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Rick Draper
10-01-08, 11:25 PM
Well here are the bits i just collected:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1894.jpg

chrisnovaturbo
10-01-08, 11:28 PM
is that a vxr pump and pick up?

Rick Draper
10-01-08, 11:38 PM
Yup VXR oil pump and pickup pipe.

Got these parts as well for the rebuild:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/DSC00033.jpg
AIM strada dash, with egt probe etc.
Coscast head ported by Neil Roper,
Fresh block with oil sprayers fitted,
Solid lifters,
+1mm valves,
HKS head gasket,
Hydraulic clutch setup,
Possibly a new exhaust manifold.

chrisnovaturbo
10-01-08, 11:45 PM
sounds good. what happend at total vaux meet then?

Rick Draper
10-01-08, 11:54 PM
Head gasket failed at 2.2 bar boost and about 500bhp. Melted a chunk out of the old coscast head and forced all the water out of the header tank as it instantly pressurised with the boost.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/Novaturboblowup016.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/Novaturboblowup012.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/Novaturboblowup019.jpg
This time it will be bigger and better than before.

chrisnovaturbo
11-01-08, 12:00 AM
thats mad lol. will be watching this. good luck with it. let me no if your selling any bits that are any good that your changing.

Adam
11-01-08, 12:01 AM
Good to see its coming back even better than before :)

Rick Draper
11-01-08, 12:14 AM
Might be selling my 200SX exhaust manifold. Its modded to fit a GT30 and has been ceramic coated inside and out. Its also got a boss welded in ti for a EGT probe.

craig green
11-01-08, 12:58 PM
To use what instead?

Stoo
11-01-08, 01:22 PM
re-re-re-rebuild

good luck rick

Nick
11-01-08, 01:26 PM
Allways been a fan of this car !

Hope you have better luck this time

Rick Draper
11-01-08, 02:16 PM
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimages/6075/gt35klaar.jpg

Probably something like this which is made by Beardy on mig.

craig green
11-01-08, 02:29 PM
Same turbo?

I guess its tailored for different power characteristic?

Rick Draper
11-01-08, 02:44 PM
Its a manifold with totally equal length runners so it should be slightly better. Bit back to square one though as i means a new downpipe and mods to the boost hoses are needed. Also i will have to get it ceramic coated again if i want that doing.

tom_beverley
11-01-08, 02:52 PM
Good luck with this one Rick, was gutted for you at Brunters :(

Rick Draper
11-01-08, 03:01 PM
Good luck with this one Rick, was gutted for you at Brunters :(

Worse things happen at sea and all that.

Just means that this rebuild is ticking some of the box's i should have ticked on the last one, larger valves, hydraulic clutch and possibly a cage of some description.

matthew172
11-01-08, 03:15 PM
great work rick

Adam
11-01-08, 03:36 PM
and possibly a cage of some description.
Leaving the interior in?

Rick Draper
11-01-08, 03:49 PM
Leaving the interior in?

Yes the interior will be stopping in place. Want a cage so i feel semi safe in it. Will just be a bolt in one with door bars etc, possibly from fabricage or the like. I might look at fitting a full weld in cage in the future and going the whole hog, roof off to remove sunroof etc. But that depends if i decide i can feel any difference between cage and no cage.

Adam
11-01-08, 03:56 PM
Cool, id definently leave the interior in, its too nice to remove lol

Paul
11-01-08, 06:51 PM
Rick, are you still going to get the cage trimmed in leather, that'd be sexual lol

krobinson
11-01-08, 07:07 PM
Great work Rick, car's an inspiration to us all!

Keith

Rick Draper
13-01-08, 12:53 PM
Rick, are you still going to get the cage trimmed in leather, that'd be sexual lol

I have been thinking about it. We will see though.

Rick Draper
21-01-08, 05:12 PM
Big thanks to steve milton for sorting the following parts:
One gasket set
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00079.jpg
One block with oil sprayers fitted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00081.jpg
One tin of Hammerite smooth blue paint
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00082.jpg
One HKS LET head gasket (almost costs as much as a whoile XE!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00083.jpg
One coscast head, port bored, fettled, solid lifters, double valve springs, +1mm steel valves, re-cut seats.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00086.jpg

craig green
21-01-08, 05:16 PM
You can have a HKS sticker on your door now...... next to the K&N & KENWOOD logo's.

bottom pic isnt a coscast btw.. :D

Adam
21-01-08, 05:17 PM
One HKS LET head gasket (almost costs as much as a whoile XE!)

Seriously? :eek::eek:

Paul
21-01-08, 05:26 PM
bottom pic isnt a coscast btw.. :D

How the bloody hell can you tell from there! :wtf: :confused:

Nice work Rick, Steve's just built my engine up, he's a top bloke!

Rick Draper
21-01-08, 05:27 PM
You can have a HKS sticker on your door now...... next to the K&N & KENWOOD logo's.

bottom pic isnt a coscast btw.. :D

Is now.

Adam i have seen whole XE's sell for only a little more than that gasket cost!

craig green
21-01-08, 05:30 PM
How the bloody hell can you tell from there! :wtf: :confused:



It was a duplicate pic of the Block........ :thumb:

Is the gasket a 1 off Rick? Hope its right.

Paul
21-01-08, 05:33 PM
I was going to say, I know of only 2 ways of telling if a head's coscast or not! And neither is from that angle!

Rick Draper
21-01-08, 05:36 PM
It was a duplicate pic of the Block........ :thumb:

Is the gasket a 1 off Rick? Hope its right.

Nope its the same as the one a guy runs on his huge power rally cross let engine.

Adam
21-01-08, 05:47 PM
Adam i have seen whole XE's sell for only a little more than that gasket cost!
Fooking hell lol


How come youve started with a complete different block instead of using the old one?

Rick Draper
21-01-08, 06:22 PM
Hassle and time involved in removing it when i had a spare block available to use.

Adam
21-01-08, 06:28 PM
Ah right.
When are you hoping to have it all back in for?

Lee H
21-01-08, 07:43 PM
If Rick gets it built up it might be going back in first week in Feb I think the plan is.

Block looks a bit better now than when you got it off me Rick!!

Paul
21-01-08, 08:44 PM
How comes it took nigh on 3 years before, but took 3 months to re-assemble the new engine lol! Only joking be nice to see it in the flesh some time this year!

Rick Draper
21-01-08, 10:24 PM
How comes it took nigh on 3 years before, but took 3 months to re-assemble the new engine lol! Only joking be nice to see it in the flesh some time this year!

Was all the messing about making up new wings, fitting new quarters and then the ever changing engine spec. Now the spec is quite settled and i know what i want.

Rick Draper
22-01-08, 12:28 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1902.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1903.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1904.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1905.jpg

vaughanmc
22-01-08, 04:39 PM
Good progress there - Glad to see your rebuilding it after the day at Brunters :)

Paul
22-01-08, 05:03 PM
Not messing about then! Good work!

Adam
22-01-08, 05:25 PM
Nice. Everyone knows blue blocks make more power too :cool:

Are all the pistons etc brand new too? Must be costing a fair wack, not that it bothers you considering how much the rest of the cars spec must have cost.

Stoo
22-01-08, 05:25 PM
will it have Vtak y0??

sorry couldnt resist!

Rick Draper
22-01-08, 05:41 PM
Nice. Everyone knows blue blocks make more power too :cool:

Are all the pistons etc brand new too? Must be costing a fair wack, not that it bothers you considering how much the rest of the cars spec must have cost.

Nope pistons have only done 350 miles so i am just going to fit some new rings on them and all will be fine.

Adam
22-01-08, 05:45 PM
Ahh right.
They just looked mega clean.

lee coley
22-01-08, 09:26 PM
this nova looks perfect

chrisnovaturbo
22-01-08, 09:36 PM
my block is blue lol,

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff113/christurbonova/nova027-1.jpg

Jim
23-01-08, 11:23 AM
Is this the engine your building up to put in my car Rick? ;)

How come you choose to paint the block blue?

Rick Draper
23-01-08, 12:59 PM
Is this the engine your building up to put in my car Rick? ;)

How come you choose to paint the block blue?

Yep thats the one jim!

Block is blue so its easy to spot and oil leaks etc.

Now aiming to have it in one piece over the next few weeks. There has been a bit of a delay with a few bits and bobs for it. Like sourcing the parts for the pedal end of a hydraulic clutch setup.

Rick Draper
30-01-08, 03:59 PM
Engine build is coming along, its just waiting on new piston rings to arrive then i have everything for the proper full build. Up untill then i am just doing the dry build to check all clearences on the engine. Just waiting for the head set to arrive and a water pump which should be here tomorrow then i can bolt the head down.

Shell progress is slow, waiting for the ap master cylinder for the hydraulic clutch setup and then i can get that all plumbed in and working.

Seems like a lot of work for a photo shoot then a for sale ad though...

Adam
30-01-08, 04:49 PM
It'll be worth it.

Rick Draper
31-01-08, 05:27 PM
550bhp?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1906.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1907.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1908.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1909.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1910.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1911.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1912.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1913.jpg

Martin
31-01-08, 05:43 PM
lookint good, what the black thing?

Rick Draper
31-01-08, 05:49 PM
Swindon Racing Engines cam belt cover.

vaughanmc
31-01-08, 05:59 PM
Those Swindon engines/parts not quite pricey?

Stoo
31-01-08, 06:00 PM
yep

nice build rick

Rick Draper
31-01-08, 06:22 PM
Those Swindon engines/parts not quite pricey?

That part was ?130 which is cheap in the grand scheme of the build.

Adam
31-01-08, 06:34 PM
Looking well

lee coley
31-01-08, 06:41 PM
550bhp???

Adam
31-01-08, 06:49 PM
550bhp???
Yeah....

IIRC 500 was on the cards the last time, and it has more spec this time ;)

lee coley
31-01-08, 06:51 PM
**** me will it move?

Rick Draper
31-01-08, 07:16 PM
Was pushing about 500bhp on the old head with stock lifters and valves, this time i have a more heavily ported head(lots more), the CR is higher, solid lifters and it has larger inlet and exhaust valves.

Stoo
31-01-08, 07:38 PM
higher compression?

i thoulght lowering was better for boost??

Adam
31-01-08, 07:43 PM
Highering apparently reduces lag, and is better for off boost driveability.

Stoo
31-01-08, 07:45 PM
surely it isnt great for big boost then?

lee coley
31-01-08, 07:57 PM
i have no idea what all that is but it sounds good.

how does it hold traction?

Rick Draper
31-01-08, 08:36 PM
2.2 bar boost will be fine on the new higher CR. Spoken to my mapper about it and its can handle the higher CR so all is good.

Stoo
31-01-08, 08:59 PM
wowser

good luck with it mate

Rick Draper
02-02-08, 06:01 PM
All ready for the head to be fitted:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1917.jpg
One downpipe:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1922.jpg
10 min later:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1923.jpg

krobinson
02-02-08, 07:53 PM
Good work, reminds me, I must wrap my downpipe too!!

John
02-02-08, 08:00 PM
All ready for the head to be fitted:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1917.jpg
One downpipe:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1922.jpg
10 min later:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG1923.jpg

Who made the front pipe rick? jp?

Rick Draper
02-02-08, 08:17 PM
Yup good ok JP, your one stop shop for all your stainless steel needs.

Adam
02-02-08, 11:38 PM
When should the head be back?

CP
03-02-08, 09:31 AM
lol those head and crank bolts would look at home in one of my tractors - pretty bloody beefy.

Good work there. Hope the head/gasket can cope after all the effort. It would be nice to finally see 1 of these vaux engines putting out reasonably reliable big numbers to match the likes of cosworth etc:)

Rick Draper
03-02-08, 05:24 PM
Had a productive day today, started by removing the old block:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1924.jpg
Then i set to on the hydraulic clutch setup which took longer than expected as i rounded the allen key out so out came the drill:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1925.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1926.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1927.jpg
All fitted:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1928.jpg
Then i made a start on the wiring which is going to be sorted out:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1929.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1932.jpg

Adam
03-02-08, 05:32 PM
How come youve gone to a hydraulic clutch setup?
Is there any benefit over cable? Apart from being more complex.

Rick Draper
03-02-08, 06:20 PM
How come youve gone to a hydraulic clutch setup?
Is there any benefit over cable? Apart from being more complex.

Running the twinplate clutch meant theat clutch cables did not last very long.

Adam
03-02-08, 06:35 PM
Oh right.


When you hoping have the engine back in by?

Rick Draper
03-02-08, 10:12 PM
Oh right.


When you hoping have the engine back in by?

Waiting for the clutch bits to arrive so i can drill bulkhead for the master cylinder. I also need the new piston rings which could well take quite some time to arrive as they cannot give me a delivery date.

I have also just bought a bolt in cage for the nova off colin smith so that will need fitting as well. Should stiffen the shell quite a lot.

Adam
03-02-08, 10:32 PM
Caged and buckets then?

Rick Draper
03-02-08, 10:36 PM
Might just cage it and leave the stock interior in to start with.

Adam
03-02-08, 10:43 PM
Cool :)

Rick Draper
03-02-08, 10:46 PM
Link to the cage.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150209745604&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:PIC&ih=005

macc nova
03-02-08, 11:30 PM
where did you get your seats retrimmed? anywhere local? im thinking of getting mine done?

Lee H
04-02-08, 08:22 AM
where did you get your seats retrimmed? anywhere local? im thinking of getting mine done?

Was done at MJ interiors, not sure where they are based but sure google will tell you.

R1CH
04-02-08, 06:38 PM
Link to the cage.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150209745604&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:PIC&ih=005

Did you price a new one up first ? i only paid ?317 (delivered) for my 6 point Rollcentre cage !
You just leaving it as a bolt in or you gonna tag it to the A / B pillars ? looks like your gonna have to make / buy some mounting plates (to weld to the floor) for it as well.

Rick Draper
04-02-08, 06:46 PM
Yup priced up a full fabricage and it was ?500+ for one. I am kind of limited with the shell having a sunroof as most cages do not fit but fabricage do one that fits so have the market cornered.

chris gsi
04-02-08, 10:36 PM
shame you did not get the fabricage one as they are very good but when you can get one for half the price its a bonus

Lee H
04-02-08, 10:39 PM
It is a fabricage one, the listing is wrong.

Rick Draper
05-02-08, 04:31 PM
One Neil Roper worked head. +1mm valves and solid lifters
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1938.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1939.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1940.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1941.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1942.jpg
Dry build in progress
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1948.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1947.jpg
Its all stripped back down again now waiting for new piston rings to arrive.
Here is one JP exhausts 3" system
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG1949.jpg
Got the petrol tank off to retrieve the none return ball and put it back in its cage.

Adam
05-02-08, 05:04 PM
Exhaust looks cool, massive bore.

Good to see the heads arrived.

Rick Draper
05-02-08, 05:15 PM
Martin Reyland has just emailed me to say i will have this little lot tomorrow:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/Hydraulicclutchparts.jpg
Tempted to leave the engine build to someone else, dont want any further problems so its probably the best way.

Adam
05-02-08, 05:16 PM
Tempted to leave the engine build to someone else, dont want any further problems so its probably the best way.
With the money involved in the engine parts, a very wise decision if you're not 100% confident.

Rick Draper
08-02-08, 04:25 PM
The engine is going to be built now by someone who knows what they are doing.

My shell now has a hydraulic clutch setup, it just needs bolting into place properly now i have checked that is all works ok.

Rick Draper
14-02-08, 06:44 PM
Cage me up:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/DSC00106.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/DSC00107.jpg
Just waiting on door bars, the whole lot is off to blasting and powder coating tomorrow.

Adam
14-02-08, 06:53 PM
Noice.
What colours it going? black?

Rick Draper
15-02-08, 10:16 AM
Yup satin black.

Adam
15-02-08, 04:51 PM
Cool.

krobinson
15-02-08, 06:46 PM
Good work rick! Looking forward to seeing how the cage looks when fitted :D

RJM25R
15-02-08, 07:11 PM
Was done at MJ interiors, not sure where they are based but sure google will tell you.

Huddersfield

peester
15-02-08, 07:53 PM
that cage,.. was it the one that was for sale on mig a while back?? going cheap that was - i was gutted to have missed it...

dan16v
17-02-08, 10:46 AM
this not finished yet?!

Rick Draper
17-02-08, 12:50 PM
that cage,.. was it the one that was for sale on mig a while back?? going cheap that was - i was gutted to have missed it...

Not sure, i got it off Colin Smith. It came out of a gsi he was breaking.

Rick Draper
17-02-08, 12:51 PM
this not finished yet?!

****! Get off your fecking **** and go and sort your Autronic wiring!

Rick Draper
17-02-08, 01:54 PM
The engine is now on its way to Steve thanks to Nobbie. He was collecting my old block and offered to drop the new one off with Steve. Hopefully its going to be a 3-4 week turn around on the engine so it could be done quite soon.

Riggy
17-02-08, 04:38 PM
nice one rick , sounds like its gonna be better then last time :thumb:

srstevey
17-02-08, 05:56 PM
nice man proper fat when its done

dan16v
18-02-08, 09:36 PM
****! Get off your fecking **** and go and sort your Autronic wiring!

lol lol not my job to sort that now!!

Rick Draper
24-02-08, 02:41 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00111.jpg
Door bars are now powder coated.

Breeny
25-02-08, 01:49 AM
Are you still at it?! Thought you would have broken it by now Rick! lol

It looks awesome mate... :)

chrisnovaturbo
25-02-08, 11:42 PM
lookin good mate. how did the head cost to do? if you dont mind me asking?

Rick Draper
26-02-08, 10:55 AM
Head was about ?900 + Valves and solid lifters.

R1CH
26-02-08, 06:56 PM
Head was about ?900 + Valves and solid lifters.

Holy c0cks !!

Rick Draper
26-02-08, 08:53 PM
Holy c0cks !!

That price included the head casting.

It was done by the following place:

http://www.roperdevelopments.co.uk/

Steve Milton sorted it all, used a very good condition dispac coscast casting then had it port bored and hand finished +1mm wasted inlet valves and +1mm exhaust ones, then steve built it and shimmed up my new arrow solid lifters.

blue_peg_16v
27-02-08, 07:06 PM
its going to shift then, good luck with it

chrisnovaturbo
27-02-08, 10:54 PM
is that a good price for headwork? i havnt shoped arond for headwork yet. looks the nuts tho.

Rick Draper
29-02-08, 07:41 PM
is that a good price for headwork? i havnt shoped arond for headwork yet. looks the nuts tho.

With head work you get what you pay for. I have had a head in the past off gary poole on mig and that was good, not worked as heavily as this one but it was a lot cheaper and the work was good. He has done quite a lot of people LET and xe heads on there and is very resonable. Depends what you want though.

Cage is all powder coated and looking mint. Its ready to be fitted this weekend. Fitting the front part as well to drill holes then it will be removed so the dash can be fitted again at a later stage.

Rick Draper
01-03-08, 12:35 PM
Cage all powder coated and looking 100 times better:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2806.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2807.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2808.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2809.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2810.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2812.jpg

Adam
01-03-08, 12:37 PM
Very nice indeed :cool:
How much did the powder coating cost?

Rick Draper
01-03-08, 12:40 PM
I got a really good deal as its my mate but to do someone else's cage it would be about ?50 + ?30ish for blasting.

Adam
01-03-08, 12:43 PM
Ah right.
I need to find the cheapest place get 4 15" wheels done in black.

John
01-03-08, 12:48 PM
Ah right.
I need to find the cheapest place get 4 15" wheels done in black.

(ad i need some 13" steels blasting and powder coating, let me know if you find anywhere)

Sorry for the thread hijack rick, cage looks good!

Rick Draper
01-03-08, 05:05 PM
Bolted in and started chopping a door card to try and figure out what to with it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2813.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2814.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2815.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2816.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2817.jpg

lee coley
01-03-08, 05:25 PM
What are your plans for the plastics?

Adam
01-03-08, 05:27 PM
It looks sweet in there against the red/black seats. :cool:
Shame you've had to hack up the doorcards.

lee coley
01-03-08, 05:38 PM
id remove the door bars

chrisnovaturbo
01-03-08, 11:25 PM
what are u doing about the elec sunroof panel?? if you take it down and want to get rid of it, let me no please because i want one for my gsi.

Rick Draper
02-03-08, 11:02 AM
Keeping the sunroof motor cover. Just going to cut it up to make it fit.

Lee
02-03-08, 11:05 AM
Are you planning on padding that cage? Especially in the back? Im sure you could do something nice with some fabric to match the rest of the interior? The amount of torque steer this beast creates would probably crack your skull like an egg lol

Rick Draper
06-03-08, 03:18 PM
Rear seats are in but they will never be used. Going to pad the cage around my head etc.

Bought these lights off Novaneil, they are brand new. Going to out them on and see how they look. Still a bit unsure if they will look right or not.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00117.jpg

burgo
06-03-08, 03:51 PM
recon if you had the time then they would look really good if you put the red lenses in to standard black frames

Martin
06-03-08, 04:39 PM
looking good mate..


Ad/John... round here a guy does them for ?30 awheel iirc..

Adam
06-03-08, 04:52 PM
Those rear lights will look cool imo, they suit a red car.

craig green
06-03-08, 04:53 PM
recon if you had the time then they would look really good if you put the red lenses in to standard black frames

What I was going to suggest, then scrolled down.

The Red surrounds to just add a slight tackiness IMO.

Adam
06-03-08, 05:09 PM
Look cool imo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20LET%20Build/b17et9.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20LET%20Build/b17et9.jpg)

dan16v
06-03-08, 08:58 PM
Cage looks a good fit mate! realy not feeling the lights though! too much red going on! the standard clusters break it up abit!

chrisnovaturbo
06-03-08, 10:38 PM
Rear seats are in but they will never be used. Going to pad the cage around my head etc.

Bought these lights off Novaneil, they are brand new. Going to out them on and see how they look. Still a bit unsure if they will look right or not.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00117.jpg

if you dont want to use them let me no and i will have them off you. i want a set for my next project:thumb:

jay xe
07-03-08, 11:23 AM
that is verry verry nice

Rick Draper
07-03-08, 06:20 PM
Todays work:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2863.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2862.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2864.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG2865.jpg

R1CH
07-03-08, 06:27 PM
Thought you were running inverted track rod ends ?? or were you just selling the modded knuckles ??
Rusty discs ... get them shot blasted !!

Rick Draper
07-03-08, 06:44 PM
Thought you were running inverted track rod ends ?? or were you just selling the modded knuckles ??
Rusty discs ... get them shot blasted !!

I was but it just never seemed to feel right with them fitted hence why i never sold any.

Disks will clean up once driven i hope.

Paul
07-03-08, 06:46 PM
not painting your hubs rick?

Rick Draper
07-03-08, 06:53 PM
not painting your hubs rick?

Nar i cannot be ****d as you cannot see them behind everything.

Rick Draper
07-03-08, 11:20 PM
Aim is up aan running now:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00119.jpg
Also 2 pics of the light loom all connected up to a light to make sure it all works:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00121.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/DSC00120.jpg
And it did not burst into flames when i connected it up and checked it all over!

lee coley
19-03-08, 08:06 PM
how long till completion?

novacabrio
19-03-08, 08:46 PM
how long till completion?

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Rick Draper
19-03-08, 11:42 PM
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

****! Just waiting for my engine which will probably be finished over the long weekend then i can crack on with the build. Its getting a few bits that have never been seen on a nova in the UK so its taking a while...

Adam
20-03-08, 12:39 AM
Planning on PV and Billing this year???

Rick Draper
20-03-08, 08:44 AM
Planning on PV and Billing this year???

I really do not know. We will wait and see.

Jim
20-03-08, 11:09 AM
Its getting a few bits that have never been seen on a nova in the UK so its taking a while...
It's getting a small block? :confused:

:p ;) lol

Rick Draper
27-03-08, 12:28 AM
Quick update.

Steve has almost finished the engine, its all times up but he is just having to sort out fitting the cam cover as i ****ed up drilling where the lower bolt needs to go in the oil pump for the swindon cam belt cover.

On the shell side, just waiting for a few bits then i will start on it again. Feel it could be on borrowed time as my mate was round earlier in his TVR Sagaris, stunning car and i am very tempted to chop the nova and the ctr in and get one. Either one of those or a new Exige S.

lee coley
27-03-08, 07:22 AM
Chop your car in? webuyanycar.com will offer you 100 quid! lol lol lol

chrisnovaturbo
27-03-08, 08:05 AM
dont sell it !!!!

finish it off first!!!

novacabrio
27-03-08, 08:11 AM
He wont do it

hybridturbo
27-03-08, 11:50 AM
Very small market for ?11k+ novas lol

It will be finished..

Rick Draper
27-03-08, 12:11 PM
I will not sell it yet, want to drive it and use it all summer then i will look and see. Not a cat in hells chance its getting broken before its been used properly in anger.

Adam
27-03-08, 12:50 PM
Not a cat in hells chance its getting broken before its been used properly in anger.
:cool:

CP
27-03-08, 10:35 PM
lol wind up merchant:roll:

Rick Draper
28-03-08, 12:04 PM
lol wind up merchant:roll:

lol Cannot wait to get the engine back, that is what i am waiting for. Once i have that i can finish the wiring for the aim dash. Just need to sort out the clutch setup then its all done.

dan16v
29-03-08, 02:02 PM
Still dragging your heals with the build then mate!.............. lol

Fester
07-04-08, 10:59 PM
Greetings. This is insane, please carry on!

Rick Draper
18-04-08, 11:26 PM
Engine is arriving back tomorrow and going straight back in as soon as i get it. Should have a update by tomorrow afternoon/evening.

Jonlem
19-04-08, 12:07 AM
Nice one Rick, at this point I'm going to put the vodka down and get some sleep as its going to be a long day !

See you for brunch

Rick Draper
19-04-08, 05:06 PM
Well the engine is now back and fitted. Just awaiting other parts and then it can be up and running.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG3029.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG3030.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG3033.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG3034.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG3035.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/CIMG3037.jpg

Riggy
19-04-08, 08:22 PM
i do love it rick :thumb:

Rick Draper
19-04-08, 08:42 PM
i do love it rick :thumb:

Someone has 2 lol

Adam
19-04-08, 08:45 PM
I'll take it off your hands if you dont want it lol

Looking cool
So whats been done then? The new head etc all been fitted?

Rick Draper
19-04-08, 09:01 PM
So whats been done then? The new head etc all been fitted?
Whole new engine!
Same pistons and rods but the following parts are new:
Late coscast head, heavily worked,
+1MM valves with wasted stem inlets,
Solid lifters,
HKS head gasket,
Built by SBS,
ARP main studs,
Z20LEH pump,
20XE block,
Oil sprayers the SBS way.

Aim Dash and the cage.

PS adam the wiring for the clifford aint been looked at by me yet!

Adam
19-04-08, 09:11 PM
Are you planning on looking at it, or cant you be ****d with it?

Rick Draper
19-04-08, 09:21 PM
Are you planning on looking at it, or cant you be ****d with it?

Cannot really be ****d!, might have a quick check of it.

Adam
19-04-08, 09:30 PM
Lol,k.
See how you get on

Novaload_Nick
19-04-08, 10:16 PM
Love the thread.. lots of money being splashed!

kevw
20-04-08, 10:03 AM
Love the thread.. lots of money being splashed!

Rick sleeps on a bed of rolled up £50 notes

Nick J
20-04-08, 12:21 PM
Rick sleeps on a bed of rolled up £50 notes


I think he must do!! Nice to see the motor going back in fella lets hope you have more luck with it this time!

Rick Draper
24-04-08, 08:25 PM
Collected my new manifold today, its going to mean som further mods to the slam panel and the radiator but its well worth it. Its made by Jay at Nortech and is amazing quality. I cannot recommend his work enough.
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3071.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3072.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3073.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3075.jpg
New downpipe with slip jointed wastegate pipe:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3069.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3070.jpg
Fitted to the engine:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3076.jpg
GT30 turbo:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3077.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3078.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3079.jpg

Rick Draper
24-04-08, 08:26 PM
Turbo and manifold bolted up:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3080.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3081.jpg
One Tial 44mm wastegate from Reyland:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3082.jpg
And everything bolted in place to check fit etc:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3083.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3084.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3085.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3086.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3087.jpg

Riggy
24-04-08, 08:29 PM
pure porn

Ste L
24-04-08, 08:32 PM
pure porn


can say that again...


:cool:

Adam
24-04-08, 08:34 PM
Thats one hell of a manifold

Riggy
24-04-08, 08:34 PM
can say that again...


:cool:


pure porn

John
24-04-08, 08:39 PM
wow! stunning!

BRoadGhost
24-04-08, 08:50 PM
So is this car designed for sheer straight line / Top speed?

Rick Draper
24-04-08, 08:52 PM
So is this car designed for sheer straight line / Top speed?

Pretty much flush...

R1CH
24-04-08, 11:07 PM
Manifold does look good like, suprised you haven't had it ceramic coated or summet daft !! what kinda £££ you looking for one ?
What spec GT30 you running (trim - a/r ect ...) ?
Cant be far off now like.

Rich

Rick Draper
01-05-08, 01:19 AM
Its close to firing up now for the first time in months!
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3095.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3096.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3097.jpg
Waiting for a new fan from pro alloy and a few fittings from thin auto
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3098.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3099.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3100.jpg

Mike
01-05-08, 06:54 AM
Fook me that charger is a bloody monster!

Rad's seen better though hasnt it Rick?

Adam
01-05-08, 07:40 PM
Turbo/Manifold/Wastegate setup looks cool as fack

Rick Draper
01-05-08, 09:32 PM
Fook me that charger is a bloody monster!

Rad's seen better though hasnt it Rick?

I have a brand new valeo one in a box in the garage. Will probably fire it up on the old rad though.

John
01-05-08, 09:41 PM
can't wait to see/hear this running!
excellent stuff!

Dave.
01-05-08, 09:47 PM
that manifold is fookin awsome rick.. looks great! :thumb:

chrisnovaturbo
01-05-08, 10:54 PM
looking good. get some videos of it when you fire it up mate.

Rick Draper
01-05-08, 11:47 PM
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/DSC00163.jpg
Thats the ticket.

Providing the aeroquip unions, rad fan and other tat turn up tomorrow i will fire it up.

vaughanmc
02-05-08, 08:25 AM
Good work mate

Looks like a beast of an engine :)

Rick Draper
03-05-08, 12:12 AM
Shocking:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/th_CIMG3103.jpg (http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/?action=view&current=CIMG3103.flv)

NovaLad
03-05-08, 12:20 AM
Kinell.

Adam
03-05-08, 12:35 AM
Cam cover looks cool.

Good to see it alive (again) too :cool:

John
03-05-08, 07:23 AM
sweet!

novacabrio
03-05-08, 09:29 PM
You trying to be like Joff? Where's the running commentry?

CP
04-05-08, 11:08 AM
Shocking:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/th_CIMG3103.jpg (http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/?action=view&current=CIMG3103.flv)


My creation; it lives! With this instrument of brilliant fiendishness I can take over the world - no-one can stop me now; not even ( takes deep breath).... Superman!!!!!! Mwahahahhaha!


Excellent work mate - looking forward to seeing it in the flesh!

Rick Draper
04-05-08, 02:40 PM
Thanks everyone. Hopefully i will not get called into work tomorrow so if not i aim to have it back on its wheels and rolling around.

Jim
04-05-08, 05:10 PM
Excellent stuff Rick. Still can't believe you've allowed that brand new garage to get so cluttered, lol.

One thing though; From getting in the car to turning it over took 32 seconds, I hope you're never in a situation when you have to make a quick getaway, lol ;)

Rick Draper
04-05-08, 05:24 PM
Excellent stuff Rick. Still can't believe you've allowed that brand new garage to get so cluttered, lol.

One thing though; From getting in the car to turning it over took 32 seconds, I hope you're never in a situation when you have to make a quick getaway, lol ;)

Put the wrong code in the clifford pin pad twice lol Remind me whay i have a bloody clifford again!

Dave.
04-05-08, 05:38 PM
that soudns fecking awsome! thats the sort of noise youd hear from a yank tank lol. sounds brilliant rick :thumb:

steveboyslim
04-05-08, 10:13 PM
I bet you were happy to get a tune out of it.

Steve :thumb:

Mike
04-05-08, 10:15 PM
that soudns fecking awsome! thats the sort of noise youd hear from a yank tank lol. sounds brilliant rick :thumb:

Looked like the manifold wasnt joined to the system to me :confused: would explain the noise.

Rick Draper
09-05-08, 10:15 PM
Brum brum:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3242.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3243.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3244.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3245.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3246.jpg

Adam
09-05-08, 10:19 PM
:cool:

vaughanmc
09-05-08, 10:48 PM
Minted :)

Rick Draper
01-06-08, 10:00 PM
Had the hacksaw out today:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/Novaturboprogress301922.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/Novaturboprogress301923.jpg
Strut brace fitted:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/Novaturboprogress301924.jpg
One ****hole of a garage:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/Novaturboprogress301925.jpg

wilson_sri
01-06-08, 10:03 PM
That cage looks great, custom one?

Rick Draper
01-06-08, 10:06 PM
That cage looks great, custom one?

Nope its a fabricage one. I got it off colin smith and it had been wet sprayed purple so i got my mate to blast it and powder it for me in satin black. Came up very well.

wilson_sri
01-06-08, 10:16 PM
Yeh it looks great in black. Has it got a diagonal bar? if so how did you get the rear seats in with it?

Rick Draper
01-06-08, 10:21 PM
Fitted the rear seats before i fitted the cage. It has a removable rear diagonal.
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3287.jpg

dan16v
01-06-08, 10:21 PM
Looks top mate! glad its more or less sorted!, im feeling the urge to cage myne up and strip it out now! lol

chrisnovaturbo
02-06-08, 07:56 AM
will it be done for pv???????

nova ste
02-06-08, 11:06 AM
just read all of this thread this is the best nova ive ever seen absolutley love it hope to see it in the flesh sometime what an ace job you have done

Rick Draper
02-06-08, 04:13 PM
will it be done for pv???????

Nope as i am away at the time of PV.

Shaun
02-06-08, 04:54 PM
lovely motor mate!!!

belly257
02-06-08, 05:35 PM
awsome:thumb:

Rick Draper
02-06-08, 07:06 PM
Thanks. Should have more progress tomorrow....

Adam
02-06-08, 07:12 PM
Good good

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 04:29 PM
Back in the day when a show car was of a high standard and most of you were still in nappies some of us went to trax 2002, proudly displaying WWW.NOVALOAD.NET (http://www.NOVALOAD.NET) stickers:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3296.jpg
However as times have changed it seems like there is little point in been associated with the club anymore, the ideas of members and moderators on stand worthy cars are vastly different to my own.

2 Minutes later on:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3297.jpg

Residue removed:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/CIMG3298.jpg
And so i will end my proud association with Novaload and the PNG. Its a shame its come to this but i dont wish to be associated with chavs or a club with no standards.

Thank you and goodnight

dan16v
11-06-08, 04:32 PM
Rick, go f uck yourself!lol car is not upto show standard anyway! not enough filler.

burgo
11-06-08, 04:36 PM
how sad

hybridturbo
11-06-08, 04:45 PM
lol

General Baxter
11-06-08, 05:30 PM
making room for the new png ones ? lol



Back in the day when a show car was of a high standard and most of you were still in nappies some of us went to trax 2002, proudly displaying WWW.NOVALOAD.NET (http://www.novaload.net/) stickers:

However as times have changed it seems like there is little point in been associated with the club anymore, the ideas of members and moderators on stand worthy cars are vastly different to my own.


trax 2002, was the last time any one saw it, well its not really stand worthy, being in rebuild for the past 20years lol

draper
11-06-08, 05:57 PM
just found these strewn about the room - anyone got an empty pram for them

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/vaux-mad/save.png

Stuart
11-06-08, 06:31 PM
hee hee

http://www.vauxhall-sport-forum.com/phpBB2/vauxsport-stickers-t7046.html

http://www.vauxhall-sport-forum.com/phpBB2/official-vauxsport-stickers-visuals-t5914,start,60.html

trackdaynova
11-06-08, 07:16 PM
What have I missed... ?

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 07:18 PM
trax 2002, was the last time any one saw it, well its not really stand worthy, being in rebuild for the past 20years lol

Actuall a number of people had seen it at Bruntingthorpe last year before it blew up. As it was a invitation only event and for fast novas i guess most of you lot would not have been there :thumb: lol

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 07:19 PM
What have I missed... ?

Similar to you and mig..

burgo
11-06-08, 07:21 PM
so how did you get your invite??

and i like how he has left this site cos we're not quality orientated and so now hes asking for stickers from the least bufty site about :confused:

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 07:27 PM
so how did you get your invite??

and i like how he has left this site cos we're not quality orientated and so now hes asking for stickers from the least bufty site about :confused:

Vauxsport has fast cars on and a appreciation for fabrication and performance. Something most here lack....

General Baxter
11-06-08, 07:30 PM
whats performance tho?

sticking a 2L 16v turbo in and having a fiddle
sticking a 1.6 16v in and having a fiddle,

there the same tbh!

Lee
11-06-08, 07:35 PM
Vauxsport has fast cars on and a appreciation for fabrication and performance. Something most here lack....

You have said you are leaving. I would appreciate it if you would and stopped winding people up.

trackdaynova
11-06-08, 07:38 PM
Similar to you and mig..What, you've moved house, and not had internet connection for the passed 3 months and by the time you got it sorted out you came back onto the forum to people making judgements and making up viscious rumours that you'd left and fell out with everyone, and by which time three months had passed and you thought "whats the point".

When the real story is the fact I hadn't fallen out with anyone, I was still friends with everyone, yet someone made up a nasty rumour?

Seems like these chinese internet whispers are still doing the rounds if, 4 years later people (you) still believe what they've read, and didn't bother asking, nor contacting the person involved (ie: me)

:confused:

Is that the same scenario as this? as I hadn't realised you'd been away in all honesty, and I certainly didn't hurl abuse at people like you're doing, and offending other members of the club, by saying their cars aren't as good as yours.

If it makes at all any difference, I personally think that my car is 10x what yours is, if you want to play childish, and I dare say that most people will tend to agree, and before you say - not just on PNG either.

trackdaynova
11-06-08, 07:42 PM
PS: I've asked if I've missed something, and you've said it's the same as me and MIG... I still don't know whats happened tbh

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 07:43 PM
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/look.jpg

trackdaynova
11-06-08, 07:45 PM
So I'm fat, whats your point?

I can lose weight... sadly you cannot stop being a prick, so it seems.

Stop being childish.

Forget whatevers been bugging you, sort it out with whoever you have beef with - and just carry on...

dan16v
11-06-08, 07:46 PM
May have been from the post in general chat which got deleted, regarding the current state of the vaux show scene! I also gave my veiws on the topic and got shot down/ abuse by some members! think i have been on here long enough to post my opinon though!:roll:

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 07:47 PM
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc66/Draper1981/6u6rmae.jpg

trackdaynova
11-06-08, 07:49 PM
What gets me is, I still don't know whats happened - I've asked a simple question "Whats happened?"

And yet Rick decides to leave a witty/ dig remark thinking he knows the ins and outs to what happened years back with myself and MIGWeb, and turns out he doesn't know anything, least of all the truth.

Then after I've replied with true facts, he decides to have a pop at me. Rather than answering my original question.

Where is the attitude coming from? It was a simple question to start with.

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 08:02 PM
What gets me is, I still don't know whats happened - I've asked a simple question "Whats happened?"

And yet Rick decides to leave a witty/ dig remark thinking he knows the ins and outs to what happened years back with myself and MIGWeb, and turns out he doesn't know anything, least of all the truth.

Then after I've replied with true facts, he decides to have a pop at me. Rather than answering my original question.

Where is the attitude coming from? It was a simple question to start with.

Sorry i did not intend that pic as a dig mate, sorry if its been taken that way. Dont even know you and have never met you so i dont know what size you are..

trackdaynova
11-06-08, 08:12 PM
OK fair enough.

Just strikes me that, you've had some beef with someone, yet rather than sorting it out with that particular person, or people. You've decided to take it upon yourself to throw in your towel with the whole club, start offending other members of the club (as you've already stated, you've never met me)

Saying that our cars aren't as good, as powerful, as shiney as yours (or whatever) is a very bleak look you've made for yourself.

I accept your apology on the pic, I just hope you can have the same mature approach to whoever you have this problem with, as I presume its not all 600+ PNG Members

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 08:22 PM
OK fair enough.

Just strikes me that, you've had some beef with someone, yet rather than sorting it out with that particular person, or people. You've decided to take it upon yourself to throw in your towel with the whole club, start offending other members of the club (as you've already stated, you've never met me)

Saying that our cars aren't as good, as powerful, as shiney as yours (or whatever) is a very bleak look you've made for yourself.

I accept your apology on the pic, I just hope you can have the same mature approach to whoever you have this problem with, as I presume its not all 600+ PNG Members

Nar just 591 as i dont have a issue with myself, Mark, Cambridge, Kev, Dan, Riggy, LeeH, Ian or Dan16v :cry: :cry:

trackdaynova
11-06-08, 08:26 PM
OK, well that tells me you have a problem with me, for what reason I don't know.

The way I see it, or figured it out, someone posted a thread about starting a whip around for Lee after his misfourtune.

You then decided it was in the same vein as when some bloke from another forum ASKED for help after blowing his engine up, and ended the post by calling everyone vvankers, and proceeded to then start another post calling Lee a pikey - again, why I don't know it was a genuinely nice post by a mate of his.

By the way you just compared my situation to yours, it would appear your comparison skills leave a lot to be desired.

Therefore, I am no longer offended at the fact have a problem with me.

As your signature says, 'Thank you and good night'

Ian
11-06-08, 08:28 PM
and i like how he has left this site cos we're not quality orientated and so now hes asking for stickers from the least bufty site about :confused:
as i said to him

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 08:32 PM
You all need to lighten up a bit, is it all of your times of the month? Christ a bit of banter and it all goes tits up.

I dont have a problem wit them lads as i have met them all and they are all people i will and can class as mates. Anyone else how can i call them a mate or say if i like them or not when i have never met them?

Rick Draper
11-06-08, 08:33 PM
as i said to him

**** off hopalong lmao lmao

But VS has performance, JOV, style and class and MIG has Buckets lol

Jonlem
11-06-08, 08:35 PM
Someone give Rick a hug :thumb: lol lol

trackdaynova
11-06-08, 08:35 PM
Anyone else how can i call them a mate or say if i like them or not when i have never met them?I understand your definition of "mates", however... does that mean beacuse I've never met you - I should have a problem with you?

Thats a rather bitter way of life in my opinion, but as said - your choice.

I cant see a problem with banter with your mates. But hurling abuse at people you dont know? I cant see how thats ok at all? This site is one of the friendliest ive been on for the main reason that the admin has worked hard to create that atmosphere. If your unsure if someone will take offence to one of your comments, I suggest you dont post it.

I've been on this site for a 18months now, and have only come across one 'Closed' thread, which shows an excellent atmosphere that needs minimal moderation imo.