PDA

View Full Version : My PVS Hell ... Featuring the 4x4 of Fail, and the AA of N00b



Lee
09-06-08, 08:26 PM
Ive seen the breakdown thread, and TBH, none of you feckers know your born.

Trouble started at Chorley services on the M6 when, after nicely pootling along in a Banzaiunderqueer convoy (which doesnt happen often :)), just after waving christian off who decided to go via Oxford due to him living in Swindon, Jenny (Chris's madam) decides she needs to squeeze a drop.

Fail clock. 6.30 PM

Everyones back in the cars, both the diesels fire up, but the fronty decides it no longer wants to be a tow car and starts firing on 1 cylinder (two if I was lucky). Finally its firing on none and just turning over.

Dizzy cap off. Rotor arm found to be covered in crapness. Result, we'll be away again soon!

No

Ok, so check the coil lead. Dar pulls it off and it disintegrates in his hand. Surely this must be why we have no action. Dar expertly butchers one of me plug leads from the nova to link the coil back up with the dizzy. Check for spark at plugs. Yes, we have spark, but still no va-va-voom.

Ok, so we have spark, do we have fuel? Press the nipple of death on the very hot injection rail right above the inlet lol. The dribble that arrived was dissappointing to say the least. SO, problem found, no fuel.

So we have two possibilities. Electronic Fail, or Pump Fail. We check all fuses, the relays are clicking nicely, so must be the pump.

Transit Deja Vue starts to set in

Not to worry. Ill just steal the pump off the nove. Easy peasy.

NO. Internal pump, wedged right up on top of the tank behind the rear diff, out of reach, and no access panel. At this point, we realise we are beaten, and I wonder to myself if I would sacrifice any of my machismo if I had a little cry.

But not to worry. Dar has an AA card, and Im good at being Gay, so I can pretend to be him :) We make the phone call, and an AA man is pulling up LITERALLY just as we end the call.

IMPRESSIVE!

AA man is impressed with the bodges we have amassed up to this point, and agrees the pump is fubarred, but theres still hope as he offers to beat the sh1t out of the tank with an Ernie style hammer to try to coax it into action.

Nothing.

Final proof is attained that its the pump when the car is started on Eazystart but again fails to kick the old girl into action.

It was at this point I regretted buying a Frontera. Please see the end of the thread for when I changed my mind back :)

Anyway, unfortunately, this is when the REAL trouble starts

Fail clock: 9.00PM

Unfortunately, Dar doesnt have relay, only Roadside. It will cost him £170 to upgade to get me home. I agree to pay him back for the upgrade, as by this point, I am getting tired and want my bed. Also, Dar and Chris needed to get a move on to get home at a reasonable hour. I Aquire Dars credit card for ID, his AA card and his Phone. I become the home office's worst nightmare as I sit in the car reciting his postcode and date of birth in his head, and practice my gloucester accent lol

Chris and Dar leave us, after much back slapping and thankyous from myself (i am endebted to you again mate, id still be there if it werent for you, and Chris for the stirling fault finding efforts)

I am expecting the lorry at half past 11. Not too bad considering, so Hay and me settle in for a snooze while we wait.


Fail clock 11.45pm

Phone call. Some dappy bloke tells me the lorry I was expecting isnt coming, and instead another lorry wll be with me by midnight for the car, and another by 12.20 for the trailer.

I tell him there is no way on earth im leaving the car on its own for 20 minutes. I then ask why the truck that is towing the trailer cant take the Fronty as well. I forget his response, but it wasnt convincing!


Fail clock 1.00am

Phone rings again. Its a driver telling me he will be there in half an hour to pick up the fronty and the trailer. I tell him I was told different. He tells me he's not surprised!

Fail clock 1.30am

Driver arrives, loads Fronty, hitches up trailer, and we're finally away. The guy was a legend (as were MOST of the forthcoming drivers in this tale) but informs me that he's not got enough hours left to make Yate, and then get back to where he needs to end his shift. The furthest he can take us is Chievely services (J13 M4) and then drop us off for another guy to take up the recovery.

NOW i know why its called RELAY lol

Fail Clock 3.30am

We pull into Chievely services, just in time to see another AA truck pulling out of the truck park in front of us. Our guy flashes every light he had in his ****nal at him, but the other guy is blatantly making a break for it and roars off into the distance.

Our guy makes a phone call and finds out that guy was going to BRISTOL but apparenty, doesnt have enough driving time left either. Our driver, on the other hand, thinks he's a lazy fecker!

Phone call. Next lorry wont be with us for 1 3/4 hours.

Fail clock 4.45am ... now getting light

This one actually turns up on time. As he's loading up the Fronty, he tells me running dangerously low on driving hours. (more deja vous) but he's confident were going to make it to Yate ok.

Once on the move, myself and Hayles pass out.

Fail Clock 6.00am

Open our eyes, and we're pulling into another services. More to the point, a services I dont recognise as being an M4 services.

Alarm bells ringing.

Apparently, according to Driver number 2, he didnt have time to drive into yate to drop us, and then get back out onto the motorway in time to make it within his measly driving hours. He's dropped us at FECKING Gordano FECKING services on the M FECKING 5 ! About half an hour PAST our final destination.

Much anger building up. Tight chest, stress, more anger, but for some reason, dont go completely mental or have massive heart failiure.

Phone call. Next truck.......


Fail clock 7.30 Am

Man turns up in smaller yellow lorry this time, which was going to make a nice change from the yellow ones.

He looks at the car, then the trailer, and then tells me he cant take us because he would be over weight. Clever AA. Ive only been under their wing for what felt like a week so far!

At this point I am indifferent to the stupidity of the AA because I had been up since 7am sunday morning, and it was now over the 24 hour mark of next to no zeds. I ask him when the next truck will arrive, so he makes a call, but informs me it will take ages for the call to make it through the system.

I climb back into the car, only to see another AA truck (one of the big ones) loading up a poxy Renault Scenic.

More alarm bells.

AA man number 4 pops over to ask whats up. I explain the stupidity of the situation, but he informs me he's one of these AA men whos not allowed to tow anything. Hes one of the useless ones.

Fail clock 9.30 ish am (sorry, getting a bit blurry by now)

AA man Number 5 arrives, and luckily, he's actually got enough hours to get us home AAAANNNDDD he's allowed to tow.

I put it down to lucky fluke.

Fail Clock 10.30 am

Arrive at Barn.




Id like to add that all the AA men were top lads (apart from Number 2 who relayed us AWAY from our final destination) lol. ANd all of them shared my pain, and were very surprised I wasnt attempting to rip their heads off and poo in their necks.



But when all is said and done, the fronty broke.

Took me 2 hours to drop the tank, remove the internal pump and replace with a piece of pipe, and then splice an external pump onto the line. Jumped in and drove it home to Newbury.

So that was when i stopped regretting I bought the Frontera :)

SRimon
09-06-08, 08:33 PM
Jesus Lee...

I thought I was bad getting back at about 12!

Harsh times.

John
09-06-08, 08:34 PM
absolutely gutted for you cheif.

Paul
09-06-08, 08:34 PM
Hmm I thought mine was a bad journey home, would not of been a happy bunny myself. lol

Still atleast its fixed and you got both home and didnt have to leave anything anywhere....

Mike
09-06-08, 08:35 PM
Arnt you glad you bought Vauxhall Lee lol lol Hell, you know full well what i would have been saying!!

Madness, pure madness that is!!

Andy
09-06-08, 08:37 PM
That is an epic tale! jesus man i relly feel for you.What a useless set of ****3rs.I wouldnt have payed in washers for that sort of rubbish service!

mowgli
09-06-08, 08:39 PM
Have you thought of a career in country & western music? cos I now feel depressed....
you have my sympathy..I had my omega strip its cambelt 30seconds after sitting for 2 weeks in heathrow long stay. me, wife, three toddlers & jetlag sitting on the kerb waiting for the very nice man to drive in from timbuktu..

But I am guessing that you will now embark on a program of swapping bits to make the frontisaurus more reliable

Ste L
09-06-08, 08:41 PM
SH!T....
i feel for you!!

for all that fcuking about, they should refund you the money you had to pay for the upgrade due tot he **** about's they've done

Mike
09-06-08, 08:41 PM
Hell, i would have ended up putting the Fronty towbar onto the Nova and towing an emty trailer home with a non road lega Nova!

Adam
09-06-08, 08:41 PM
So you got back to your barn at 10.30am this morning?
jesus christ, i think you win the longest breakdown competition.

Stuart
09-06-08, 08:44 PM
its called Karma.... you buy a gay "off roader" and Lord Automotive punishes you :D

big gra
09-06-08, 08:44 PM
haha that made me chuckle. have had that problem before, but its not nice when your broken down in a 7 1/2 tonne wagon, seeing a recovery truck pull up that looks like it would struggle with a micra, he still put it on, waaayy overhang at the back, hahaha!! :)

novait
09-06-08, 08:46 PM
sorry to hear about ur trip lee...good to hear you got home safe....

just vaux trev
09-06-08, 08:51 PM
did you have the tools to drop the tank and splice in the external off the nova with you ?

Lee
09-06-08, 08:54 PM
Nope, I had feck all toolage. I may have embarked on the mod if i did have, but still, that that point your tired and the prospect of being ferried home is quite attractive.

Its that hidsight thing again.

Banzaiundersteer has made a pact that from now forth we shalt recover ourselves lol

Jeff16v
09-06-08, 08:58 PM
Jeeeeeeeeeeeesusssssssssssss. major fail. and it cost you £170.

bad luck dude. turns out the fronty was just an oversized nova, perhaps it was a transit before being recylcedlol

did you perfect the dar gayness since you had all this time on your hands?

Lee
09-06-08, 09:01 PM
Yep lol. I know his address better than mine now.

Dar
09-06-08, 09:04 PM
We will be trying to get a refund. Then switching to the RAC.

I must admit that when my phone & cards weren't posted this morning. I though 'that bugger has fallen asleep!' I would have never guessed that you hadn't made it back!

Dave.
09-06-08, 09:05 PM
jeesus lee.. the one person who organises everything, makes it a crackin weekend gets screwed over more times than the red light district girls! sorry to hear bud :thumb:

chris gsi
09-06-08, 09:07 PM
good to know she is alive again, i did say to jen on the way home i would have took the nova of the trailer and set fire to the frontera and drove the nova home.

(just looking at some brake down cover now)

Rickyb
09-06-08, 09:10 PM
what a story :thumb:

Ash
09-06-08, 09:26 PM
Feck me mate! What a rough time. RJ let me know this morning, proper headache this breaking down lark. I'm not going to make a habbit of it, and I don't think you should too.

As Dar has already said tho, should of gone to RAC. Turns out my recovery driver is a good mate of Ernie as well - small world. (Ernie, if your reading this the driver was Daz with the 'pink' rx7)

Lee
09-06-08, 09:29 PM
jeesus lee.. the one person who organises everything, makes it a crackin weekend gets screwed over more times than the red light district girls! sorry to hear bud :thumb:

Not the one person at all, Dans done more legwork for this show than me :thumb: Thanks all the same though :D

Steve
09-06-08, 09:48 PM
Jesus that story was probably as painful for me to read as it was for you to go through! Can't believe how much fannying about you lot had to put up with.

At least you made the show and you werne't defeated. I was worried I wasnt going to make pv last year, the a-reg had been running fine for the whole year, then, the day before the show it didnt want to fire up! About five mins before we were due to leave it fired up!

mikey14sr
09-06-08, 09:57 PM
Unfortunately once you take the AA's "relay" rubbish out of the equation, the blame for the first driver to turn up not being able to take you all the way to the barn can be landed on the doorstep of those muppets in the european parliament. It's because of those fools that recovery drivers now have to stick to the E.U. drivers hours regs, whereas previously they would quite happily have taken you straight up to the top of scotland from the middle of london, with nothing more than a fuel stop along the way! Except in the case of the AA that is, who have allways 'been responsible' and driven to the rules, hence the fact it's called relay.
Afaik the RAC farm out the long distance/heavier recovery to the other recovery specialists, who before the new rulings would have gone the extra 250 miles if needed.

Though the moral of the whole debacle is, wheather you own a '70's kadett, or a brand new insignia, if you're going on a long trip, take your bloomin tools with you.

chimp007_uk
09-06-08, 10:08 PM
thtas some harsh luck right there... organise a cracking weekend and then get shat on, and have it thrown in your face.

Hats off to you for staying calm! :)

Jim
09-06-08, 10:12 PM
Do the AA still advertise themselves as the 4th emergency service? A refund and swith to the RAC is definitely needed.

shy witness
09-06-08, 10:30 PM
thats shocking mate..

a real disaster.

i'm sure u were glad to get to yer bed.

it wouldnt give me much cinfidence in the AA to be honest.

a wild tale

Alex.
09-06-08, 10:33 PM
I was sat on the stairs at Jack's this morning my phone went off.

"Just got back. Epic tow car fail :("

I read it to Jack and he laughed and said, what time was that sent. I was like, 10:23 this morning! And I haven't had my phone off, so there was no chance that it got in late.

Truely gutted for you :o(

4by4byFAIL!

General Baxter
09-06-08, 10:34 PM
and heres us walking to the strip to watch dar blow up lol

Alex.
09-06-08, 10:39 PM
and heres us walking to the strip to watch dar blow up lol

I know!! lol

jimbob-mcgrew
09-06-08, 10:45 PM
fkinel, its one thing when something takes long, but back and forth hassles like that is the apsolute worst, that did not sound fun, am amazed you didnt blow a gasket and screw at one of those mateys. youll have better luck next year im sure, thats a hard one to beat.

Jack
09-06-08, 10:59 PM
I thought Alex meant PM, when she said AM, I nearly fell off my chair!

I had a car full of tools as well. If I'd known you were having a spot of bother I'd have turned round and pimped over to help - I've got full RAC recovery cover too so could have saved you a penny or two as well. Feck.

sh0rty
09-06-08, 10:59 PM
we were on our way driving back out shopping when Kev said you hadn't long got in :( gutted for you both.

Some sort of compensation has to be in order surely. The AA knowing you had the 4x4, and trailer, knowing where you had to get to - surely a guy with enough hours and vehicle should have been sent the first time. Even if that meant an hour or so wait longer on the first call out, than having almost 5 drivers in all?!!?

mowgli
09-06-08, 11:01 PM
[quote=Jim]Do the AA still advertise themselves as the 4th emergency service? quote]

Not since the coastguard & the mountain rescue people got upset they don't

lj
09-06-08, 11:12 PM
road trip!!!!

novacabrio
10-06-08, 12:35 AM
BAad luck mate, Christina had a similar experience on the way back from Billing in 2006 that took 12 hours for what should have been a 4 hour journey with 2 roadside guys trying to fix the car and 3 trucks later,

I'd ring and complain about the service and ask for the £170 back and say you won't be using that service again after the way you had been treated

I'll even make the call for you lol

ade
10-06-08, 12:59 AM
that sucks matey! Defo pump them for compensation and a refund.

Should have roped in the "PNG Tug o War crew" do get you home. Would have been a damn sight faster

lol

burgo
10-06-08, 01:53 AM
fooking hell lee, that is ubber gay service. if it was me i would head to the head office and rip someones head off

Philsutton
10-06-08, 08:55 AM
that was a epic fail lol

tom_beverley
10-06-08, 09:33 AM
Fecking hell Lee, what an unlucky story :(

As said I'd definately be asking for compensation for their total incompetance, I mean don't people communicate so that a driver is appointed which:

1. has enough driving hours to get you home
2. can tow both fronty and trailer

Its not much to ask is it?!

Really feel for you, after a long day in the baking sun I was knackered at midnight, never mind another ten and a half hours lol

Ernie
10-06-08, 09:35 AM
I know who you mean but didnt know that was his job lol.


Feck me mate! What a rough time. RJ let me know this morning, proper headache this breaking down lark. I'm not going to make a habbit of it, and I don't think you should too.

As Dar has already said tho, should of gone to RAC. Turns out my recovery driver is a good mate of Ernie as well - small world. (Ernie, if your reading this the driver was Daz with the 'pink' rx7)

Ernie
10-06-08, 09:38 AM
I didnt hear any thing about this untill yesterday.
You should off called me as could of come back up with the shogan with my veccy on my trailer then put your frontara onto my trailer then your trailer onto the back of the veccy.
I could of been home and back to you by 10pm as had no fails and a smooth trip home.
Glad you got it sorted fella.

Dod
10-06-08, 09:51 AM
WOW!!! Thats kinda **** enough, but i reckon i may be able to beat it.....

Billing 06, me and my Mate Carl are attending in his LET mk2 Cavalier Auto (he was paralised from the waist down a few years back). We started the 12 hr round drive at 4 in the after noon, blitzing from Donegal to Dublin to get the Ferry in 2.5hrs and landed an hour early so parked the car, switched it off and waited for the Ferry. So it landed and we got the go ahead to drive on.

Carl tried to start the car and low and behold it wouldnt. Sounded like the starter so I jumped out, took a ratchet and tried hitting the starter a number of times and nothing. I then tried to cross the starter but that didnt work either. Dilema, what to do, go ahead with a ****ed starter motor or turn back? Carl was sure we could get someone to help and get the car sorted so the nice Ferry men towed us on. Before we got out of the car we tried to start it one more time, and nothing.

So aboard the ferry, on route to a different country where we knew no one, we started making phone calls. Carl managed to get a hold of a lad called "Rabbit" from mk2cav.com who agreed to come and sort us as he was 2hrs away from Hollyhead if we paid fuel so yeah, we told him to come ahead. Aas the Ferry ported we went down to the Sick CDi and tried starting it again to no avail. Waited for all the other trucks and cars to pull off, tried starting it and nothing, pushed it to the end of the Ferry to wait for a truck to tow us to the car park, tried it again and nothing. Tied a rope from the truck to the car and it started!!! FFS!!!

So we phoned Rabbit, told him what'd happened but he insisted we stop with him on the way so he could diagnose the car. 30 mins in the drive towards him, he calls and says his Rads after ****ting itself and is steaming like fook knows what. SO we meet him, 2 sick Cavs in a truck stop at 1am in england somewhere, I dunno where...

Rabbit suggested we go to Tescos 45 mins up the road to get a few bottles of water for his car and we do, pull up, park upm, switch the car off, get out and ****!!! We switched the car off!!! Rabbit jumps out, pops the bonnet and tries to cross the starter and Vroom, away it goes!! It seems that we'd been trying the 2 wrong bolts and not getting the solinoid going as well. So, we got back to his car, filled it with water and whey hey, no problems, sorted. So he concluded that out car has a faulty ignition switch and says he'll bring one along the following day to Billing. We thanked him, and took off.

We've got AA directions printed off the AA website and they were useless, after getting lost a load of times and asking people directions we finially arrive at 6.30am, the sun is shining and the weathers warm. We set up the tent and collapse. Rabbit turns up later that day and fixes the car (top bloke mate, ****ing star!!). The next day we head home and as I'm navagating, i ask for the return directions, to which Carl replies, just read them backwards.......

GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

So we spend 3 hours getting lost after getting lots of odd directions from random people, we then decide to get a road atlas. Sweet, now, where are we....?? The petrol station attendant is looking odly at us, a Pakistani chap, looking very worried, so he comes back out to us and asks if we're ok. He then listens to our dilema, that we're lost, takes the atlas off us and marks where we are and which direction we go, and even gives us his pen to follow on the map. So we're away on. Get to the ferry, get on the ferry, get off the ferry and go home. I spent a day and a 1/2 in bed recovering. Needless to say, we didnt go last year!!! LOL

Jack
10-06-08, 10:28 AM
I jumped out, took a ratchet and tried hitting the starter a number of times
Dod Fix FTW lol

Welsh Dan
10-06-08, 10:38 AM
Towing hitches to be fitted to the rear of all banzaiundersteer trailers for next year? lol

ANDYRACER
10-06-08, 11:02 AM
The thing that puzzles me is the fact that you own vauxhalls and dont have breakdown cover! lol

Oh AA are crap, RAC everytime for me. :thumb:

Ernie
10-06-08, 01:47 PM
Mine is covered by my insurance to get me home.

Dod
10-06-08, 01:52 PM
The thing that puzzles me is the fact that you own vauxhalls and dont have breakdown cover! lol

Oh AA are crap, RAC everytime for me. :thumb:

And being a Jap Oil burner I bet it really is EVERYTIME!! lol

Nick
10-06-08, 02:27 PM
Fooking hell lee. Sounds like a right nightmare. Talk about a character building expirience !

craig green
10-06-08, 03:09 PM
We will be trying to get a refund. Then switching to the RAC.


Tbh I've had similar (well OK not quite as crazy) experiences with the RAC.

Jeez Lee. That was a sad story. :cry:

draper
10-06-08, 06:25 PM
britania rescue are the best recovery people ime

Ian
10-06-08, 06:48 PM
AA Always been ok for me, been recovered from Pod, chester, and from bruntingthorpe with ricks.
From pod we changed lorrys at j15a services on m1, lorry was waiting, they turned up at pod in 15 mins.

For ricks we waited about an hour and half in the pub, then took us all the way with a 40 min stop cos of his hours, which we used to get some tea in some derbyshire village

steveturbo
10-06-08, 08:38 PM
bloody hell mate just read the whole of that i would have lost it definately.

i had a frontera once never again it also broke down on more than one occasion whilst towing my rally car!!

Count Vaux Alot
10-06-08, 08:40 PM
I feel for you mate i suppose you just can't help bad luck and you have had more than your fair share!

CP
10-06-08, 09:01 PM
There is a moral to this story but I'm fooked if I know what it is!lol lol

Stuart
10-06-08, 09:04 PM
There is a moral to this story but I'm fooked if I know what it is!lol lol


Dont get a lift with Lee:thumb:

Clean 2.0 nova
10-06-08, 09:29 PM
Dont get a lift with Lee:thumb:

Or don't try to be someone your not!

They probably knew in reality so thought they would give you the run around!!