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white2lSR
17-05-08, 09:57 PM
Can anyone give me a rough guide to changing the Cam belt on my engine please. Ive looked at the Haynes manual and its not clear about the tensioner.
Also, is this an engine with auto or manual tensioner??
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r57/rubberrambo/nova060508002.jpg
I have done belts on an 8v but never one of these so any help please:tard:
Clean 2.0 nova
17-05-08, 11:12 PM
Not an auto tensioner in my limited experience if you can compare it to an X20XEV.
http://www.pngclub.com/images/car_images/3501big5.jpg
The one above the lowest V pulley is the tensioner on mine, it has markings stating where it should be set from either a new or old belt. If you don't have an auto tensioner its a case of adjusting it on the water pump by turning it one way or the other ( pulley is offset in centre).
This is from my experience on my engine so don't shoot me if I'm wrong but it may help none the less.
your xe is the early round tooth setup, it does not ave an auto adjust tensioner. the upper pullet below your cam pulleys is the tensioner..
Aye as above.
Yours has a spring type tensioner
white2lSR
18-05-08, 02:30 PM
do i need the tool quoted in the haynes manual for tightening up the belt?
No, theres actually a spring that fits between the 2 posts (1 on the tensioner and 1 on the back plate) to tension the belt, best to remove them once the belt is tensioned, heard storys of them popping off and mangling the belt !!
I've got one sitting in the garage if you need one.
Dead easy to change the belt over, just make sure the 3 marks line up ... cant go wrong really !!
Edit: its also worth replacing the rollers as well, as these are also known to fail.
also use new bolts for everything.. you wont be the first with a broken tensioner bolt while driving..
white2lSR
18-05-08, 06:26 PM
where is the best place to get a belt kit from?
do i need the tool quoted in the haynes manual for tightening up the belt?
You can use a driver from a socket set on a ratchet to tenssion the belt fella.
:thumb:
As for a belt kit i would get it form vauxhall as comes with the rollers.
It would pay to fit a new water pump at the same time as it's a 5 min job with the engine out and belt off.
white2lSR
18-05-08, 08:34 PM
what about this kit?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160096814481&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006
Looks to be the right one, as said, best to get a water pump as well, about £30 from TMS.
Not sure on what size the bolts are but if your wanting to change them, pop along to Johnson & Bulman with the old bolts, they should be able to match up some new ones.
not for an xe that one, looking at the list of engine's
Opel Calibra 2.0 16V ( Eng. C20XE, 20XE ) CAM - Up 1992
Looks to be the right kit to me ?
Opel Calibra 2.0 16V ( Eng. C20XE, 20XE ) CAM - Up 1992
Looks to be the right kit to me ?
i know, just noticed, that, hence deleting my old message :roll:
i had this one up on my screen when i replied, so was looking at the wrong one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KTB254-Dayco-Timing-Belt-Kit-Opel-Astra-Vauxhall_W0QQitemZ160098861326QQihZ006QQcategoryZ1 0404QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
coombsey
19-05-08, 11:35 AM
my spring fell off mine pulled the roller off its post and broke 10mm off my bolt
white2lSR
19-05-08, 02:15 PM
Looks to be the right one, as said, best to get a water pump as well, about £30 from TMS.
Not sure on what size the bolts are but if your wanting to change them, pop along to Johnson & Bulman with the old bolts, they should be able to match up some new ones.
Where is Johnson & Bulman?
craig green
19-05-08, 02:20 PM
I'd price up a GATES kit. They make the kits for GM & Volkswagen. See if its cheaper. Most good factors can get them. Makes sense if Vauxhall want much more.
I just got quoted £82 for my 1600XE cam belt kit.
get a genuine kit mate. £75 from chris astley...
Dayco are pretty good kits tbh, as good as genuine.
Where is Johnson & Bulman?
Carlisle, Just along the road from Vasey's, pretty much opposite where the Pagoda (that turned into Freedom Nightspot) used to be, think its now a carpet shop ?
white2lSR
19-05-08, 06:35 PM
Right, i know where you mean.
do you come trough to Carlsile much?
Aye a fair bit, only live in Wigton.
white2lSR
19-05-08, 06:39 PM
oh right, i thought you lived out west!?
Nah, give me a shout if you want a hand with owt.
white2lSR
19-05-08, 06:52 PM
if your about at the weekend give me a text (07849139977) and come and have a look at the progress so far.
wouldnt mind a look at your car too!
white2lSR
15-06-08, 02:48 PM
i won this. thought it was a bargin!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180246737381&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2F search.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle% 3D180246737381%2509%26fvi%3D1
Nota bad price really, give me a shout if your still wanting to borrow that hole saw / cambelt tensioner spring.
white2lSR
15-06-08, 05:08 PM
yea, could do with borrowing both if thats ok. are you coming to carlisle at all this nextweek?
I'm gonna be heading thru in the next 1/2 hour or so !!
PM me where you live and ill drop them off.
white2lSR
15-06-08, 05:22 PM
bloody typical, im off out shortly to get some tea.:cry:
you use a 3/8 ratchet to tighten the belt, thats what the 3/8 hole is there for...
Different XE belt setups:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/lashednova/Timingsetupdiagrams.gif
IIRC older belts are 141 teeth and newer ones 156 teeth
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