View Full Version : Remember this guy (Norris)...
NovaLad
08-05-08, 02:59 AM
From last year crashing at castle combe?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9-9bhZUlavc
Well he's at it again.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VQlz6TqtdNs
Full in car vid.
http://www.norris-designs.co.uk/May%20day%20crash.wmv
chimp007_uk
08-05-08, 06:47 AM
i was there the first time... was told about his recent stunt last night.
the guy should learn to drive lol does look like his brakes went from the incar vid :roll:
they should bring in regs to limit the power that you can drive till you've done so many races. the saloon's is crazy as it is with 130hp 106's against evo's and s4's. the first crash was his 2nd competative race... lol
IMHO he has no respect for other track users.
IMHO he has no respect for other track users.
I was thinking exactly the same thing myself. Ill be sure to NEVER go on the track when hes on it! I should be alright though cus his Evo will never be able to keep up with my xr3i! :p
He may have no respect but he has also got a Raped Bank Balance after stacking all those cars. What a muppet.
chimp007_uk
08-05-08, 10:23 AM
Should invest in some advance driver training... lol or learn his lesson admit he's not the greatest driver and stop... lol
To be honest the saloon race is the best thing to watch but in recent years has got way too big for its boots with cars running stupid power. There's been 4 big big crashes in the past 8months
craig green
08-05-08, 10:47 AM
Its foolish to jump the gun & blame his skills (or lack of) however seeing the pics & videos of both crashes, I wish he'd drop down a couple classes & drive something he can handle.
Maybe keep the 700bhp EVO's for drag stripping.
Lots of slagging off going on on lots of forums about this incedent. At the end of the day, its easy to jump to conclusions when you dont know all the facts. All I know is, break fail at that particular moment, approaching a big pack of back markers, especially at Tower where there's no runoff, would be farking scary. He had a split second to decide what to do, and IMHO he chose the best one in those circumstances. Could have been a lot worse if he just shut his eyes and ploughed into the pack.
I stand by what I said after the last incedent, there is far too big a divide between the classes in those races. Both accidents were caused because of that. If there were no slow moving backmarkers, Norris probably could have attempted to stay on the road and possibly end up in the tyre wall on his own, involving noone else. Instead because he was approaching the backmarkers so fast, he had no choice but to chuck it off the circuit!
Comments like 'he cant drive' are a tad presumtuous IMO. Watching the rest of his footage, i see nothing wrong with his driving at all.
Racing incedent, it happens!
BEN187NOVA
08-05-08, 11:37 AM
i agree track driving in a 700bhp car is very hard , break fail is out of your hands you just got to try and deal with it the best you can .
people being harsh try and put yourself in his boots
Well his over taking manouver in the 1st video was just stupid. Did he even see the Pug?
meritlover
08-05-08, 12:40 PM
http://www.norris-designs.co.uk/May%20day%20crash.wmv
Evos:roll: the only thing theyre for is thrashing through woods, and gravel stages, on the track theyre just high powered boats.
that car is Waaaaaay too rich under boost. look at the smoke under accelleration!!
its a quick car tho! if only he could drive!
WTF?! no brakes my an-oos. he was going for it regardless of the back markers. he's a danger to EVERY one. the red EVO driver would have eaten his a$$ if he never made the few mistakes that he did. and he was in a less powered car! id go very un happy if that was me! total idiot on all 3 occasions!!
http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=202709
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lol @ the keyboard warriors. Thank goodness we have people who can pass such easy judgement when they've never raced in their life! Lol
I have to admit, when I saw the second vid I let out a small LOL at the way the lancer's spoiler just popped off lol
His Evo dont half smoke somewhat lol
Mechanical fault maybe, but why cut across the infield knowing full well you'll re-enter the circuit infront of oncoming vehicles. Take the outside verge on your own, not take down other bloody vehicles.
Mechanical fault maybe, but why cut across the infield knowing full well you'll re-enter the circuit infront of oncoming vehicles. Take the outside verge on your own, not take down other bloody vehicles.
Said on MLR he was trying to cut speed by getting the car sideways instead of just stacking it head on into the wall and risking his own life
Said on MLR he was trying to cut speed by getting the car sideways instead of just stacking it head on into the wall and risking his own life
Knock it down cogs in a straight cut will lose more speed then sideways on grass.
I dont claim to be no Michael Schumacher, as im not, but ive done enough rallying to know that grass doesnt slow you down as fast of a downshift lol
trackdaynova
08-05-08, 06:30 PM
Mechanical fault maybe, but why cut across the infield knowing full well you'll re-enter the circuit infront of oncoming vehicles. Take the outside verge on your own, not take down other bloody vehicles.
Not as if he had 15 minutes to think about it, is it? Literally SPLIT second decision.
Firstly, fact is he was approaching a right hand corner, so surely your gut instinct would be to try and make the corner? or at least turn the same way.
Secondly, in my opinion, its a good job for him he did hit another car to surpress the velocity, could quite have been hospitalised, or even worse if he had of just ploughed into the tyres with no run off.
All my opinion mind, not generating an argument :thumb:
Im fully aware of how much reaction time he had, i once made a wrong split second decision in a 106 Rally car and broke my coler bone on a tree lol
With carrying speed the vehicle had, all possible distance's etc then yes i suppose using another vehicle to slow him down could have saved him. But on the in car vid he drops it down gear but keeps the clutch down lol continues across the infield sideways and kapoowie.
Knock it down cogs in a straight cut will lose more speed then sideways on grass.
haha, As said above. I'd like to see you think and do that in 3 seconds ! :thumb:
I remember the 1st crash. Without making a total judgement i'd have said that was a bit of a major error !
However this time it's just a bit of bad luck.
Oh and meritlover. Evo's are pretty good on-track, i suggest you try one ! They're a bit boatish on the standard suspension, but with a 30mm drop or ideally some coilovers they're pretty agile.
p.s Will you please be my dad.
haha, As said above. I'd like to see you think and do that in 3 seconds ! :thumb:
Im guessing by that comment your assuming ive never participated in Motorsport then :thumb:
Im guessing by that comment your assuming ive never participated in Motorsport then :thumb:
I'm guessing by that comment your assuming i'm assuming you've never participated in motorsport. :thumb:
It's a tall order, asking someone who's going 110mph into traffic, with completely random brake failure to slow themselves down by going through gears !
It was an human reaction, i don't think for a second he was trying to slow himself down. he just tried to take the corner. I'd do the same, and i imagine 99% of people would have done.
I wouldnt say a tall orded really, its the first thing i would have done! Slamming it down gear snapping out the clutch as i go? Inevitably getting it sideways into the tyres.
But yes i suppose a lot of people would intially try an take the corner at xxx mph though.
Lol @ people saying he cant drive.
Watch the vid when hes battling with the other evo, certainly seems pretty capable to me.
And as for the crash the other day, he lost ALL brakes(you can hear him pumping the brakes in the vid), at 110mph heading towards the back of a few cars and a tyre wall, it was never going to end prettily. BUT what he did looked to have kept injury(to people at least which is all that matters) to a minimum.
And MeritLover making a comment about it running rich?, i mean come on, its Norris Designs and im pretty sure his engine will be quite well mapped LOL
meritlover
09-05-08, 12:55 PM
Adam, it IS running rich (hence the smoke) i didnt say it was badly mapped. perhaps it was a mechanical failure, but the first 2 clips were pretty crazy. ie going balls out over grass, and expecting not to slide?! risk perception seems poor IMO
Nick, iam pretty well aware that evos are 'more' agile on a drop with decent suspension, but theyre just not the best of track cars, end of IMO.
lee, PMSL at 'keyboard warriers' lol
I'd say there a damn sight better track-car than a nova !
Philsutton
09-05-08, 03:07 PM
Ive had the same happen to me on track, **** holed it round for a few laps. The I started to smell what I thought was someone's clutch burning and started laughing thinking someone else had broken their car, how wrong I was it was my brakes that had decided to catch fire or near enough. After the straight I went to brake to go into a sharp corner only for me to have zero brakes, with the speedo off the clock it wasnt that funny lol. Luckliy I had no traffic in front and enough time to go down the gears and made it round the corner fine with a lot of swearing.
If there had been cars in front I would expect there have been a huge accident.
I do think that the big difference in car performance on track is doing it no favours though and I think a lot of the crash's could be prevented in doing so.
Adam, it IS running rich (hence the smoke) i didnt say it was badly mapped. perhaps it was a mechanical failure, but the first 2 clips were pretty crazy. ie going balls out over grass, and expecting not to slide?! risk perception seems poor IMO
Nick, iam pretty well aware that evos are 'more' agile on a drop with decent suspension, but theyre just not the best of track cars, end of IMO.
lee, PMSL at 'keyboard warriers' lol
I never said it wasn't running rich ;)
LMAO @ Phil "started laughing thinking someone else had broken their car"
lollol
Its always funny when its not your own car lol
slickman7
10-05-08, 12:04 PM
lol at the ppl on the bank running away how is that crash eve gonna reach em lol
one guy just sat there like nothing was going on
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