Bigs 300 bhp xe project

i know what you lot are saying but tbh its not that bad a shell. it looks far worst then it is. the underneith is in fantastic condition and that bit by the back is rusting because i grinded it all down etc and just left it. and regarding the manifold i will never get rid of that. saying that it must not be as good as a BTB or Simpson one is plane stupid imo. how when the btcc put the highest standard on there cars and this will give me gains that i will be looking for. and the fact that no one else has got this manifold and ive got a bit of history on my car.

oh jonlem how can you say its not cool having the engine bay hanging through the front bumper. what you on about? when did i say it was cool! and how will the engine bay go through the bumper ! yea

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Originally Posted by BIGS

oh jonlem how can you say its not cool having the engine bay hanging through the front bumper. what you on about? when did i say it was cool! and how will the engine bay go through the bumper ! yea

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Seriously dude, you need to stop writing in this thread! lol

The manifold is 99% pointless in that you wont see an extra 50-60 bhp which is what you will need to get near 300 bhp.

MASSIVE amount of work for little gain is what Jon boy is saying and most will agree!

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Originally Posted by Will F

Seriously dude, you need to stop writing in this thread! lol

The manifold is 99% pointless in that you wont see an extra 50-60 bhp which is what you will need to get near 300 bhp.

MASSIVE amount of work for little gain is what Jon boy is saying and most will agree!

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doesnt quite make sense to me mate... the manifold is an ex 1993 btcc manifold came straight off a touring car. which on average at the time was using the std style head (non reverse) and producing around the 280hp mark. so the way i see it is how can the manifold and system be restrictive at all??? it might not be the best design with today's standards as most ppl use 4-2-1 manifolds but they generaly only help with mid range torque.

like ive said previously this is a base spec to start with. no doubt at a later when the spec of the engine progresses when we feel the need we will no doubt get btb or build a top spec 4-2-1 manifold but in the same oriantation to this one going over the gearbox...

oh yeah nothing hangs out the engine bay at all, it sits neatly in place only just in the way of the standard rad...

the reasons for it, parcialy it looks mental lol. and the fact it goes over the gearbox gives us a massive amount of room under the engine. so we can drop the engine lower in the bay to lower the centre of gravity. speed bumbs every where down here and a std small block downpipe/manifold allways scrapes lol

Do you not think that BTB or Simpson for example couldn't make you a equally good flowing manifold that actually fitted the car ? That manifold is without doubt the bollocks BUT your going to me making a LOT of work for yourself which will most probably lead to this project never getting finished.

The money required to build a engine of that power is more than most people earn in a year, combine that with a suitable gearbox and diff and your into a LOT of money ! oh and then there is still a small matter of a suitable chassis to put it all in.

Stop dreaming and be realistic, its NEVER going to happen

What are you on about??? There are reasons for this manifold which you clearly have not read.. making a LOT of work?? theres loads of room. theres no point me trying to explain, its all in the posts just u must not have read through them.

The shell is not bad at all. the rear arches are all being cut right out and tubbed so thats all the rust gone there. same with the rear panel thats being replaced which is not a big deal at all. and the rear chassis legs thats literaly surface rust. but what will that matter once its all cut out and replaced. itts having a full weld in cage, rear is being turreted.

What reasons ???

1- so you can run the engine lower ?

2- say you have a btcc manifold on your car

They are the only 2 reasons I can think of, as for things like the equal length shaft setup have you considered that when you lower the engine even more your shafts aren't going to be at a happy angle.

I've read the whole thread and everytime I read it I laugh to myself, I'm sure you have looked into Pepe's build, I don't know the guy but clearly he had the right idea but I wouldn't even like to think how much that car owed him. He didn't build it on a budget and even if he struck a deal on every part it will of still cost a fortune.

Your trying to build a full on race car using bits you can pick up from a scrapyard, that alone tells me you haven't got a chance of getting this thing done.

Sorry to sound so negative, truth hurts eh

looks like a lot of work but should be worth it, hope u get the 300 bhp

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Originally Posted by ck

What are you on about??? There are reasons for this manifold which you clearly have not read.. making a LOT of work?? theres loads of room. theres no point me trying to explain, its all in the posts just u must not have read through them.

The shell is not bad at all. the rear arches are all being cut right out and tubbed so thats all the rust gone there. same with the rear panel thats being replaced which is not a big deal at all. and the rear chassis legs thats literaly surface rust. but what will that matter once its all cut out and replaced. itts having a full weld in cage, rear is being turreted.

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lol Like Jon asked, what are the reasons for the manifold again?

Dont you think if it was that great, it would have been adopted by sprinters/hill climbers/rally driving novas?

What we are saying is its a wasted effort. The shell is like Swiss Cheese and it just aint gonna work. If you are lowering the engine, you will need to fabricate mounts, lower arms, steering rack mounts, tie bars - then you will have issues with hub/strut/driveshaft connection...

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now now ladies..... a constructive discussion is good but I can see atleast two people will get emotionally wound up and get the keyboard rage.....

keep it technical folks.