changing engine size on log book

[imnobby]

hi there i was just about to change my engine size on my loog book as it is a 1.4 8v at the moment and i am just about to put a corsa gsi 1.6 16v turbo into it how hard will it be to get insured as i have had previous problems with other cars when the engine doesn't match standard spec cheers for any info you can give me thanks ryan

[Jack]

As said in the other thread, if you're 18 then you may have problems - most specialist insurers only deal with 19+

Even then, expect a rather large premium. Whats your postcode area, NCB, will this be your main everyday car?

[imnobby]

da16 1 year ncb and yeah it will be my everyday car

[Jack]

DA16 is F-rated! Thats almost the worst you can get.... soooo expect it to be expensive!

How much do you pay to insure the car at the moment?

[imnobby]

well ive been quoted on my own ?900 which aint bad really is it? i know the 1.6 turbo will be ?2000 ish

[stylesy451]

how hard do u think it will be for me wen i have changed my 1.2 engine for 1.4 in my nova and wer is the best place to go or shall i keep it on log book as 1.2

[John]

/\eh?

[stylesy451]

will i struggle to get insurance on my nova if i tell them ive changed my 1.2 engine for 1.4? or is it best to tell them its still a 1.2

[General Baxter]

will i struggle to get insurance on my nova if i tell them ive changed my 1.2 engine for 1.4? or is it best to tell them its still a 1.2

DO YOU WANT A SLAP

not telling them is illegal

[stylesy451]

lol shhhhhhh!

[John]

oh dear.

[Jack]

If you're going to lie about the engine size, why bother even getting a policy? As it won't be worth the paper its written on.

Incidentally, I had a letter from DVLA today, with my V5 back. B'stards want an engineers report, and haven't updated the V5. :mad:

[stylesy451]

lol we have had sevrall serveyers come at and look at trashed cars at my work place and they havent even opend the bonnet

[John]

If you're going to lie about the engine size, why bother even getting a policy? As it won't be worth the paper its written on.

Incidentally, I had a letter from DVLA today, with my V5 back. B'stards want an engineers report, and haven't updated the V5. :mad:

Jack, i've been having the same problem with the retards at the dvla for months now, get some sort of letter off to them sharpish, you may not make pvs!

[stylesy451]

if i change it to 1.4 on log book what will they say coz i was gonna tell them and change it on log book then wen i put reg on insurance company website it will cum up 1.4 and go from ther or will i get a letter back wen i change it on log book?

[John]

Dude, i'm having trouble reading the text type with no punctuation. (stu will kick your **** for text type, it's not accepted on here).

Whichever way you do it, you need to notify the dvla/your insurance company of ANY changes to your car.

[stylesy451]

i was hoping i could just change it to 1.4 on the log book then when i go to insure it online i will put in the registration and it will come up as a 1.4? im getting the impression that its not that easy. can some one tell me exactly what i need to do and how long it will take and roughly how much its going to cost.

[Lee]

Once you have changed the information with the DVLA, it should appear on insurers websites as a 1.4. You will probably need proof for the DVLA that the engine has indeed been swapped, via an engineers report from a garage of some description. Cost will be varied on how much the garage want for a report, but it wont be much.

Insurance will be expensive as it has had an engine conversion, but again, how expensive is varied.

Long and short of it, if you dont tell the DVLA its got a bigger engine, your liable for tax fraud as youll be in a lower bracket with the smaller engine. If you dont tell your insurers, you will be uninsured anyway, and getting caught will carry the same penalties.

Its a pain in the ass I know, but not keeping yourself legal in these areas is irresponsible as your putting other people at risk.

[stylesy451]

i work in a garage im the apprentice can i get a report from my boss who is qualified technician? how long will it take for the dvla bit take to get sorted?

[Lee]

How long is a piece of string?

[John]

I started my problems with the dvla months ago, possibly august last year?, I still have no log book.

[lee coley]

Most insurance companies will not touch a car with an engine conversion,On the web sites the reg wont bring the car up unless you go with adrian flux or etc,thats what i found any way.

[Jack]

Car will only come up automatically if both the insurance company and DVLA have updated their records. However, even then you must still inform the insurance company its had an engine conversion, as it didn't leave the factory with that size of engine (ergo: modified). Most assessors are lazy, but some will look for any excuse to get out of paying, and sods law dictates the day yours goes into the shop for an insurance repair is the day the assessor is feeling picky lol


Jack, i've been having the same problem with the retards at the dvla for months now, get some sort of letter off to them sharpish, you may not make pvs!
Thats what worries me - the engine is in, but it may not get running for a while. My plan was to get all the paperwork sorted, then MOT it, but at this rate I'll need to get either the MOT tester to check the engine or run it down to Vauxhall and have them verify the engine number. By the time thats all done though it'll probably be October ....2014 lol

Hmm, thinking about it, the letter from the DVLA doesn't say the integrity of the installation needs to be checked, just they need verification of the engine number. Reading it word for word, I could just ask Vauxhall to confirm the engine number is indeed a 2.0 Vauxhall engine without them even seeing the car.... although the chances of that are about as likely as draper giving up stella lol

[stylesy451]

**** it i wont tell them its the best way hehe

[stylesy451]

i wont tell them its the best way hehe

[lee coley]

you need to tell them,whats the point in not telling them.

[stylesy451]

i probably will just hassel that i dont need at the moment

[lee coley]

but you wont be insured,

fraud

[stylesy451]

not if i have more than 1 car:p

[meritlover]

what does that matter? in the result of an accident are you going to run home, smash your 'spare car' and dump it beside the scene? or are you going to swap the engine back at the side of the road after you wrap it round a lamp post or a donkey?

[lee coley]

lollollollollol

[thedjse]

**** it i wont tell them its the best way hehe

Mate you just admitted your gonna do illegal things on a PUBLIC forum

They can use this against you if you ever crashed you know

:thumb:

[meritlover]

Ummmmmm im telling!!!!!
well if you ever crash into me you scroat and i find you have no insurance i will get medievil on your ass.

[thedjse]

Ummmmmm im telling!!!!!
well if you ever crash into me you scroat and i find you have no insurance i will get medievil on your ass.

LMFAO lol

[stylesy451]

well to start off with i havent changed the engine over yet so im still legal and if i do change the engine then while its being sorted with dvla i will drive my insured and taxed corsa van lol dunno wat you lot are going on about

[lee coley]

your onabout insuring a car without telling the insuance company/DVLA

[stylesy451]

yes but i havent done anything wrong i said i havent got time for the hassel at the moment WHEN i change the engine i will tell the dvla and insurance company but in the meantime i will keep it 1.2 therfore im insured

[thedjse]

I was on the same lines at you at 1st mate but if you get caught its not worth it lol

[General Baxter]

on a good note, i got the log book for the loon today, i got the car in feb killer :)

[lee coley]

they seem to be taking ages these days

[General Baxter]

they dont when they want money off you lol

[lee coley]

like owt else

[NASTYNOVA]

DO YOU WANT A SLAP

not telling them is illegal

and if you get caught your car gets squashed!!

[16v_nova_16v]

i got a c20xe in my nova with loads of mods and i am fully comp as its still logged as a 1.2 sxi nova lol the mot was tricky but got some 1 to test it as 16v conversion so its possible just remeber to not get caught with a mood on doing 90 though 30s lol but n e ways am payin nearly 1000 pound!

[djshaggeh]

Well all I can say is dont kill someone cause you'll DEFINATLY get set down.

[coldo66rc]

eh i bought a nova with a 2.0 16v in with th logbook changed to what it should be then when i phoned up my insurance company to get it insured for a week they said it was a 1.2 merit lol... so what does this mean that insurers don't check cars for updates in there V5

[Jack]

Could be the insurance company hasn't updated their records from the DVLA, or was just reading off a car description line... not noticing the engine capacity as 1998cc.


I got a c20xe in my nova with loads of mods and i am fully comp as its still logged as a 1.2 sxi nova the mot was tricky but got some 1 to test it as 16v conversion so its possible just remeber to not get caught with a mood on doing 90 though 30s but n e ways am payin nearly 1000 pound!
Why did you bother buying insurance at all? :tard:

[DTR-DEVIL]

Could be the insurance company hasn't updated their records from the DVLA, or was just reading off a car description line... not noticing the engine capacity as 1998cc.


Why did you bother buying insurance at all? :tard:

Exactly, and why get FC? either way you claim your screwd.
So you might as well go TPO:roll:

[moley]

Can someone tell me in laments terms. If i change my engine from a 1.2 to a 2.0, whats the address/number to contact the dvla? And does it cost much?

Cheers,

[Adam]

Its all detailed on the logbook/dvla website.
It costs nothing to change it

[Jack]

Make the required changes on the logbook, in the sections provided. Note you'll need to provide the exact engine CC and engine number.

Post the updated V5 to:

DVLA
Swansea
SA99 1BA

Changes can take up to four weeks to return. Bear in mind they will quite likely ask for proof of the engine swap too, so you may need to take the car to a garage and have them write a note (on headed paper) to confirm the changes.