious harm. A bit of time with a wire wheel and some paint, and it would look like new I bet.
09-10-10, 11:01 AM
novaxe235

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graeme

The comment didn't relate to being able to see your face in the shine of it or being able to eat your dinner of it, the corrosion sure won't help the strength of it and I'm sure a sprint or hill-climb car is subject to large forces and is driven harder than Vauxhall intended, I know that the car is massively lighter than most but I don't see the point in adding well engineered, billet brake components, to a old, rust-weaked beam. This is only my opinion

Quote; A couple more photos (on the test axle, not the final job!);

I take it you just look at the pictures and don't read the text.
09-10-10, 11:15 AM
mowgli

can we all stop jumping on people.. the thread is about colins car. graeme made a valid comment, about the rusty axle being the test axle, as in being tested on it, not just offered up on it, and he's had 2 pages of abuse.
09-10-10, 11:53 AM
Graeme

I did read the test axle bit but I wondered why not use a good one as it looks like it bolts on and off anyway, not a massive deal obviously but the know-it-alls have to be there getting there 2 pence worths in, when I was mearly asking Colin a question.
09-10-10, 12:05 PM
MattBrown

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graeme

I did read the test axle bit but I wondered why not use a good one as it looks like it bolts on and off anyway, not a massive deal obviously but the know-it-alls have to be there getting there 2 pence worths in, when I was mearly asking Colin a question.

lol
09-10-10, 12:12 PM
Spudly

Quote:

Originally Posted by mowgli

can we all stop jumping on people.. the thread is about colins car. graeme made a valid comment, about the rusty axle being the test axle, as in being tested on it, not just offered up on it, and he's had 2 pages of abuse.

Exactly, anymore and ill abuse you all with the banstick.
09-10-10, 12:15 PM
Ben

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudly

Exactly, anymore and ill abuse you all with the banstick.

For having an opinion? What is this Mig?
09-10-10, 12:29 PM
Spudly

No for jumping on him and being very snotty, dont you start or ill poke you too lol

Anyways back on topic, that beam looks gash colin :p
09-10-10, 01:32 PM
novarally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudly

No for jumping on him and being very snotty, dont you start or ill poke you too lol

Anyways back on topic, that beam looks gash colin :p

You're right, I've skipped it;)
09-10-10, 01:41 PM
Spudly

Lmfao, is the finished item bolted up now then?
09-10-10, 01:44 PM
Jonlem

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/302.jpg
09-10-10, 03:45 PM
novarally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudly

Lmfao, is the finished item bolted up now then?

Not yet.

Now the new rear brake set-up has all been tested for fit, and I'm happy with everything on the test beam, I shall be transferring it all to the beam which is already on the car (which I know is straight, and looks pretty).
09-10-10, 04:21 PM
scott.parker

Still enjoying the updates Colin, keep up the good work, lol must be the most controversial WIP thread in PNG history, never seen so many arguments over a rear brake setup.

Scott
09-10-10, 04:41 PM
novarally

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott.parker

Still enjoying the updates Colin, keep up the good work, lol must be the most controversial WIP thread in PNG history, never seen so many arguments over a rear brake setup.

Scott

Thanks Scott, it's been an enjoyable journey so far.

Time for some more controversy, as I've had an experiment with the Irmscher Sprint bodykit today...............still not decided on whether or not to wide arch, and if so with which type of kit. But here are some photos to trigger more debate;

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/007-12.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/008-11.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/009-10.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/010-12.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...cort/011-9.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/012-10.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...cort/013-7.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...cort/014-6.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...cort/015-9.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/016-11.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/018-10.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ort/019-13.jpg
09-10-10, 04:52 PM
scott.parker

IF incorporating the arches means you can loose some body weight out the car, and gain some advantage over wider track (EG wheels/tires) then it makes sense to go for it to me..

Scott
09-10-10, 05:10 PM
therealnovaboy

think it would look pretty cool and would like to see it done, however unless done in the proper sprint colours i dont think it would get appreciated the same. it would be hard to pull off with out it looking like some sort of tacky street racer if you get what im saying. would it not reduce air flow over the intercooler.

by the way think its the first time ive posted in this thread and would just like to say its a top motor, respek.
09-10-10, 07:32 PM
Jonlem

old MO's ?? Awesome !
09-10-10, 07:40 PM
Graeme

I fooking love that kit, I wish I was building a hatch and had a million quid to buy it lol
09-10-10, 08:22 PM
mowgli

i'd say. get moulds made & some crazy lightweight copies made. then use them. i reckon that kit would stick 50-75kg on the car
09-10-10, 09:43 PM
burgo

front wings look lush, not sure if the full kit would work though
10-10-10, 09:05 AM
novarally

Quote:

Originally Posted by mowgli

i'd say. get moulds made & some crazy lightweight copies made. then use them. i reckon that kit would stick 50-75kg on the car

It's not as bad as I was expecting, by my calculations it would add around 10kg for the 4 x arches, and closer to 20kg if the bumpers were used as well.

I think if I go down the wide-arch route I'm more likely to use the 'rallycross' style kit;

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...aSport2462.jpg

The man I use for all composite bodywork has all the moulds for this kit, and he will make it for me in ultra-light carbon so it will end up saving weight, which is the name of the game.
10-10-10, 10:27 AM
Ben

I would say the rally cross carbon idea is the way to go if you can budget for that on this build (i know tht is a very costly route) would certainly help you give the car your stamp.

I personally think it would give you chance to give the car a blow over too as imo the red and yellow scheme dont suit a nova, i still think your white yellow and grey you had on B11 OVA all those years ago is probably my favorite Nova livery.

For those not been around that long here is a pic of Colin's old car...

http://members.multimania.co.uk/nova...a-gurston2.jpg

http://members.multimania.co.uk/nova...ges/Rally7.jpg
10-10-10, 07:13 PM
discoinferno

the above nova looks ****ing ace
11-10-10, 09:27 AM
Ben

Quote:

Originally Posted by discoinferno

the above nova looks ****ing ace

Was an awesome machine and the attention to detail was incredible, here is the full spec etc of it, sorry for hi jacking the thread...

B11 OVA
11-10-10, 07:40 PM
Cle

Had a wee look at the Fiberglass bodykit you've bought colin the wings are mega wide lol

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