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dan23
20-04-08, 07:38 PM
i cant get my twin 40s to run my engine i ve got the correct jets from euro carb but it wont idle

how turns in /out should the idle screws have
its running a 1.4 bottom 1.3 head an 1.4 cam

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/379/dsc00011li0.th.jpg (http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00011li0.jpg)

Adam
20-04-08, 07:41 PM
Silly question but, is the idle turned up enough?

Will it stay running if you hold the throttle

Stuart
20-04-08, 07:43 PM
take it to an RR for a setup :D

dan23
20-04-08, 08:21 PM
before when i put them on it would stay running with throttle held open but was jetted for 1.3 . i replaced the jets as my engine is 1.4 now it run even if thriottle is held open

dan23
21-04-08, 09:30 PM
surely i should be able to get to run (badly) before its taken for rr setup so they will have something to work with
not just a heap that wont start

Adam
21-04-08, 09:42 PM
What jets/chokes are fitted?

I could find my old jet/choke sizes that my t40d 1400 had, but i ran webers so there iirelevant.

dan23
22-04-08, 08:54 PM
i cant remember off top of my head but i told euro carb the set up an they gave me the correct bits

tom_beverley
23-04-08, 09:36 AM
I will have a look at mine tonight if I remember and note the jet sizes down for you.

IIRC when I got mine they were jetted for a 1600 though, but I ran them on my B+ 1400 no problems. If nothing else it will give you a guide :p

meritlover
24-04-08, 08:02 AM
is the ign timing correct? you able to achieve a perfectly smooth idle without taking it to the Dyno.
what is your fuel pressure?

dan23
24-04-08, 07:12 PM
i dont know the fuel pressure i using a new mech pump an a regulator that came with the carbs

as for timing the timing pointer on the block semed to be missing so we used a wd40 straw on the hole so it could be a tooth out

but after all this was done it ran with the old jets with the throttle held open (the jets were for a 1.3 engine)

sincereplacing the jets its not run on further inspection the idle screws were turned quite alot i ve turned the idle up but still no joy

maybe i should put the old jets back in with the idle up an see what happens

dan23
24-04-08, 08:29 PM
this is one of the old jets you can see it has a rubber o ring seal on it

the new ones dont could this be the problem ?

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/884/image000zw7.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image000zw7.jpg)

Adam
24-04-08, 08:40 PM
Yes

dan23
24-04-08, 08:48 PM
so i need to order aset of those rubber o rings or can they be taken off an swapped over

what do they do ?

Adam
24-04-08, 09:04 PM
Try taking them off and swapping them over.
Looking at them, id say they stop fuel leaking out/air leaking into the idle needle jet

mad-driver
25-04-08, 08:33 PM
God haven't been on here for a while!...

Anyway, might be worth checking what sort of carbs they are. If you're lucky enough to have the emission type dellortos they require totally different jetting to normal carbs. I found this out when i put jets in mine, that should have worked fine, but wouldn't idle whatsoever...

Just an example is that normal carbs (non-emission type) may need a 40 idle jet, whereas emission type carbs like i had, would only run if you upped the jet size to 55/60.

Just a thought, though it could be as simple as Ad says... with the lack of o'rings sealing the jet itself.

meritlover
27-04-08, 11:06 AM
get it running close to idle on the throttle. cup your hands over the trumpets and if the idle steadies then its running too lean. if its worse then its too rich.