The Counts Track Day Nova Build

I rolled these today can you guess what they are for??

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rear turrets

They started off like this

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g.../engbay140.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g.../engbay141.jpg

did a bit of arty drawing - which i changed just after doing them....doh!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...turrets018.jpg

and some cutting

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...turrets020.jpg

out she comes

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...turrets022.jpg

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and finished at this point, ready to continue tomorrow :D

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Can anyone guess what these are for? ;)

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Originally Posted by Ernie

rear turrets

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Give that man a goldfish :thumb:

they look like you are going to plate the sills you were unsure of.

if they are smaller then they look as camera angle is teasing us, then i'd say something to do with supports under the wheel well for the exhaust.

this is a good wip thread, showing people every little bit, section at a time

Good stuff!

You make things look simple :)

Liker the turrets.

dr count,

what you doing with the rear seat brackets ?

Baxter the ones from the front of the floor are now in my car.

Good progess dude. Really liking this build.

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Originally Posted by srs1

they look like you are going to plate the sills you were unsure of.

if they are smaller then they look as camera angle is teasing us, then i'd say something to do with supports under the wheel well for the exhaust.

this is a good wip thread, showing people every little bit, section at a time

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Check back in he thread O/S sill has been dealt with and its nothing to do with the exhaust so guess again lol

Thanks btw :D

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Originally Posted by General Baxter

dr count,

what you doing with the rear seat brackets ?

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Which ones baxter? As AW said he has two of them....

Did you get the rear turrets done today James.

Oh yes update in a mo pending photo bucket faf...

Cooool

Today after spending two hours searching various DIY shops for grinder sanding disc backing pads i finally got on with the car.

I started by finishing off the aperture for the turret so the fit was nice and tight

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1002.jpg

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Offered up the rolled sheet that will end up as the turret to check the fit

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1005.jpg

And from inside the car

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1007.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1008.jpg

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Then once i was happy with the general fit (which took ages i will admit) i made up a 'lid' for the turret and welded it up to the rolled sheet - it was taking shape nicely

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1010.jpg

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MMMmm penetration

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1016.jpg

im after the complete set for the back end :(

Your fabrication skills are amazing.

Then i fitted it up to the car again and marked out the general shape inside the wheel arch and cut the turret to shape

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1020.jpg

I then cleaned all the crud off the surface around the turret aperture and the seams around the turret (were i wanted to weld)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1022.jpg

This is how it looks in the car with its lid on

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Then i started to weld it in - inner arch side first

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1028.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1032.jpg

And i stitched the seams up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1030.jpg

Then cleaned up all the edges - finished on this side

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1034.jpg

Here's a quick on with the rear axle in place tp show the rear shock mounting point

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1035.jpg

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Moving to the inside of the car it was time for yet more welding

top

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down the turret

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And bottom

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1045.jpg

And shes home

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One down one to go :thumb:

Again started off with a mark up

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1043.jpg

Then the first cut

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1051.jpg

And some further butchery this ending today's session hope you enjoyed it lol

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Originally Posted by Jay

Your fabrication skills are amazing.

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Cheers Jay! :thumb:

Thats fantastic, your welding is art.

Are you 100% sure the metal your using for the turrets is thick enough??

A lot of stress will go through there, the original turret is triple skinned and that doesnt even hold the weight of the car(on a std spring/damper setup)

Just a thought :)

looks like a nice job your doing there m8.



another good progress thread with good updates and pictures etc.



makes for interesting reading.


cheers

The Saloon is fine still....And if they give up the floor will catch it! The original turret are triple skinned in places not the whole thing. I may consider reinforcing the top of the turret if i feel the need.

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Originally Posted by shy witness

looks like a nice job your doing there m8.



another good progress thread with good updates and pictures etc.



makes for interesting reading.


cheers

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Cheers buddy imo its not worth doing a WIP if its not interesting to read lol

excellent prep and well thought out work as always James. One day you WILL let me have your babies!

Nice work james. i just love the way you just get on with it and make some thing if you know what i mean.

:cool:

Simps - any time mate my stud fee is quite high though....

Ernie - i know what you mean but to see if it works you have to give it a try - watch this space ;) :thumb:

Oli - Thanks you have PM!

No I don't :tard:

You do now - i hadn't written it then....

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Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot

The Saloon is fine still....And if they give up the floor will catch it! The original turret are triple skinned in places not the whole thing. I may consider reinforcing the top of the turret if i feel the need.

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Fair do's mate :thumb:

Is that welding all done with a standard 'home' mig setup? as it seems to lack the 'ripples' you normally see with mig welds, the inside of that turret you made is mostly really smooth. Apologies if it's bee ncovered before but I'll admit i haven't read all 40 odd pages lol

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Originally Posted by MK999

Is that welding all done with a standard 'home' mig setup? as it seems to lack the 'ripples' you normally see with mig welds, the inside of that turret you made is mostly really smooth. Apologies if it's bee ncovered before but I'll admit i haven't read all 40 odd pages lol

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Hi mate this is my welder it is a 'home' mig set up using 10A fuse plug so can run of a standard 13A household plug and i think its 160A out put. I love it its great!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1065.jpg

I'm guessing you mean the weld is flat and not risen like it sits on top like a slug? Thats the result of good penetration and correct wire to welding speed :thumb:

Today's update -

Finished fettling the turret hole (this took the best part of 2 hours to get it just right :eek:)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1055.jpg

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Then i turned my attention to the turret its self and gave it a good lidding

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1060.jpg

Welded it home

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Then i decided to address an issue that was in the back of my mind when i first made these up and was then brought to the for front by Adam on the previous page (and is mentioned every time anyone turrets anything to be fair)...I did some research asked a few peeps what they thought and came to my own solution so here it is - turret strengthening!

I cleaned the internal faces of the turret up and ground the weld back a little

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1066.jpg

Made up a 'second skin' for the top of the turret as i believe the body to be strong enough

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1067.jpg

They go together like this on the inside of the turret

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1068.jpg

I then acid etched the internal faces of the strengthening plates and fitted it all together with some clamps to hold it all in place

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1069.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1071.jpg

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^ top thinking boss!

And welded it all in....'Hi nice to meet you I R Mr strong as funk turret and you are?'

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1076.jpg

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I will be cleaning these up tomorrow, while i was waiting for the welder to cool i salvaged the the std profiled top section to use on top of the new turrets as a locator for the suspension bush etc.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1077.jpg

As so

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1079.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1080.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...urrets1081.jpg

Satisfied people? :confused: anyway enjoy :thumb:

my god man!! think off the weight!!

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Originally Posted by Count Vaux Alot

Hi mate this is my welder it is a 'home' mig set up using 10A fuse plug so can run of a standard 13A household plug and i think its 160A out put. I love it its great!

I'm guessing you mean the weld is flat and not risen like it sits on top like a slug? Thats the result of good penetration and correct wire to welding speed :thumb:

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The ripples I meant, if you run your finger along it, normally even a really good weld will not be smooth, thought it might be caused by the intermittant sparking of a mig setup and you were using a different method, but apparently not! I can actually just see it in your really close up pics but it's hard to spot, really really even welds all very impressive skills :cool:

You actually answered something I wondered for a while actually, how people can run 100+ amp welders on home circuits, where I know the biggest breaker in our house is 80 amp, but that's the output not the input :thumb:

All good info, I'll have to start reading this thread from the beginning sometime soon, not sure how I missed it :D

They arn't actually that heavy as a lot of what you see gets cut away leaving the shape of the inner arch. Tomorrow when i cut the turret to the inner arch profile i will weigh it and compare it to the weight of the removed metal from the original arch.