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alex, you seem to have cornered the market in those topics already....
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158414
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158335
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157600
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157686
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157369
steak & kidney pudding.
Shepherds Pie
Rain and Wind
2 Sh1ts and 6pisses
The 45mins break is a new law ( well 2yrs old now I think maybe a little longer as it use to be totally different to how it is now ) not totally sure on the in and outs of it just know they must of had a 45min break with in so many hours of driving then if they have been driving for so many more hours after that break they have to have another one but they are also able to have a 15min break then a 30min break as long as it's all done with in a certain amount of time of driving - Also the leaving the cab actually did come from a driver - Ok they dont have to totally leave the cab but they can't be sat in the drivers seat they have to sit in the passanger seat , be in on there bed or leave the cab thats what he told me and lots of other drivers at are place have said this to - Also if we are court doing a delivery with the drivers Tacho on break then he is breaking the law as he aint having a real break because it's still classed as workingQuote:
Originally Posted by mowgli
Either way theses bloody laws they keep bringing in and changing are bloody stupid imo
/\ i got my licence in 1996 & the rules were the same then... as for the drivers seat thing....bull poo. have a look at a ups van... one seat. as long as the engine is turned off & the driver is not working & the tacho is set on rest, then he can do what he likes where he likes. and to be honest, if it is cold & he is in a day cab wagon, he can legally keep the engine running to keep him warm
We dont use UPS vans we use 7.5 ton wagons upwards which are all 2/3 seaters sometimes hiring in vans over xmas when orders for beer gets higher - So yet again do UPS have different rules from everyone else and is this to stop there drivers becoming fat *******s sitting in cafes while on there brekas ? lol
Also think you will find the law has changed lots since 1996 mate maybe you need to go check it out as from memory of what the drivers have said they use to be able to have 30min break first then the 15min break to make it upto the 45mins break but now it's the other way round and they can only have 15mins first then the 30mins break to make it upto 45mins break
We have agency drivers coming in loads who still think they can do it the old way until we have to tell them it's the other way with there breaks
you have to have the big break at 4.5 hrs, i am a transport manager. the major rules changes came about from the european driving hours directives...
and our wagons have digi tachos, & at 4.5 hrs, you have to stop for the required period, or the tacho tells you about it.
i had to go thru it earlier in the year with a (now ex) employee who had been driving to the old uk driving rules for 25 years cos he first got a driving job on milk tankers & hadn't bothered to find out....
it is a personal gripe of mine that the first driver cpc training day isn't actually about tacho hours, and isn't covered in the driving test
I've been driving hgv for 11 years, I don't know how to fill in an old style chart and I don't have a digi card lol
anyone fancy a debate on operators liecence? My truck don't have one but I'm still legal lol
some highways maintenance vehicles are a form of heavy plant....
gritters & road sweepers are not exactly delivering goods to a specific address.
discussion over.