My Nova 16v Project

No problem mate, glad we got it sorted in the end !

Hopefully the breather mod to the red novas engine will help it survive a little longer LOL Thanks again for the rapid recovery lol

I think if I did prove anything today its how far you can go on a swirl pots worth of fuel ! after the wire came off the switch for the facet I must of done a easy 30 miles with it only running on the injection pump and full swirl pot, now thats economy !

Thanks for the bacon sarni's and countless cups of tea ! Nice one Shell !

Dar, I've got a map I'll dig out for you to use, try it and you can make your own mind up wether the base map will do ;) pukka loom you sold Olly too :)

Cool, glad you went to help Olly out. Sounds like its running great now:thumb:
I will deffo have that map off of you to try:D
Mines a 967EF

Its definately a lot better, once it has a clutch he'll have to see how it goes on the road but it should be fine, sadly no good maps we have seem to want to let his car run without huge problems so he's stuck on something I found already on the ecu, IMO it needs a proper mapping session so I advised he does a few minor tweeks first to make the mapping worthwhile ;)

Your map worked on Ads ecu so the map I've got should work fine on yours, I've got a few issues with tehe stock engine in Ads at the moment so more power is something it does not need lol The map was for a stock xe running creams and a btb manifold, it made 183hp so I guarantee you will see a lot of improvement on what you have been using.

Happy New Year !

nice one glads its runing.. be good to see this nova next year

tonights update -

> sold my fancy Acewell dash on, in favour of standard clocks again, as it was too much hassle for hardly any gain

> ordered some Kent AST1612 cams from Chris Astley, should help me towards 200bhp once it's fully mapped up

> ordered big overbore Ashley grpA manifold from Ashley Competition, which also should help with a bit of free breathing

> ordered Genuine Vauxhall GM cambelt kit from AutoVaux along with 8v baffle plate with incorporated sump gasket

> wired in standard clocks

> half removed gearbox in preperation for clutch swap, but struggled on me tod



got some pics... but nothing of interest, but feel free to ask away any questions regardless :)

Sounds sweet young Oliver, be good to see/hear at a track soon :)

No update, but some pics nonetheless.

Firstly - fantastic service from Marc @ AutoVaux once again, orderd my cambelt kit and cam seals yesterday at around 3:30pm, and I was woken up by a knock at the door at 07:30am this morning to an ANC delivery man, asking me to sign for my parts! Brilliant! Better still - all the parts are genuine GM which I wasn't expecting
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Along with my 8v baffle tray with sump gasket already bonded on, makes life much easier to do the ARPs now lol ?18.56 bargain
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Also, as I plan to go on a mission to remove all unnecessary metal, I thought it was best that I invest in some heavy duty spot weld drill bits, so I don't have to grind much any more, as I hate it
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On with the clutch removal, first off was to remove the end plate to see if the input shaft was removable...
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NOPE! lol doh

However I called Quiafe who were mega helpful, and they crossed referenced the part numbers I found on 5th gear so they could tell me all my ratios
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It looks like the titanic! and this is where I'm up to at the moment
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Big thanks to Quaife, I can now produce/ finish my transmission spec accurately...

Transmission:
-Quaife Close Ratio Straight Cut F20 gearbox

Final Drive Ratio 3.764
...1st Gear - 2.54 ~ 55mph
...2nd Gear - 1.76 ~ 79mph
...3rd Gear - 1.42 ~ 99mph
...4th Gear - 1.19 ~ 117mph
...5th Gear - 1.040 ~ 134mph

(Speeds calculated on my 195/50/15 Toyo 888 tyres, and my new rev limit of 7750rpm)

Nice.
Box off job then.

Thats a bloody long 1st gear,Lol.

55mph in first gear! fookin hell

Long first is the best way. You never use it lol

Good skills Olivia, keep it up!

Is there any advantage of using the 8v baffel ? I got to do a sump gasget on my xe and i know the 2 gasgets are a right pain.

the advantage is the fact the sump gasket is already bonded to it, and its a reusable item lol well worth it imo

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the advantage is the fact the sump gasket is already bonded to it, and its a reusable item lol well worth it imo

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Do you have a part number !?! is it a strait fit ?

Good work Olly

Ash- Straight fit, just requires 8v sump bolts

Looking good. Where did you get the spot weld drills from? I need to do a bit of drilling of spot welds on my car.

the ones i used to rob from the bodyshop i worked in cost ?7 each!!!! so 10 for ?20 sounds good to me

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Yeah, as said - wasn't sure if quality was a problem, as I won't be doing that much, I thought I could afford to snap/ bend a couple :)

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you wont snap or bent them as they are to hard. the difference in quality of spot weld drill bits is basically how quick they go blunt. p.s. you you want the drill going fairly slow and put alot of weight on it for best results

Excellent stuff Olly...

The question is how long till JB gets another nova for trackdays lol

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you wont snap or bent them as they are to hard. the difference in quality of spot weld drill bits is basically how quick they go blunt. p.s. you you want the drill going fairly slow and put alot of weight on it for best results

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+ dont let me sharpen one, it will turn into a drill bit and not work lol

Try using normal length 16v bolts then mate ;)

Be ready with some tissue or cat litter for when you run it up lol

Taken from max-boost website :

use the baffle plate from the 8v part # 90528632. It comes complete with rubber gaskets (proper ones) attached from the factory. Dead easy to fit, no leaks afterwards. The 8v sump bolts (Vaux # 90531211) are M6x13 instead of M6x22 of the 16v sump. These are a bit on the short side. It's best to use M6x20, or at least use the longer 16V bolts with a 2mm spacer to make up the difference.

I used a washer and spring washer on the bolts when I used that baffle plate. Keep up the good work Olly:thumb:

Think i will order one tomorrow. Prob just put a 2mm washer on the 16v bolts !

w0000t, great service from Chris Astley, ordered some of these babies yesterday, and again - great delivery this morning!

Great seller - well recommended!

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Nice one mate, I look forward to having a go in the car around Bedford :)

i'll have to get to a trackday event somethime this year, so i can have a passenger ride :)

big thanks to Paul who gave me a hand today...

box off, you can see the scars from where the clutch let go - ouchie
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ding ding ding - pressure plate took a whack too
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looking normal on this part
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uh ho...
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springs fell out in my hand, so i'm glad they didn't go whilst spinning around at Xrpm

went to replace TRB to find it very worn...
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new on added, with copper slip on input shaft (slighty more was added than shown... JB) ;) lol
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helix goodness 4 paddle with 6 springs
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offered up, that'll do
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helix uprated heavy duty pressure plate
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all bolts up, lined up by eye - gearbox went on first time lol
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All done and it feels great!

i love how much enthusiasm you. if i had have as much mine would be done by now lol.

my motivation is trackdays again, the fact I have a trackday booked 5 weeks tomorrow!

Bedford Open Pit All Day on Saturday 9th February :)

List of things to do before then:
> buy new lifters
> fit new cams
> run cams in
> buy new manifold & exhaust
> fit new manifold & exhaust
> get it mapped

lol

you getting it mapped at northants motorsport again??

Good to see it was only the clutch shagged :)

hell no, definately not - not after the c0ck up they made with my white nova.

will either be Noble again (who made a cracking job) who are 1 hour away, or Track & Road, which is reknown to be the DB's, but its a 3 hour drive away in Rainham, Essex! :(

PMSL at copper slip comment ;)

FYI use a 1/2 inch extension bar to allign clutches, or a old input shaft from a fooked gearbox (something I strangely have a few of no thanks to someones engine LOL)

Not sure I'd bother with new lifters tbh, yours are hardly noisy and the cams don't needthem.

Save your money for mapping :)

Oh dear, tempting the law of sod again are we lol

JB - nice tip, I don't happen to have any spare input shafts, altho I will try and get hold of one lol i won't bother with lifters then, its just something that the Kent instructions said when I was reading up on them

Lee - WTF is the 'law of sod' lol ?

I know they do say in the destructions to use them but IMO I wouldn't bother.

1/2 extension bar works just as well mate as it sits through the clutch and into the crank.

As you say - mine are quiet as a moooooooose anyway :)

Just need to get them in and new timing kit on, and then we're away :thumb:

Did you get any assembly lube with them ?




















The cams that is, not the mechano dildo kit LOL ;)

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Lee - WTF is the 'law of sod' lol ?

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Its the thing that makes stuff go wrong when one books trackdays before carrying out major surgery on ones engine lol