View Full Version : lotus carlton powered nova, rumour? true?
heard a story that once upon a time there was a little wide arched nova (street racing in notts/brumingham) powered by a lotus carlton engine, just wondering if anyone can back this story up and/or if anyone has any pics?
Big_Chap
05-01-08, 03:57 AM
absolute myth
novacabrio
05-01-08, 08:25 AM
Myth or dream? lol
think about what you have just said....... a lotus carlton engine in a nova...... i think not
Kev Turbo
05-01-08, 10:46 AM
heard it all now!
General Baxter
05-01-08, 10:47 AM
have you seen the size of the engine and gearbox, its about the length of a nova lol
there was a little wide arched nova
I think it would have to be a big wide arched Nova to fit a C36GET and gearbox (which is the same as a Chevrolet Corvette C4 iirc). Whoever told you that - punch them next time you see them, then punch yourself for falling for it.
wasn't someone off corsasport putting one in a corsa b? i think there was a pic of the tunnel after it was fitted in tv a while back .
wasn't someone off corsasport putting one in a corsa b? i think there was a pic of the tunnel after it was fitted in tv a while back .wasnt that pic photoshopped??
Next they'll be telling you someone has put a Supra engine in a 205
Next they'll be telling you someone has put a Supra engine in a 205
lol
Id have thought that much power in a nova would be ridiculous even if it was true!
Next they'll be telling you someone has put a Supra engine in a 205
Ahem, Lee Mitchum's already on that one, along with the Jag V12 powered Citroen Visa.
Next they'll be telling you someone has put a Supra engine in a 205
Oh god not that thing! lol
Probably kept in spain with the field of brand new nova shells.
wasnt that pic photoshopped??
i don't think it was but don't hold me to that,there was a thread on corsasport but you had to be a paying member to view it so i never got the chance to find out if it was real or not
Meh, probably was one post about the car and 1,000 replies discussing hair care and self-beautification products
people said (and still try to tell me) that you cant put an xe/let/v6 in a nova, peopl said that you cant make a non 4x4 hatchback 4x4, but its been done, a company in leicester put a jag v12 in a corsa b and made it rear wheel drive, to put an xe in a mini you have to lenghthen the front end, a bloke round the corner from me chopped a ford anglia down the middle an made it a foot wider then made the front end a foot longer so that he could easily fit a big block in, think about what YOU lot are saying, anything can be done with time effort and money, so all i asked was a curious question and got stupid sarcastic answers.....
^ to true.
Anything is possible, wether it be reality or theory, you CAN fit any engine/running gear onto any car, its just going about it is the pain in the ass.
^ to true.
Anything is possible, wether it be reality or theory, you CAN fit any engine/running gear onto any car, its just going about it is the pain in the ass.
thank you, someone with some sense who isnt just being a sheep and following on with the cocky answers everyone else gave
the anglia you say about is it matt black?
I dont think the question is wether its possible, its more about wether its viable.
IMO it would be a complete waste of time and effort, but then I have the same opinion about the 4x4 being built as we speak.
So at the end of the day you just need someone with a big enough wallet, and the fabrication skills to do it, and also someone who wants to end up with a car that would be pretty much hopelessly undriveable lol
dont get me wrong im not shooting my wad into a roll of tissue about this car, i just wanted to know if it was true or not, but i guess you cant be curious without being called a fool :confused:
the anglia you say about is it matt black?
no the anglia was pale green, the original common anglia colour i believe, unless you put 2 anglias together you couldnt tell he had done it
I'm sure there was a photoshop of a Lotus Carlton engine in a Nova but I'm not aware of a conversion being done. Hence the sarcastic answers.
Anything is possible, for eaxmple how about a Rover SD1 with a 27l Meteor engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-aC5B348rA)
thats insane, and proves my point anything CAN be done
Im pretty sure a Merlin in a Nova would be pushing it.
Or a Rolls Royce Trent 500 :)
ohmigodimsooofugginboredofthisshiiiittttt
it'd be all very well and good slapping the engine in (although costing a fair whack) but imagine the weight of the block . It would never ever ever take a corner AND the shell would probrably snap under the pressure ..
dont get me wrong im not shooting my wad into a roll of tissue about this car, i just wanted to know if it was true or not, but i guess you cant be curious without being called a fool :confused:
no the anglia was pale green, the original common anglia colour i believe, unless you put 2 anglias together you couldnt tell he had done itin that case theres two widened 4x4 anglias as a bloke i know has got one aswell lol
scampy aka j
05-01-08, 02:44 PM
lol be very nice to see if someone has done it ,i dout it though
ANDYRACER
05-01-08, 03:26 PM
Anyone remember the lad that put a spitfire engine in an old talbot avenger estate, was on top gear? lol
I suppose the real question is when does a car cease being a car and becomes instead an ICBM
An LC powered Nova would probably go round corners worse than a Cruise missilelol
ive seen a morris minor with a 200sx floor pan,engine etc.
who remembers that guy twho tried to tell us he seen a skyline engine in a nova?
ive seen a morris minor with a 200sx floor pan,engine etc
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=219069 :thumb:
If anyone ever chopped up a LC for the engine, Id chop their nuts off!
If anyone ever chopped up a LC for the engine, Id chop their nuts off!
lol it would be criminal, but what if you had a wedge in your pocket and your came across an un-repairable written off LC... be very tempting if you dared to take on such a project
An LC powered Nova would probably go round corners worse than a Cruise missilelol
lol true, and i bet the stupidly fast road legal victor corners about the same, still impressive....
lol it would be criminal, but what if you had a wedge in your pocket and your came across an un-repairable written off LC... be very tempting if you dared to take on such a project
id put it in a mk2 astra van/eastate
stoza2007
05-01-08, 06:07 PM
myth
rich_cooper
05-01-08, 08:34 PM
I live in Notts and ive never seen or heard of a carlton engined nova around here
Philsutton
06-01-08, 11:19 AM
PMSL there is no LC powered nova round here an there never was. If someone one ever did do such a thing the carlton boys would probably find an kill you for doing such a thing.
Just because someone told you there was one doesnt mean there is, I mean I had someone claim to be able to 200mph in 3rd gear in a standard 2lt nova and that by putting a 150bhp engine into a lighter car the engine then produced 6 million bhp. Its doesnt work like that but you try telling a spaz that.
I also had some little chavs claim that his brothers 2.5 V6 vectra would smoke my corsa on top speed, yet again a 200mph car out of the factory for vauxhall. It wasnt even the 3lt one lmfao, tool.
If anyone ever chopped up a LC for the engine, Id chop their nuts off!
I know someone that chopped one up for fun.....
Well it was worth more in bits.
who remembers that guy twho tried to tell us he seen a skyline engine in a nova?
lmfao, yes :D
Surely putting a LC engine in a Nova would seriously devalue the LC engine lol
I love this ' if somebody found a crash damaged LC' idea.
Let me put it to you that if a lotus carlton crashed, it would not exactly be a rear ender now would it??????? The front would be totalled & then the engine would be useless cos it would cost ?5000 to get bits to put it right.
Final nail in this myth.. The 3.6 6pot engine was loosely based on the 6 pot gm engine which in turn was basically 1 1/2 gm big block 4 cylinder engines. We have all seen pictures of rwd rally novas/corsas with redtops in & the back spark plug is under the dash, so if you fitted a 6pot 24v twin turbo, the rear turbo would be somewhere near your groin.
DTR-DEVIL
06-01-08, 01:21 PM
^ Ha well said.
Sorry to change subject. But has anyone heard of other cars that have had a LC conversion? not just nova's??
If anyone ever chopped up a LC for the engine, Id chop their nuts off!
I know someone that chopped one up for fun.....
Well it was worth more in bits.
What a nutter! I suppose he has a spare but I like having two myself.
Who do you sell the bits too? I can't see my local curry house paying much for a chopped up gonad:wtf:
Final nail in this myth.. The 3.6 6pot engine was loosely based on the 6 pot gm engine
The LC block is the same as a carlton gsi one, the bore+pistons are the same diameter, its the stroke which is longer to produce the extra 600cc :)
Who do you sell the bits too?
As Dar said, where did the bits go, tbh I've never heard of a C36GET in anything other than a Carlton, and theyre just not the same in a GSi one etc
Paul
ps. the lotus carlton was built in a fairly unique way. they shipped fully built carlton gsi's to norfolk, stripped them out & stuck all the lotussy bits in. the leftovers were sent back to the carlton factory & stuck on new ones.
So it doesn't need a rocket scientist to work out that if you crash a lc, you go & get a carlton (available in most autotraders from a fat bloke called Dave) & rebuild it
The LC block is the same as a carlton gsi one, the bore+pistons are the same diameter, its the stroke which is longer to produce the extra 600cc :)
Paul
I think that fitting a new crank, rods, pistons, flywheel, head & turbos could qualify as loosely based.
the original idea was for a proper grand touring car championship, & the car had to be production based, thus the stock block. Unfortunately, the idea was shelved but the lc was made
So it doesn't need a rocket scientist to work out that if you crash a lc, you go & get a carlton (available in most autotraders from a fat bloke called Dave) & rebuild it
lol Class!
still yawning at this
its facking comical
So it doesn't need a rocket scientist to work out that if you crash a lc, you go & get a carlton (available in most autotraders from a fat bloke called Dave) & rebuild it
I know Dave, top bloke, likes beer:thumb:
Philsutton
06-01-08, 01:49 PM
lol, for those arguing it is possible, yes it is. There is a guy running round in a tank engined SD1 FFS, LMFAO
No doubt its possible.
If you can put a jet engine in a beetle, you can put a LC engine in a Nova lol
Philsutton
06-01-08, 02:00 PM
indeed but who is going to spend all that time an money to try an make an inferior vehicle faster lol
d171jvf
06-01-08, 02:03 PM
i know someone with a wrx sti engine doing about 350bhp in an old bug...
not that its of any relavance, but that thing is scary.
common conversion that is, if my sources are correct i think its only the gearbox mount that needs modifying?
d171jvf
06-01-08, 02:43 PM
something like that, and with the engine being slightly bigger, a hole needs to be cut in the rear bench.
something like that, and with the engine being slightly bigger, a hole needs to be cut in the rear bench.
And all of the intercooling & radiators & fuel injection
Aye, same as the good old 911 conversion, much like jamie olivers camper. They're all made of chocolate though, despite sounding nice, pistons lying down has always been a stupid idea lol
I think thats why i respect Porsche so much tbh. They took a flat 4 engine (bad idea), cooled it with air (stupid idea) and hung it over the back (even worse idea), and instead of giving up because it was one of the worst cars on the planet, they persevered, and now the 911 is one of the best handling cars with one of the best engines you csan buy, and its still an air cooled flat 4 hanging over the back.
Restecpa!
d171jvf
06-01-08, 02:57 PM
amen to that!
Not air cooled anymore lee!
OH COME ON a 911 is car porn, it is not a real everyday car.....
It gets sold to rich wideboys or old codgers.
we have to take their word that it handles great & for the price they charge, the damn thing ought to.
Even Porsche brought out the 928 as a replacement because they thought the original 911 was dated, but people just kept buying the 911s...
lolA 911's are still not 'great' handling cars and 99% of the people who own them can't drive them to anywhere near their limit. However that 1% make the things dance, which is beautiful to watch (http://www.leechvideo.com/video/view1821190.html). They have got sooooo much better in recent years due to Porsche fine tuning them.
I also beg to differ on the everyday car comment as well. They are very good and reliable cars. Therefore they are used as everyday cars by shed loads of people.
Not air cooled anymore lee!
Good point, my mistake.
I love this ' if somebody found a crash damaged LC' idea.
Let me put it to you that if a lotus carlton crashed, it would not exactly be a rear ender now would it??????? The front would be totalled & then the engine would be useless
what a c*ck so because someone i know had an immensly powered scooby, when he wrote it off it meant he must of smashed the front end up, errm no he lost control and wrapped the car round a pole nearly splitting it in half, but i suppose if you had a 3.6 litre twin turbo rear wheel drive super car there would be no chance of going into a spin would there:roll:
^^^ true...
nothing stoppind someone driving up the back of you either
Philsutton
06-01-08, 03:32 PM
what a c*ck so because someone i know had an immensly powered scooby, when he wrote it off it meant he must of smashed the front end up, errm no he lost control and wrapped the car round a pole nearly splitting it in half, but i suppose if you had a 3.6 litre twin turbo rear wheel drive super car there would be no chance of going into a spin would there:roll:
either way it was written off because he couldnt drive
lol true but do you see my point, once again people are being foolish e.g in the first place THIS CAN NOT BE DONE but look at the meteor sd1 proving that anything is possible with time effort and money, and a lotus carlton MUST of had a front ender because its fast, errr no i think not
Still people find it very tricky to understand Mowgli's sense of humour lol
Take a chill pill :)
Just because someone told you there was one doesnt mean there is, I mean I had someone claim to be able to 200mph in 3rd gear in a standard 2lt nova and that by putting a 150bhp engine into a lighter car the engine then produced 6 million bhp. Its doesnt work like that but you try telling a spaz that.
im not here sayin 'my friend told me this so i think its true now can i see a pic' i was asking if anyone else hasd ever heard of or knew anything about this
Still people find it very tricky to understand Mowgli's sense of humour lol
Take a chill pill :)
He has a sense of humor? Show me, go on prove it!
I think the rarefied air you supping at your altitude is making you hillucinatelol
What a nutter! I suppose he has a spare but I like having two myself.
Who do you sell the bits too? I can't see my local curry house paying much for a chopped up gonad:wtf:
The guy i know breaks performance cars for a living, so its just cash to him.
Sold the parts on ebay like all his other parts. If you own a lotus carlton where do you get second hand parts from? The parts sold really quickly, not often they come up.
What are you talking about?
I was on about the post where you talked about your mate chopping off a nut 'for fun!'. Reread my post ;) I wonldn't call a LC an GONADlol
What are you talking about?
I was on about the post where you talked about your mate chopping off a nut 'for fun!'. Reread my post ;) I wonldn't call a LC an GONADlol
Never mentioned chopping nuts off, he did chop up a lotus carlton.
Re-read the origonal that I quoted. It could be read two ways;) I thought it would be amusing to read it the 'other' way to lighten the mood a bit. However I have failed spectacularly again:(
staggy_gsi
06-01-08, 05:08 PM
lol lol lol
there was a german kadett C with a lc engine.. i'd didn't live long.. it was just to much power.
he had to make the kadett nose about 20cm longer!!
heard a story that once upon a time there was a little wide arched nova (street racing in notts/brumingham) powered by a lotus carlton engine, just wondering if anyone can back this story up and/or if anyone has any pics?
Read Burgo's signature :p
heard a story that once upon a time there was a little wide arched nova (street racing in notts/brumingham) powered by a lotus carlton engine, just wondering if anyone can back this story up and/or if anyone has any pics? Read Burgo's signature :p
:tosser: lol
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