My 1985 moss green xe'd gl!

i cant see there being 1 " let alone 2" different where do the carbs sit in realation to the fire wall with mine removed my trumpets sit about 1mm off the battery tray level

can see difference angles do look similar

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...r16v/027-3.jpg



mine angle from dizzy side of head


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/DSC00326.jpg



obviously i have 90mm trumpets on but they basically sit on the bulkhead 1-2mm clearence


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/DSC00327.jpg

What bottom alternator bracket is john using? Is there a difference or is there anotehr bracket that will allow the alternator to sit lower?

If not maybe modify the lower bracket so it brings it down?

john have you got he right alternator/bracket combo on there the only reason i ask is your alternator looks really high, manifold looks ok but height of alternaotr looks worng to me the 12v feed and ind wire are on the top of alt where on mine and everyone elses i know are on the bottom,

If the alt was sitting too high, the tensioner lever off the standard inlet would not line up with the hole in the alt

Corsa kid are yours 40 or 45's?

John i had exactly the same issue with mine (you should have called me!) using the jenvey who are sbd manifold i think it was the 7 or 9 degree?? As i think the manifold is positioned a little low to keep the cards level as seen here:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...0420081348.jpg

Anyway you have a number of options:

1. As said before lower alternator using a custom bracket (as i did see why below) but this requires more chassis leg mods as previously stated (and is a pain in the balls) and having a bracket made which took me ages and was very trial and error :roll:

2. Use one of SBD's smaller alternator jobs and possibly still need chassis mods. This is the SBD set up on a westfield i spied when having my RR tune (yes i was gusting a full on hard on at the time) but they are only available with SBD's multi V pullys and i'm not sure if the single V would fit.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...0720081656.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...0720081655.jpg

They actually use a smaller GM bracket seen at the lower left conner of the alt here but not sure what its from??

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...0720081654.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...0720081653.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...0720081652.jpg


3. Front mount the alternator were the pas pump on an xe usually goesas Mark said, this i believe would be your best option and the route i would have taken is my fecking simpson manifold wasn't in the way! Speak to mark as at least two of the JOV boys have them.

Gordie chis cut some of the alernator casting away to fit his i think which is an option but not great IMO.

Hope that helps like i said get in touch if you need any more help! :thumb:

mine are webber twin 45's mate, like i said i had no problem apart from making the L shape braket, i must have been lucky took about 5 mins lol

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mine are webber twin 45's mate, like i said i had no problem apart from making the L shape braket, i must have been lucky took about 5 mins lol

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Must have been! Did you say you don't know who makes the manifold your running?

i am not sure who makes it to be honest it has got the coolant pipe at bottom like yours and john's i had to use an old 8v hose from back of water pump to plastic pipe which bypasses the manifold, just like a 45 degree bend but vauxhall pipe, all i know about the manifold is its got gm-miles stamped on it

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/DSC00324.jpg

Corsa kid, if i had your manifold, they'd clear easily as per adams diagram.

James, yeah sorry i've not rung, just finished kitchen mods for today so i'm off for a bath! Yeah mine is the exact same manifold as yours, only i'm running dhlas. So what did you do with the lower bracket? specially made one?

Mark, i've spoken to chris over on jov, and he must have the same manifold as corsakid, as he only modded the top mounting bracket, making a rose jointed one.

I'm thinking my only option now if for a front mount. So does anyone have any pics of a front mount on an xe?

Cheers for all your help with this guys!!

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James, yeah sorry i've not rung, just finished kitchen mods for today so i'm off for a bath! Yeah mine is the exact same manifold as yours, only i'm running dhlas. So what did you do with the lower bracket? specially made one?

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No probs mate i understand your busy and i'm about when ever if not then thats fine too.

Mine are also DHLA's too and yes i made a custome bottom bracket basically the same design as the standard one only with the wholes slotted (elongated) so i could move the alt up and down to a position were clearance was acceptable. i will add though that the alt is dropped over an inch from standard and i'm not 100% happy as it would have been better front mounted for clearance!

Found these bud....

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...i-P1010215.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/P1010204.jpg

Belongs to

nova---chris

that look pretty stright forwrd and easy todo fits snug aswell

/\ It is and it does

Aha! This engine resides in lees car does it not! Well spotted james, i'll drop lee a pm!

Glad to be of assistance!

nice

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Aha! This engine resides in lees car does it not! Well spotted james, i'll drop lee a pm!

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I brought the front mount conversion off Chris. I am currentley in the process of 'improving' it. I gather it worked fine etc though on his car which was track orientated.

More info soon.

John-How far away from the chassis leg is your bottom pully? Did you just have the outer V machined off, leaving the middle parts and the outer v, like so:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...Photo-0003.jpg

Yep that's exactly how i've done mine ad, i've heard some horror stories about folks who've actually machined through the rubber mount, (well the whole lot really) reducing it's width/strength.
It clears the chassis leg fine ad, prob 10mm or so to spare? Mind you i did have some engine mount alignment issues though, so you may find a little less.

Cool, i'll see how it goes.

Have you had a look on the front of the engine block, theres quite a few spare threads you could bolt an alternator bottom mount onto maybe using an adaptor plate or something?

Yeah, i have an old cav p/s bracket kicking around somewhere, i'll see if i can dig it out and have a play. I reckon the standard xe alternator will be no use though as it looks too big. What ampage is the standard xe alternator?

Depends on the car. Probably on a v-belt early engine 50-60amp. Later ones are likely to be 70+.
Std nova ones are about 55a

Cool ta mate, will have a nose round the scappies when i get 5!

If you make up some custom bracket jobbie, you could maybe look for a alt off a small car in the scrappy and make the bracket to fit it.
Any should be fine really, theres not going be massive load on a nova alternator.

Yeah, i reckon something jap will suffice, They normally have nice small aternators lol. Nothing a bit of bodging won't fix.

On that note John the isuzu td engine has a front mounted alternator with a good bracket on it not sure if it would fit an xe but i will look to see if it could be adapted as i think i have a spare somewere!

john did u find that the spi tank and mpi pump couldn keep fuel to the engine? is it some thing to do with the swirl pot on the spi tank being smaller than the sri or gsi tanks, so the mpi pump can empty the swirl pot quicker than it can fill it? its just im havin problems with the nova i put together!

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hmmm, osf wing has been resprayed me thinks!

Cheers ste, top pic!

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its the door not the wing if u look the wing matches the bonnet but not the door also the back wing dosent match the door

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Corsa kid, if i had your manifold, they'd clear easily as per adams diagram.

James, yeah sorry i've not rung, just finished kitchen mods for today so i'm off for a bath! Yeah mine is the exact same manifold as yours, only i'm running dhlas. So what did you do with the lower bracket? specially made one?

Mark, i've spoken to chris over on jov, and he must have the same manifold as corsakid, as he only modded the top mounting bracket, making a rose jointed one.

I'm thinking my only option now if for a front mount. So does anyone have any pics of a front mount on an xe?

Cheers for all your help with this guys!!

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i have twin dellorto 48's on mine with a 7 degree inlet using all standard xe mounts my alternator is tight i had to make the tensioner bracket longer by about an inch or so but it clears easily now obviously with a longer belt 950mm i think.

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john did u find that the spi tank and mpi pump couldn keep fuel to the engine? is it some thing to do with the swirl pot on the spi tank being smaller than the sri or gsi tanks, so the mpi pump can empty the swirl pot quicker than it can fill it? its just im havin problems with the nova i put together!

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Ive got a spi tank on mine, its fine. Even round castle combe and donninton

is there a difference in the tanks then? in runnin a sri engine. mk3 astra mulitpoint pump and the pump makes a whineing noise as tho its not getting enough fuel? any ideal?

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john did u find that the spi tank and mpi pump couldn keep fuel to the engine? is it some thing to do with the swirl pot on the spi tank being smaller than the sri or gsi tanks, so the mpi pump can empty the swirl pot quicker than it can fill it? its just im havin problems with the nova i put together!

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Hi mate, the problem was with the pump i used, not the tank. It was a vectra v6 one, and it fitted poorly.

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i have twin dellorto 48's on mine with a 7 degree inlet using all standard xe mounts my alternator is tight i had to make the tensioner bracket longer by about an inch or so but it clears easily now obviously with a longer belt 950mm i think.

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Your inlet exactly the same as mine?

And so, the end is near?

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...20pics/002.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...20pics/003.jpg

Whats the plan then?

Dude its a sad day...

"Another one bite the dust"

You not getting rid????????

Hopefully making way for the sport rebuild?