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I want to be a bit different with which engine I next put in the Nova. Ive been considering fitting a Rolls Royce Trent 500, but im not too sure on what gearbox / shafts to use.
Does anyone have any info on the conversion? Will I need any different engine mounts?
Someone told me id have to run it on Optimax too, as it may pink a bit on regular unleaded. Is this true? Apparently I could lose up to 4,000 horsepower if im a few Ron under spec?
beat me to it !!!!
make sure the engines at a 32degree angle tho, otherwise the thrust will lift you into the air mid corner just like my mate daves
krobinson
06-01-08, 03:07 PM
A good friend of mine has two of these engines in his Austin Mini, so i'm pretty sure its possible to fit it to a nova, most likely using pot rivots and glue.
paddy138
06-01-08, 03:09 PM
and a bit of silicone aswell
cant beat a bit of gaffer tape too, that'll help hold it in
I think it would actually be easier to fit a nova into the 777 engine..
Philsutton
06-01-08, 03:11 PM
You can get away with the standard rubber mounts, the extra 3000kgs of the engine wont be a problem as vauxhall designed them with big conversions in hand.
Gearbox wise you can use the F10cr off the sr, you'll get amazing acceleration but top out at less than take off speed. I know this as my dads mates sons brother has been driving his round for 15 years like that never broke any boxes. And also you can keep the standard shafts this way. Bonus
shy witness
06-01-08, 03:14 PM
hahahhahahahahahah
paddy138
06-01-08, 03:14 PM
what fuel pump would you nees to run maybe a 1 bar one would be enough
What about cornering? My mates brothers cousin-in-laws uncle tells me they are pants around corners.
Should I fit a big tail with a rudder?
Philsutton
06-01-08, 03:15 PM
yeah 1 bar pressure with about 6 million litres a minute flow rate lol
Philsutton
06-01-08, 03:17 PM
What about cornering? My mates brothers cousin-in-laws uncle tells me they are pants around corners.
Should I fit a big tail with a rudder?
drop it on some G-Max 40mm springs from the halfords bargin bin, as thats what most people ue on the big blocks
Do MVAUX do a kit for this engine? lol lol lol lol
paddy138
06-01-08, 03:19 PM
what about strengthening plates would you need to fit them
i think chris astley is working on a roof mount kit
Philsutton
06-01-08, 03:21 PM
I dont reckon so, looks like you'll have to bodge on a turbo from a maestro and use a couple of pages out the the yellow pages to lower the compression
Feck the roof mount, i want the thing under the bonnet, proper stealth like!
my sisters ex boyfriends step dads brother-in-law dogs old owners mums grandsons cousins nephew has a 737 engine in his Nova, he used blu-tac and sellotape, hes using the SR tank+ pump, he says he gets fuel surge round corner but it handles like its on rails.
Philsutton
06-01-08, 03:23 PM
Feck the roof mount, i want the thing under the bonnet, proper stealth like!
afterburn the badboy up, imagine the respck you'd get at KFC from your 30ft afterburner flames.
This has already been done in a Corsa, see how I have the pictoral evidence
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/Misc/jetcorsa.jpg
i see, wanting the sleeper look lee??
what rad can you use for that then?
This has already been done in a Corsa, see how I have the pictoral evidence
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/Misc/jetcorsa.jpg
ive actually seen an MR2 with a jet engine in tha beack lol!!
Hmm, i see a small problem.
I think the cone on the inlet may stop me being able to obtain full lock turning left. What do you think?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/A380-trent900.JPG/800px-A380-trent900.JPG
Just grind that bit out of the way
Saloony
06-01-08, 03:30 PM
Hmm, i see a small problem.
I think the cone on the inlet may stop me being able to obtain full lock turning left. What do you think?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/A380-trent900.JPG/800px-A380-trent900.JPG
To over come that, just lean into the direction your going, skate board stylie like.
would that make it a Rolls royce nova then??
like the lotus nova that was built a few years ago?
Philsutton
06-01-08, 03:30 PM
fit corsa lower arms to widen the track thus solving your problem
Nice choice of engine!
Here is some info on it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSabZ9BIkc)
I think you will need an engine bay strengthening kit though. May I also suggest 3000lb front springs.
However knowing you this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-I08xLWqM) will happen to it once you are on track.
Of course, silly me.
I was planning on calling it the 'Jet T E' lol
However knowing you this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-I08xLWqM) will happen to it once you are on track.
So your saying chopping the firewall out is a bad idea then?
AFPMSL @ dars jibe at lees ability to break things!!!
Dotn forget to put a bigger Bellend on it..
you guys are mean bxxxxxds. lmao. funny though.keep it up.hahaha
I'm thinking, keep the firewall in. Saftey first:thumb:
I have thought of one stumbling block though. Do you think it will pass the static noise test?
I have also found you a rev counter:thumb:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/ist2_1836294_vw_rev_counter1.jpg
If you cant figure out the wiring, you can either try using a cranking handle, or maybe one of these?
http://i19.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/c7/f3/4fc1_3.JPG
I have also found you a rev counter:thumb:
Does it have a shift light? I plan on limiting the revs to 70750 anyway, as ARP dont make bolts for this engine yet.
Ditch the engine. I have found a better replacement!
I will find you a shiftlight and some RFS bolts. They are more suited to your application. You can even use them with this new suggestion.
All you have to do is invade the hanger at night and knick the baby!
It will be small but powerful:thumb:
Also freshly built, so you have a better chance of it not blowing up:D
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6783/1020487913832593ye4.jpg
is it going to be thrust driven?
i recon you should do it direct drive, through a welded diff to a RWD conversion!!
PMSL Dar. RFS = Really Fecking Strong I take it? lol
Stu, using it as a Turbine engine is a cracking idea! Proper smokey burnouts!
Stanley
06-01-08, 04:08 PM
I have been tackling the same conversion for a few weeks now and have a few question...
Will the speedo drive from a 91 Astra GTE work with my digi dash and the 777 engine/box? Or will i need to convert it to knotts?
Will a powa boozt valve fit?
What inner CVs are best? Ive lined up some Metro GTa ones and they seem to fit ok. Will they be strong enough?
I have a PS2 in my install but im unsure what in-flight-movie to put on. Any ideas?
Cheers
lol Lee you got it in one. Well done :D
As for your in-flight-movie, may I suggest Crash and Burn (http://imdb.com/title/tt0099313/) Looks great :thumb:
If your looking for more performance look no further than here (http://www.ecotekplc.com/products.htm)
Power boost in a can :)
http://www.ecotekplc.com/images/pbsml2.jpg
Also works well as bellend polish:thumb:
Do you have any ideas how your going to connect the stormspring to the ohsmeg valve?
Im going to use a blimey clip. Availiable from Halfords :)
Saloony
06-01-08, 04:20 PM
The ?2.99 ecu chip works well on this, gives a 1000bhp extra
Stanley
06-01-08, 04:22 PM
Ahh you mean a jesus clip.
In the same aisle as jesus handles and foo-foo valves.
I was thinking about welding extra blades onto the turbine with my soldering iron. Opinions?
Also would a set of throttle bodys from a lotus carlton type R fit?
i recomend you get some spare double over head sprocket monifolds as ive heard these are a problem on the engine in question...
luckily oil surge isnt an issue untill 55637263rpm
James P
06-01-08, 04:58 PM
when you get the jet engine working throw some old engine oil in the fans whilst the blade are running and it makes it faster!!!
thats the word on the streets. you get meeeeee
Philsutton
06-01-08, 05:04 PM
http://images.clickmusic.co.uk/pages/pink_shellsuit.jpg
James P
06-01-08, 05:07 PM
ha ha ha ha what ^^^
dont forget to get the BA sticker for it aswell , gives you 15000 extra bhp
Think it would be wise to use a 6 stud setup from a frontera TBH
If your going to the effort of fitting that engine, it would be rude not to use some NOS, but i've been told you get similar results from CO2 injection ;)
I'd say goto chippedUK for a blindin remap init.
dont forget you would need the transponder and flight recorder as without these you have one immobilised engine. Unless you go aftermarket of course
I have already made a black box from an old kareoke machine, so thets sorted!
coombsey
06-01-08, 05:46 PM
no one thought of 4x4?
Dont be silly. A Vauxhall transfer box with eleventy thousand pounds of thrust going through it?
Get reall ffs, how stupid are you?
Phil suggeusted using a F10CR so can remain originla shafts, and Stu16VT recommended rear wheel drive thorugh welded diff.
(were ignoring fact its a thrust engine) lol,
No, it was Stu's idea to run it like a turbine engine, much like a helicopter :)
Im still laughing at the 4x4 idea. Way too much work and pointless!!!
how about like the old steam engine trains, use some sort of bars to join the wheels to make a 4x4 system?
Ignore the fact it wouldnt turn, use someones idea from earlier to steer it like you steer a skateboard, by leaning?
Lmao what has this website come to everyones gone bonkers!
General Baxter
06-01-08, 06:04 PM
if people get me the parts ill give it ago lol
Lmao what has this website come to everyones gone bonkers!
No no paul, this topic is a relfection/pi$$take of what this site has come to
especially of late with recent topics!
stupid questions = stupid answers after all!!!
CoolTiger
06-01-08, 06:14 PM
i recomend putting the boot on a popper and a hydrilic ram then you can use it as a air break
novacabrio
06-01-08, 06:16 PM
havent read all 7 pages, but I think cable ties may come in handy, have you also thought about some strengthening? youd probably need some 16v brakes, but I dont see the point? It'll still be a Nova, why not fit a airbus a380 lump?
Is this a young Razorjack?
http://images.clickmusic.co.uk/pages/pink_shellsuit.jpg
Thats a Trent 900 iirc, its too new and the wiring would be too complicated.
Philsutton
06-01-08, 06:30 PM
It'll still be a Nova, why not fit a airbus a380 lump?
too true, it would still be a crap, poorly made, rotten nova at the end of the day and you will always get laughed at regardless
Thats a Trent 900 iirc, its too new and the wiring would be too complicated.
ah, it's not on the ghay CANbus stuff is it? :roll:
novacabrio
06-01-08, 07:21 PM
wiring cant be to hard, get some scotch locks
Is this a young Razorjack?
http://images.clickmusic.co.uk/pages/pink_shellsuit.jpg
Lmfao, even I looked at that pic and said to myself "I don't remember wearing that" lol
Saloony
06-01-08, 08:52 PM
But what we really want to know now it will it pass an mot??
But what we really want to know now it will it pass an mot??
yeah course MOT inspector doesnt need to look under the bonnet :roll:
Saloony
06-01-08, 09:12 PM
yeah course MOT inspector doesnt need to look under the bonnet :roll:
Of course not... christ it doesnt even need to go on the ramp.
Not if you know the right peoplelol
dhdev (Oli)
06-01-08, 09:25 PM
With a 777 engine up front your gonna need a scooby scoop to get the cold air in and you'll wanna put the battery in the boot otherwise it'll affect the handling. My mate used cable ties to hold the battery and some RCA leads (oxygen free) to connect it up :thumb:
Too late mate - I've already got jet engines strapped to my tractor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyzMlPZavrg&feature=related
Think my neighbour might fail his emissions test at the local farming MOT station.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGtOM1R6wOc&NR=1
In this clip we see that the operator has taken the importance of running an engine rich to avoid detonation to heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8yy-7lG7Xg&NR=1
and ive already put one in my bike
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=efID00W3F7I&feature=related
Talk about a common conversion! I think you should do something 'different'
I jet powered my chair (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DDzlmNf8cCk).
beat ya to it dar.. this was my 1st conversion
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv7kBu713V8&feature=related
theres always my go kart??
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PQpX_4LEFKA&NR=1
god been a kit was fun lol
So you see Lee, the moral to this story is no matter how barmy/expensive/stupid/dangerous/planet destroying/mother ****ing mad an idea you can think of for a Nova conversion, some 1 eyed yokel has already not only had a wet dream of an idea but actually gone out and built it.lol lol
smcgsi16v
07-01-08, 12:04 AM
Looks like your sh1t out of luck Lee. What about trying to fit a bigger vauxhall engine in your Nova, may be a bit easier; say a C20xe from a Cavalier or Astra. Cant remember seeing that done.
Might make the car a bit front heavy tho, and Ive heard their not very reliable and blow up a bit.
No forget about it, silly idea.
what about a V6 from a cav/cally
or maybe go the whole hog and fit a lotus carlton engine
NovaLad
07-01-08, 12:10 AM
Make nova as light weight as poss and fitt pedals like on a bike just for the comedy factor lol.
clarke frazer
07-01-08, 12:50 AM
pissen myself
what about a V6 from a cav/cally
or maybe go the whole hog and fit a lotus carlton engine
thats already been done, i know for a fact 100% as someone told me so, so it must be true:tumble:
say a C20xe from a Cavalier or Astra.
Surely a smallblock engine, a 1.6 perhaps, would be far better? Someone please advise.
surely the bigger the engine the faster it will be
surely the bigger the engine the faster it will be
Correct-a-mundo and a 27l Merlin engine conversion is looking so tempting at the moment.
do it dar
colin chapman was SOOOO wrong when he talked about light = fast
This is what you need:
http://titanic-model.com/db/graphics/hahn/intropic.JPG
One of Titanic's engines lol
I like where your going with that RJ but I think that maybe a little on the large side :(
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/rta96c_crank.jpg
Or do they get teeny tiny people to work on these ship engines?
http://leaguefreak.playiirl.com/images/Umpa.jpg
Philsutton
07-01-08, 12:16 PM
Now were talking, it would seriously fly with that badboy in. Although youd need some crazy gearbox as dont those things only rev to 500-1000rpm?
Im not so sure myself, that crank doesnt look lightened and balanced.
Plus if i blew that one up, the piece of crank case that blows off would be the size of a house. The combe marshalls really wouldnt like me much then at all!
The combe marshalls really wouldnt like me much then at all!
They dont anyway so crack on
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