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Rexy
25-05-08, 09:22 AM
I'm planning the nova for after PV when i can actually take some time and do her properly and looking at rat look, euro etc.

Just came across this:

http://www.astraownersclub.com/4images/data/media/299/rat_27.jpg

and i seriously like it...

Before somebody moans and calls me gay my nova is not going in that direction at all but i wanted to know peoples views on "rat" as its becomming ever more popular.

I think most peoples views would be "it's a mess" etc, Is this strictly a dub thing and should stay with our german friends?

i've seen kayles Rat nova and kinda like that too, If anybody has ever been to a vw show there are some smart Rat style mk1 golfs mk2 golfs etc and they really do suit it well.

At the moment i'm looking into porsche wheels but the design 90's have been put on everything, Borbet A's, ronal Turbo's have been done loads as well.

Same as BBS splitties but they are just porn I've not even sprayed my car yet and i'm planning on re-doing it lol

:thumb:

John
25-05-08, 09:29 AM
Yes, i fecking love it! seen that astra on mk3oc, it ace!
A euro/rat hybrid U.K nova would rock! It's about time we saw some more opel/vaux european cars done overhere, they're really fresh and full of new ideas that prove you don't just have to have super clean paint and big wheels.
BBS or cookie cutters would look superb on any rat car imo.

Rexy
25-05-08, 09:33 AM
cookie cutters are ace :D

I can see my nova turning into a long ass project pmsl :D I cant go lower than 16" wheels tho so its proving a little difficult with choice of wheel atm :@ shame i didnt get the nova 12months ago instead just recently buying it Oh well lol.

Martin
25-05-08, 10:41 AM
doo it

Graeme
25-05-08, 10:48 AM
Just googled the rat look/ hoodride thing and think it works well on vauxhall's too plus like Kyall says spray cans is all you need for a repair not an expensive body shop bill!!!

Iain
25-05-08, 10:56 AM
I love rat look too. All the best ones I've seen have been VWs but I think that's just because they try it the most.

Think of how nice it'll be to own a car and not have to worry about dings and scratches when you leave it! lol

Rexy
25-05-08, 11:01 AM
Lmfbo, I dont anyways...

Dar
25-05-08, 11:02 AM
We have a place around here with loads of rat look cars in it.
The address is :-

Hooper and Son's Scrapyard
32 Long Road
Yate

If done well they can look 'ok' but manly look like really badly maintained cars. It's like the polar opposite to body kits.

Rexy
25-05-08, 11:10 AM
ha ha ha @ dar - Scrap yard parts are the way forward you big gay bear.

I dont want to go as extreme as the above car at all i'm thinking fully "functional" smooth which has pretty much already been done, low low low with some uber wide split rim 16's. Arches will obv be flared out to stop the ole scrubbage. The paint work will still be very tidy, in my opinion it would work better on a loon than a hatchy and nobodys really that ****d about loons :P

John
25-05-08, 11:18 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/Griggsey/ratmk5.jpg

New age rat! quite like it!

Lee
25-05-08, 11:21 AM
Cant say im a fan tbh, although I can appreciate a sh1tter that can go like poo off a stick :)

Rexy
25-05-08, 11:23 AM
that looks ace :D

John
25-05-08, 11:25 AM
I thinks that's what it's all about tbh, nice rims/tyres, sorted suspension and mechanicals, and then leave everyting else to chance.
I'd love to find a suitable donor to do this on!

lj
25-05-08, 11:34 AM
i've got a cavy that i'm thinking about doing..... sand it and leave it
but what do do with bumpers? or just sand half of it?


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/leezarins/DSC00032.jpg

Rexy
25-05-08, 11:36 AM
paint stripped works better, spray some salt water on the bare metal jobs a good un ;)

Iain
25-05-08, 11:39 AM
Problem with that is it sometimes looks like you've put lots of effort in to MAKING it ratlook, and it doesn't look naturally crap. If you get me.

Rexy
25-05-08, 11:40 AM
good point, scrap yard parts then lol

mayhem
25-05-08, 11:43 AM
nova rat/old school is best on 13 inch

i love this one

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8758/sinttulo5hk5.jpg

Rexy
25-05-08, 11:47 AM
the black C reg is awesome as well... cant find a pic of that tho.

CP
25-05-08, 11:48 AM
I like it -makes a change from the usual styling ideas which have for the most part been done to death. Lets face it Novas have a chav reputation and this kind of takes that fact to its logical conclusion.

IMO if you are going to do it dont just part do it though.

Think you might have to shave your head, get fully tattoo'd up and get a prison record from your new career which will be drug dealinglol lol

Rexy
25-05-08, 11:51 AM
lmfbo, nahhh your ok CP i'll just stick with my skater style baggys etc ta pmsl.

big gra
25-05-08, 11:51 AM
nova rat/old school is best on 13 inch

i love this one

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8758/sinttulo5hk5.jpg

that nova is amazing.

i love the rat look, cars that look like they have been rescued from a scrapyard, but have the power to annialate most cars that try to race it thinking its a standard ****er, stealth :D .

Ash
25-05-08, 12:14 PM
Mooneyes FTW!

Count Vaux Alot
25-05-08, 12:33 PM
I love the rat look and my next one will be pointed even more towards euro/rat that the saloon is now, IMO the mk1's suit rat much better than the mk2's and the look is only successful when applied to certain cars thats why the early golfs look good.

I say do it but think carfully about what mods you choose (obviously) as subtley is the key!

Adam
25-05-08, 12:36 PM
I completely HATE the look

Stupidest thing out IMO

Count Vaux Alot
25-05-08, 12:40 PM
I completely HATE the look

Stupidest thing out IMO

lol lol lol

TIDGE
25-05-08, 12:42 PM
the rat and euro look only works if done very well and dont go putting any old crap on it like that astra needs to lose the yellow lights and lose the fog lamps and putting a bit of salt water to make the rust darker

paul james
25-05-08, 12:43 PM
I think its totally stupid to take a good car and wreck the paintwork on it. If you really want this 'rat look' start off with a car thats already rusty and a mess, it'll look more realistic that way and you won't be destroying its value.

Rexy
25-05-08, 12:46 PM
lol, I've found the wheels i want 8x16 :D et 35 as well Uber uber flared arches lol :D Just need to suss out the rest of the car now :D

sr_boi
25-05-08, 12:47 PM
how could you get a nova that low?

Rexy
25-05-08, 12:52 PM
it will be riding on bump stops mate, no springs lol.

Count Vaux Alot
25-05-08, 01:04 PM
/\ agreed

Any pics??

TIDGE
25-05-08, 01:04 PM
8x16 stretch tyres:cool:

Rexy
25-05-08, 01:15 PM
when i buy them, i'll put the pics up i should be able to stretch 195's onto 8" rims without too much problem lol.

Adam
25-05-08, 01:17 PM
how could you get a nova that low?
Break your suspension :thumb:

Count Vaux Alot
25-05-08, 01:17 PM
195's will be fine, what do the wheels look like ie style etc

Rexy
25-05-08, 01:20 PM
There 5 spoke design with a very deep dish, kinda like brock B1's but a deeper dish.

Count Vaux Alot
25-05-08, 01:20 PM
cool

Dar
25-05-08, 04:02 PM
Cant say im a fan tbh, although I can appreciate a sh1tter that can go like poo off a stick :)
Of course you can.....you own one!:p

Lee
25-05-08, 04:04 PM
Of course you can.....you own one!:p

You own TWO :p

Dar
25-05-08, 04:08 PM
lol Only two? .... Oh yeah the others arn't that fast:(

fearless
25-05-08, 04:08 PM
Like some people have already said - some look good, some bad !!!


If done right - can look cool

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/fearlessmotorsport/458051254_08857aa976_b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/fearlessmotorsport/4909083856c71818bbfoss4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/fearlessmotorsport/4908922442aad15a315oln2.jpg



Dave

Rexy
25-05-08, 04:19 PM
i doubt you could get away driving it like that in the UK without somebody moaning lol.

Like you said tho dave as crazy as it may seem Done well it certainly works... :D

Jack
25-05-08, 04:44 PM
the black C reg is awesome as well... cant find a pic of that tho.
I have a pic of a looooww C reg nova, black, but not sure if its the one you're after as its not exactly rat...


it will be riding on bump stops mate, no springs lol.
Please don't give sri_boiiii ideas lol

FTR, I think rat look is crap tbh. Works on some old dubs, but anything else just looks like you've left it out to rust

conad
25-05-08, 04:49 PM
i just love the look of this one, the whole beer barrel thing looks so good!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/zzzz.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/zz.jpg

lj
25-05-08, 05:05 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/leezarins/DSC00032.jpg

lj
25-05-08, 05:05 PM
how do i rat this.....

TIDGE
25-05-08, 05:46 PM
conad is that crazy kyall's

fearless that caddy is mint not sure about the bonnet less golf tho

kevw
25-05-08, 07:29 PM
I'm not into this but would be interested to see something that's been stripped to bare metal, poured with some water (for surface rust) then laquered. Think the VW on page 1 has the bonnet like that.

I'm not into the whole tatty type look...

conad
25-05-08, 07:37 PM
conad is that crazy kyall's

fearless that caddy is mint not sure about the bonnet less golf tho

yeah it is, met him at a darknights meet, love his car!

Mike
25-05-08, 07:37 PM
Worst thing since Ghonnerhea IMO

Lee
25-05-08, 07:38 PM
I'm not into the whole tatty type look...

We'll see about that wont we lol

bola
25-05-08, 07:44 PM
I dont see the point in the look either, totally pointless. Theres plenty of rusty novas about already so shouldnt take you long to create one! I went to modified nationals today & saw the smoothed out, cream coloured corsa van with an xe in it feature in fast car a while back. I used to love it but now he has a rusty bonnet on a show car i mean wtf, why make a nice car sh!t?

Iain
25-05-08, 07:47 PM
I see that smoothed Corsa every Sunday at my local cruise/meet. :cool:

NatJK
25-05-08, 07:51 PM
I don't get it, whats the point?? Lolcan anyone explain??? Make ya car rusty? and lower it???
Maybe i've completely missed the wholepoint?!? :confused:

bola
25-05-08, 07:52 PM
I don't get it, whats the point?? Lolcan anyone explain??? Make ya car rusty? and lower it???
Maybe i've completely missed the wholepoint?!? :confused:
You haven't....

NatJK
25-05-08, 07:55 PM
Lol, completly pointless then. Looks just a little bit silly IMO.

Jack
25-05-08, 08:09 PM
Most Novas come Rat as standard lol

Rexy
25-05-08, 08:22 PM
lol rat ftw :)

its like bodykits lol exactly the same how can people cover their cars in fibreglass kits and filler and say they look nice.

Nobby
25-05-08, 08:57 PM
I think my nova gets the ''rat look saying''


http://i26.tinypic.com/1zlw20o.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/htij5d.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/259jpfk.jpg

suprised the owner of a 3.0 v6 clio the other day when he pulled up next to me after i kept with him no problems lol

lj
25-05-08, 08:59 PM
sweet ride

NatJK
25-05-08, 09:45 PM
What are the barrels all about? :s

novacabrio
25-05-08, 09:58 PM
spotted this around my way, not sure if i'd class it as rat or just euro/international pmsl lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/novacabrio/IMAGE_00205.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/novacabrio/IMAGE_00204.jpg

mowgli
25-05-08, 10:00 PM
http://www.astraownersclub.com/4images/data/media/299/rat_27.jpg

Well, personally, I love the CRASH TEST DUMMY look,but I just don't understand the roof rack type thing

novacabrio
25-05-08, 10:02 PM
Has no one got a pric of the matt black saloon thats beena around a couple years now?

Novasport
25-05-08, 10:10 PM
spotted this around my way, not sure if i'd class it as rat or just euro/international pmsl lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/novacabrio/IMAGE_00205.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/novacabrio/IMAGE_00204.jpg

Love the padlock on the doorlol

TIDGE
25-05-08, 10:13 PM
I dont see the point in the look either, totally pointless. Theres plenty of rusty novas about already so shouldnt take you long to create one! I went to modified nationals today & saw the smoothed out, cream coloured corsa van with an xe in it feature in fast car a while back. I used to love it but now he has a rusty bonnet on a show car i mean wtf, why make a nice car sh!t?
its jimmy's of corsasport i like it the banded steelies look:cool:
well i think so anyway

walshc
26-05-08, 12:31 AM
I like rat look, but only NATURAL rat look, the proper way. Rat look is all about having a perfectly good chassis/engine/running gear etc and then just leaving the body to rot/get bashed. It came from the rat rod scene in america, where poor guys into hot rods couldnt afford to spunk loads of money on the shells like the richer kids, so left them and created a whole new style
Things like that mk5 golf just look sh*t, its trying to be something its not

This is a true rat :cool:
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6822/310hoodride8odlg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Also, alot of people get confused with the style, they think if the cars been sprayed matte black (or other matte colour) then its "rat look", well it isnt lol its just a matte black car. Im spraying mine matte black with a nato green roof and nato green wheels this week, i wonder how many people will call it a rat look nova? :roll: lol

Novaboyleon
26-05-08, 01:26 AM
its like the beginning of tokyo drift i think with the daddys boy in the viper and the old skool dude in his car with big power and poo bodywork

big gra
26-05-08, 01:49 AM
its like the beginning of tokyo drift i think with the daddys boy in the viper and the old skool dude in his car with big power and poo bodywork

yea, thats the best part of the film. love american cars, couldent decide weather it was a monte carlo or an oldsmobile. was nice though, nothing compared to a 69 charger like in the first film, pure porn.

Count Vaux Alot
26-05-08, 10:17 AM
Im spraying mine matte black with a nato green roof and nato green wheels this week

Can't wait to see that....nato's a whole different style and i love that too, grt some pics asap! :thumb:
I also agree with the confusion you talk about and the actual definition of rat

Dar
26-05-08, 10:24 AM
I also agree with the confusion you talk about and the actual definition of rat
What confusion?
Isn't this the 'Rat' look:D
http://www.kemah.net/sights/images/rats.jpg

Serious now.
My dads car 'was' a proper rat look car then. It had a few 'incidents' around Combe and he had repaired it, so that it was sound but it wasn't tidyed up. It even featured in Fast Ford (I think) with the caption 'We liked the look of this ratty Escort'lol

Although I told him that it looked like a shed and he should tidy it up. So hes resprayed it. Looks very nice now.

Count Vaux Alot
26-05-08, 10:32 AM
lollollollol yes that is rat at its finest lollollollol

Jack
26-05-08, 10:58 AM
i wonder how many people will call it a rat look nova? :roll: lol
Depends how many dents and how much rust it has lol


was nice though, nothing compared to a 69 charger like in the first film, pure porn.
Charger has nothing on the roadrunner at the end of Tokyo Drift though :D

Nick
26-05-08, 11:15 AM
It's a funny thing.

I'd personally say that it's pretty lame to Purposly create a RAT looking car. There's no point in it, and it completely defies the original concept.

I'm up for seeing battered cars that have had all their focus and attention put onto the engine, drivetrain, suspension e.t.c and GENUINLY not care about the exterior.

But i get the impression that 99% of the VW scene give a VERY BIG care about how cool it looks.

mowgli
26-05-08, 11:57 AM
its funny really, but for years the vw's were all pretty colours on the outside & rotten as a pear underneath.
these days they spend £0000's to rebuild them then let the surface rot away.



I get the feeling that the mk5 golf was done for a joke for some sort of car club marathon rally.... all they did was fit a burnt out bonnet & grille & the comedy roof rack

mowgli
26-05-08, 12:02 PM
http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/tmb/8115_image.jpg
http://www.trulynolen.com/Franchise/Images/fanchise_car.jpg
I saw some of these in miami a few years back. is this the vw rat look????? note the sticky up ears at the top of the windscreen

http://shop.trulynolen.com/truly/assets/product_images/pic00138.jpg

Rexy
26-05-08, 12:29 PM
thats more "mouse" than "rat" lmfbo.

Smurf-Xx
26-05-08, 01:16 PM
walshc your copying my idea!! but my wheels not green!

walshc
26-05-08, 03:25 PM
Can't wait to see that....nato's a whole different style and i love that too, grt some pics asap! :thumb:
I also agree with the confusion you talk about and the actual definition of rat

Yeah i will do, soon as its finished :cool:



Depends how many dents and how much rust it has lol


Its a nova, it has lots lol


walshc your copying my idea!! but my wheels not green!

Am i? :confused:
In that case youre copying the first person who sprayed their car matte black :p lol
Plus mines a saloon, so there :p :D

Smurf-Xx
26-05-08, 04:09 PM
No they will look good when finished walshc

walshc
26-05-08, 05:01 PM
No they will look good when finished walshc

Hope so :tumble: lol it looks good in my head so....

How did you spray yours? rattle cans?

Ernie
27-05-08, 09:22 AM
Ive just got back from rtts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/RTTS%2008/RTTS08025.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/RTTS%2008/RTTS08118.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/RTTS%2008/RTTS08019.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/RTTS%2008/RTTS08022.jpg
loads of them there.

Rexy
27-05-08, 11:06 AM
ernie... Can you post me links to all the pics please mate?

Many thanks

Ernie
27-05-08, 11:10 AM
i will see what i can do fella as they are on my pc at the mo

Ernie
27-05-08, 11:16 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/RTTS%2008/RTTS08021.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/RTTS%2008/RTTS08026.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/RTTS%2008/RTTS08034.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/RTTS%2008/RTTS08072.jpg

Rexy
27-05-08, 11:22 AM
cheers matey, zip um and mail if its easier :P

Ernie
27-05-08, 11:24 AM
would do but aint got a clue what im doing on here lol.

Ernie
27-05-08, 11:33 AM
you have mail lol.

Smurf-Xx
27-05-08, 11:36 AM
How did you spray yours? rattle cans?

Bought the car as it is last week but yeah it had been done with rattle cans and its cr*p! Get it done properly!!

Riggy
27-05-08, 11:44 AM
im not into it neither , think it looks **** , but thats my opinion :thumb:

paul james
27-05-08, 11:48 AM
Its criminal letting a classic VW camper rot just to look cool, which it doesn't anyway. What a waste

Rexy
27-05-08, 12:27 PM
how was wales riggy?

craig green
27-05-08, 02:36 PM
IMO, rat look is up to anyone that feels the need, however I wont give anyone the satisfaction of standing around some rusty heap at a show, trying to get a peep at what is pretty common down at our local breakers yard.

Its such a shame that people are deliberately ruining sought after & valuable examples of rare cars to satisfy a passing trend.

[edit] only last week I saw a bare metal sanded VW camper. I was miffed by it then it struck me.... future rat! (FFS)

Some cars suit it, that mk3 Astra certainly doesnt though its no loss to the vehicle world if it rusted beyond repair.

Quite what the fascination is with beer kegs & shopper bikes on roof racks is comical. Each to their own but I can't help feel the VW boys are just laughing at everyone copying & striving to make their cars look crap!

Count Vaux Alot
27-05-08, 10:09 PM
I like those duds very cool, i would agree that you shouldn't ruin a good car but if its a ****$er to start with then who cares....

DaveyLC
27-05-08, 11:11 PM
Personally I think it looks bloody stupid.. Just makes you look like some kind of pikey who let their car go to ****.

Rexy
27-05-08, 11:14 PM
i'm begginning to think it is certainly a VW thing lol and should stay withing the VW circles lol.

dhdev (Oli)
27-05-08, 11:30 PM
Rat look just looks gash. IMO.

ade
27-05-08, 11:53 PM
I'm torn - most movas have an element of ratiness in them (rear arches etc) but the whole keg on your roof cant be good for the fuel consumption and surely people will be tempted to "add" to it - or try and nick stuff off it.

Just tempts fate if you ask me...

done well (like that hoodless mk1 golf) can look weird but cool...others like the new golf look gash

ben doodar
28-05-08, 12:31 AM
rat look is defo a vw things, some kid round my way has painted his saxo a nasty shade of mat brown drew some gay things on it with tipex and calls it rat look. DICK!!!
looks cool as fook in my opinion when its been done properly to a old vw.
id swap my nova for that mk1 golf with no bonnet!
cant help thinkin of some old american hill billy red neck with a straw hat, chewing a piece of grass, driving down a dusty farm yard track, with his some how gorgeous daughter lol
:tumble:
i do think the "euro look" works on other cars though

walshc
28-05-08, 12:55 AM
Bought the car as it is last week but yeah it had been done with rattle cans and its cr*p! Get it done properly!!

It looks ok in the pics :cool:
Ive allready orderd the rattle cans lol so i`ll see what it looks like....

Andy
28-05-08, 01:02 AM
its good when they in dog **** brown colour or summat but nitro morsing panels or dipping them in sea water to speed up rust is silly.As for beer kegs on the roof wtf is that all about!!.I have to point out though that it is a refreshing change from surf board spoilers done to death lexus all ave em innit lights and the like on "barry cars"

CoolTiger
28-05-08, 02:33 AM
i just love the look of this one, the whole beer barrel thing looks so good!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/zzzz.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/zz.jpg

that now looks like.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/CrAzY_kAyLL/SP_A0128.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/CrAzY_kAyLL/SP_A0129.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/CrAzY_kAyLL/SP_A0127.jpg

:(

Rexy
28-05-08, 10:13 AM
they could of used paint stripper... would of added to the rat look.

the mentality of some people is just stupid.

scottydogg38
31-05-08, 10:57 PM
lol this is an ace thread

conad
01-06-08, 06:37 PM
that now looks like.....



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/CrAzY_kAyLL/SP_A0127.jpg

:(


oh no, does he know who did it? i really liked that car.

Dar
01-06-08, 06:54 PM
I hope thats emulsion and will come off easily. On a side note that car now reminds me of Pepe Le Peu.
http://blog.sanriotown.com/shadowcat13:kuririnmail.com/files/2008/01/windowslivewriterpinked-ee26pepe.gif

Ernie
01-06-08, 09:32 PM
You bad bugger Dar...... But still funny lol. (im on about Dar. Not what they did to the car.)

NatJK
08-06-08, 05:05 PM
well after seeing some rat look cars today at PV, gotta say i'm coming round to the whole look. That astra estate taxi is actually quite good. Still don't understand the whole roof rack barrel thing lol!

Ian
08-06-08, 09:43 PM
I completely HATE the look

Stupidest thing out IMO
:thumb:

Rexy, you have confirmed you are even more gay than ever

Ste L
08-06-08, 09:51 PM
he doesn't need to comfirm that..

tis common knowlege lol lol

andyrs1800
08-06-08, 10:23 PM
If you want the ratlook i'll come do it now, lol

mowgli
08-06-08, 10:37 PM
http://www.ratfans.com/images/Rat%20On%20The%20Road/images/Roland-York3.jpg
The original rat look car

meritlover
08-06-08, 10:41 PM
rat-look is just an excuse to have a car in a poor condition, there will no doubt be loads of un polished, un loved badly looked after cars full of catalloy and badly sprayed with rattle cans turning up in the for sale adds sold as 'real rat-look head turner'

make your nova nice, dont treat it with such disrespect. :( you bring tears to my eyes :(

nova---chris
08-06-08, 10:53 PM
if ya cant afford a respray . At least you can do the rat look for no cost at all.

But i dislike the look tbh. Looks like micky farmers scrap yard up the road from me.

meritlover
09-06-08, 12:05 AM
you can do a decent respray with cans without passing it off as 'rat-look' just because you dont know what the hell your doing.

ste
10-06-08, 09:29 PM
that now looks like....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/CrAzY_kAyLL/SP_A0127.jpg

:(

and at pv :thumb:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e112/alexellson/PVS%202008/Show-15.jpg

conad
10-06-08, 09:32 PM
^^^^ Cool lil thing aint it, i love it personally, he from my end.

Lynsey
10-06-08, 09:38 PM
Was cool to see a couple but guessing future shows are going to be full of them which won't be cool lol

conad
10-06-08, 09:45 PM
il second that, they r only 'cool' when they're different, if everyone does it the origionality will be lost