Saab turbo engine......

[vxsri20]

i can get hold of a saab turbo engine for my nova, being the same mounts etc...... but will a vauxhall f16 f18 f20 etc gearbox bolt onto it? also are the saab engines any good? whats the diffrence in performance between saab and vx let? any help would be great, cheers stu :thumb:

[Adam]

Saab motors tend to run low boost.

[meritlover]

hence why they do 200 k miles between rebuilds.
they can be tuned well. good levels of tunage inface. check out the saab forums.

[Saloony]

Sorry mate, but that aint going to happen... The saab lump is nothing like anything vauxhall have produced so no vauxhall box will mount to it, and mounts will have to be custom made jobbies.

[meritlover]

i think i read a PPC magazie that was in the toilets which stated something about a Saab engine and Vauxhall box. maybe i am thinking about another car/box though :(

[vxsri20]

Sorry mate, but that aint going to happen... The saab lump is nothing like anything vauxhall have produced so no vauxhall box will mount to it, and mounts will have to be custom made jobbies.

oh ive been told the mounts are the same as let engines, is it more hassle than its worth then do you reckon?

[meritlover]

if you think you can do it then its probably not too much hassle. however if you think you cant do it then its hassle level increases.

[vxsri20]

i was just thinking of saving money as i can get this saab turbo for about ?100, but if things need to be custom made etc, would it be worth spending a good ?1000 - ?1500 for a let engine?

[meritlover]

it depends whether you want to save yourself hassle or save money.
if i had an engine for that money i would do it all myself. but you are not me and i am not you.

[Mike]

Buy the SAAB, and break it :thumb: youll make some easy cash ;)

[Philsutton]

My brothers one of the saabs and its not bad for little monies, ive had a gander round and TBH its not going to be a straight fit, the block is nothing like a vauxhall one but cant see what the mounts are like.

Think theirs was 170-180bhp which is crap from a 2lt turbo, however they have got it boosting to 15psi now. Any more an its cuts the fueling.

One reason the engines are cheap is the coil packs go on them like every few thousand miles and cost 180 new lol.

You think your getting a bargin but there is always a reason why things are cheap.

[meritlover]

if you were serious about tunings this engine, you would installate a programming ECU and fit coil packs of something else. this would also get over the problem with fuel cut with out using a FCD.

[Stuart]

depends which saab engine you get.... The 9-3 1.8/2.0 turbo engines are based on the Z22SE and use the GM F23 gearbox. But good luck getting one of those engines cheap lol

[Philsutton]

if you were serious about tunings this engine, you would installate a programming ECU and fit coil packs of something else. this would also get over the problem with fuel cut with out using a FCD.

yes thats true but the only reason you want to use this engine is if your gypo an want to do a cheap conversion which rules out after market management.

[meritlover]

perhaps

[Edwin]

Have a look at this people.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8222

[just vaux trev]

i heard that saab engines were made by gm and vaux gearbox's mounts are all the same or at least in the same place:confused:

[burgo]

i heard that saab engines were made by gm and vaux gearbox's mounts are all the same or at least in the same place:confused:purhaps you were thinking the v6 engines as they are pretty much identicle

[staggy_gsi]

was just going to say that burgo. the saab v6 is essentially a GM v6 but i dont think there are many similarities between the turbo lumps

[Edwin]

maybe this is interesting?

http://www.answers.com/topic/gm-family-ii-engine

[Sloth]

right, any saab turbo lump built after 1994 fits an f20. the wiring is like wiring an ecotec i.e transponder etc. a lad up here is puttin a 2.0 high pressure in a corsa on an f20, and saabflight did the ecu and a few other bits when it was in a 900, he had 257 bhp on the rollers. yes the belt end mount is a one off but thats not that hard to do now is it? remember when xe's didnt have fitting kits? (god i feel old......)

[Edwin]

If you are going for a challange, try to find one of these!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/4/43/250px-2006_Saturn_Ion_Red_Line_engine.jpg (http://www.answers.com/main/Record2?a=NR&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FIm age%3A2006%2520Saturn%2520Ion%2520Red%2520Line%252 0engine.jpg) http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/style/images/magnify-clip.png (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:2006%20Saturn%20Ion%20Red%20Line%20engine.jp g)
Ecotec LSJ engine in a 2006 Saturn ION Red Line (http://www.answers.com/topic/saturn-ion)


The LSJ is a de-stroked (to 86 mm) version of the L61 Ecotec with an Eaton (http://www.answers.com/topic/eaton-corporation) M62 Roots-type supercharger (http://www.answers.com/topic/roots-type-supercharger) and air-to-liquid intercooler (http://www.answers.com/topic/intercooler). It is rated at 205 hp and 200 ft?lbf. With the end of the Chevy Cobalt SS and Saturn Ion Red Line, The LSJ will no longer be available in a production car after 2007.
The LSJ was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines (http://www.answers.com/topic/ward-s-10-best-engines) list for 2006.
This engine is used in:
Year(s) Model Power Torque 2004-2007 Saturn ION Red Line (http://www.answers.com/topic/saturn-ion) 205 hp 200 ft?lbf 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe (http://www.answers.com/topic/chevrolet-cobalt) 205 hp 200 ft?lbf

[Stuart]

^^ based on the Z22SE as fitted to 2000MY onwards Astras/Vectras etc.

I think someone has fitted an S/C 2.2 into a corsa.

[burgo]

i think i saw that at last pv stuart. cant remember if it was a corsa or not but i remember seeing something supercharged using the lsj head

[meritlover]

the orientation of the ports looks different on that head. is that indeed the case?

[burgo]

the orientation of the ports looks different on that head. is that indeed the case?yes the lsj heads are back to front. so the inlet is at the front of the engine in other words

[Stuart]

its a manly breed of engine :D

[Mike]

I think someone has fitted an S/C 2.2 into a corsa.

Indeed they have, i saw it at PV too, had a nice polished charger and mucho bling :D