View Full Version : Useless but very informative Nova Trivia thread.
Novasport
18-12-07, 03:07 PM
Seen this on Astramk2.com and it worked quite well.
You have to post any information about Vauxhall Novas no matter how small.
For example...
The Nova was called the Opel Corsa in Europe mainly because 'no va' means no go in Spanish!
The grey plastics changed colour in the 1987 facelift from grey to blue/grey
Early mk1 door handles do not fit later doors & the doors themselves have been superceded about 3 times!
Did you know they did a yellow interior for the mark 2 in Europe:wtf: It had yellow/grey seats and sun visors, yellow gearknob and yellow dash control knobs!
There are 2x versions of the Nova Sport brochure but both have the same part number
Etc...
craig green
18-12-07, 03:10 PM
The thread for the oil filter was changed to a metric thread from imperial in 1985.
Novasport
18-12-07, 03:16 PM
The thread for the oil filter was changed to a metric thread from imperial in 1985.
About engine number 194.... onwards iirc. Been trying to find an early 1.3 block for a while now with no luck:(
Mint FRST
18-12-07, 03:39 PM
About engine number 194.... onwards iirc. Been trying to find an early 1.3 block for a while now with no luck:(
You never said, my bro has an 84 Sr engine in his garage:confused: Any use?
The Nova was called the Opel Corsa in Europe mainly because 'no va' means no go in Spanish!
LMFAO I doubt it was called nova for THAT reason.... never mind.
the LM edition novas are the rarest and most sought after models. Pay super top dolla for them!
Lotus NEVER made a special nova, no matter how many times you post the mag fature with a nova covered in Lotus badges.
e/w was a optional extra on the gte and came standard on the gsi
Front Foglights and Heated seats were an optional extra in some European countries.
Novasport
18-12-07, 04:22 PM
Electric mirrors were an optional extra but it only operated the passenger mirror on the mk1(The drivers was still a manual adjustment)
Airconditioning was also a dealer fit option aswell!!!
craig green
18-12-07, 04:31 PM
Airconditioning was also a dealer fit option aswell!!!
Me want! :p
The Nova was called the Opel Corsa in Europe mainly because 'no va' means no go in Spanish!
LMFAO I doubt it was called nova for THAT reason.... never mind.
true, it's just like Asconda C = mk2 cav, Vectra A = mk3 Cav, Kadett E = Mk2 Astra & Omega A = Carlton
Novasport
18-12-07, 05:21 PM
Novas were never built in Britain:roll:
They were built in Zaragova, Spain. They used to come with a 'Made in Spain' sticker in the windscreen.
matthew172
18-12-07, 05:23 PM
Novas were never built in Britain:roll:
i thought the early ones were? or is that just a roumer?
Novasport
18-12-07, 05:50 PM
I think its just one of those silly rumours!
They would not tool up a production line & presses for panels in two different places then stop after a short period. There is no evidence that any were produced over here.
Novasport
18-12-07, 05:51 PM
Apperently the guy that sprayed the corrosion protection on was on long term sick from 1983 through to 1993lol
just vaux trev
18-12-07, 05:59 PM
didnt gte's have electric windows standard on a g plate..../\ lol
what im saying is im sure they didnt call the corsa A a nova PURELY because it meant no go in spanglish.
It was probably renamed as we really werent euro friendly back then lol
what im saying is im sure they didnt call the corsa A a nova PURELY because it meant no go in spanglish.
It was probably renamed as we really werent euro friendly back then lol
also Nova DOESN'T mean no go in spanish..
nova = nova(or it novates, depending which translator you use) - in spanish...
no va = does not go - which is not the same
:thumb:
didnt gte's have electric windows standard on a g plate..../\ lol
Yep...
Option on pre 88 models
Novasport
18-12-07, 07:06 PM
The Nova was called the Opel Corsa in Europe mainly because 'no va' means no go in Spanish!
also Nova DOESN'T mean no go in spanish..
nova = nova(or it novates, depending which translator you use) - in spanish...
no va = does not go - which is not the same
:thumb:
No va = Not going which is the same as no go, so whats your point?
:mf:
true, it's just like Asconda C = mk2 cav, Vectra A = mk3 Cav, Kadett E = Mk2 Astra & Omega A = Carlton
BTW, you need to learn how to spell Ascona before trying to pick fault with other people my friend
No va = Not going which is the same as no go, so whats your point?
:mf:
BTW, you need to learn how to spell Ascona before trying to pick fault with other people my friend
yes 'no va' does mean that, BUT "Nova" doesn't...
and WOW i spelt a name of a car wrong, sorry for not being perfect like yourself :thumb:
and PS, im not picking fault's, im stating fact's
Novasport
18-12-07, 07:17 PM
So who were you picking fault with then?!?
how am i picking a fault, by saying the the nova was called a corsa, just like other vaux model's had different opel names?
anyway, back on topic
im not here to argue :D
Novasport
18-12-07, 07:28 PM
also Nova DOESN'T mean no go in spanish..
nova = nova(or it novates, depending which translator you use) - in spanish...
no va = does not go - which is not the same
:thumb:
Let me remind you fella, that ^^^ ring any bells?:wtf:
i was only saying that they are both differernt thing's...
anyway, back on topic
im not here to argue :D
Novasport
18-12-07, 07:32 PM
Vauxhall were able to tell the future, they put Burberry check seats in nearly 20 years before the Chav!!
Pity they didn't fore see em fookin rusting awaylol
was sunroof's an option on sr/sri's
seen some with out them, seen some with tilt and side's and some with just push up version's
Early Mk1 nova's (Y-C reg i think) had a different boot to rest of the model's..
they had a door style lock, rest had a grab handle/plinth thingy with push button lock
Ooh yeah, my Nova has a 'special' boot lol... Looks well better IMO
<< Erm, also has a 'special' door LMFAO
It was called Nova in the UK, as there was already a corsa on the market, the Toyota Corsa!!
Novasport
18-12-07, 07:41 PM
Nova Sport seat design is called Daytona Check
SRi models were called "Joy" in the rest of Europe
The boot floor of my '82 registered is different from all others I have seen (nobody could explain until now why!!)
Air conditioning was the rarest option, followed by opening rear 1/4s
E-mirrors were available for MK1 on passenger side, and for MK2 on both sides
Front fog lights for MK2 were available
Novas were NEVER built in UK
The Spider prototyp from Geneva was only a rolling bodyshell, no engine and no steering
I'll stop now, otherwise the list will be too long lollollol
The choke button was on the dash for the rest of Europe, in UK it was near the steering column
carry on Steve..
that's the whole idea of the thread :D
The choke button was on the dash for the rest of Europe, in UK it was near the steering column
any pic's of that, im curious where on the dash they was, cant say i've noticed before, when looking at an interior pic of a left hooker
Novasport
18-12-07, 07:56 PM
The boot floor of my '82 registered is different from all others I have seen (nobody could explain until now why!!)
Go on?
vaughanmc
18-12-07, 07:57 PM
See where the fuse-box cover is on the Mk2 dash, theres like a little cubby hole/shelf thing
On the left hand drive ones it was in the top corner of that iirc...
novacabrio
18-12-07, 08:01 PM
Nova sports never came with the Astra GTE brakes promised in the brochure
Steve Thompson Cars in Lichfeild and Walsall was the only place in the Uk that sold Irmscher Spiders
Only 6 right hand drives spiders ever got build, earliest was a B reg, latest being a F reg
Novasport
18-12-07, 08:02 PM
RHD brakes were rubbish partly because of the pedal linkage to the servo on the other side of the car rather than a direct link on LHD cars
vaughanmc
18-12-07, 08:03 PM
Three things I always wondered as well...
1. Did all Nova diesels come with anti-roll bars?
2. Was the Nova diesel shells strengthened?
3. Did all Nova saloons come with anti roll bars?
Jim Mcrae
18-12-07, 08:04 PM
Didnt some euro novas have heated seats as an option?? Or am i going mental?
Didnt some euro novas have heated seats as an option?? Or am i going mental?
yep, in the colder country's
Tin Worm was an OE part fitted back in 1983
K reg SR's are very rare
Sunroof's in Mk2 SR's were optional extras
I have a pair of Irmscher side skirts in my garage
My neighbour has 13 dogs
Jim Mcrae
18-12-07, 08:30 PM
The steering wheel is not in line with the drivers seat lol
Matt Pickering
18-12-07, 08:34 PM
The steering wheel is not in line with the drivers seat lol
Due to the angle of the rack!
its another LHD - RHD thing isn't it?
novacabrio
18-12-07, 08:35 PM
I have a pair of Irmscher side skirts in my garage
I have 2 pairs in my garage
its another LHD - RHD thing isn't it?
it's not inline on the LHD's either...
dont forget the dash is basically a mirror image of a RHD one
Just a ****e design then lol
I have 2 pairs in my garage
I bet you paid a hell of a lot more for yours then i did for mine though lol
novacabrio
18-12-07, 08:42 PM
no both free!! with cars and fitted by the factory
no both free!! with cars and fitted by the factory
Not a bad price, although you had to purchase the car to start with, so technically not free?
Just a ****e design then lol
it followed onto the corsa too, as that's slightly off too, damn vauxhall lol
I have a NEW set of Irmscher skirts in my garage
And a new rear bumper
bloody show off's with your irmy stuff lol
dave.gsi
18-12-07, 08:58 PM
theres a massive feild full of mint.......................
oh no, thats a lie lol
NOV4_SPORT
18-12-07, 09:02 PM
lol at post above
iain
NOV4_SPORT
18-12-07, 09:03 PM
any pics of them mate ?
iain
when you had a minor bump in an early mk1 (with the one piece grille & bumper) the front grille looked like rod hull's Emu in a bad mood, but removing it & hitting it back out with a soft hammer cured it without my mum ever finding out, back in 1986........
early mk1's had a 1 peice bumper grill
late mk1's and 2 peice bumper 7 grill
the mk1 saloon's had a different grill than hatch's on - like a cross hatch style
2 door saloon's only came in mk1's iirc
saloon's and 5door's have different arches to 3 door hatchbacks
Ok, give me a few minutes, will post pics!!!!!!!!
just vaux trev
18-12-07, 09:15 PM
i can't bring myself to scrap 1 had about 15
and never sent one to scrap yard
oh no, thats a lie lol
Here we go
New primered rear bumper
http://www.opel-corsa-a.com/Irmscher_Bumper1.JPG
and new skirts
http://www.opel-corsa-a.com/Irmscher_Skirts.JPG
Any questions?? If I say "I have it in my garage" then I have it!!!!
Novasport
18-12-07, 09:56 PM
Ahh right OK, rub it in why dont ya Steve!!
Coloured heater and headlight knobs were an optional extra on MK2's. You could have blue or red.
Nova sports were delivered to the dealers with the Irmischer engine parts and decals in the boot! It was up to the dealers to fit them, therefore some were sold with these not fitted.
NOV4_SPORT
18-12-07, 10:02 PM
Here we go
New primered rear bumper
http://www.opel-corsa-a.com/Irmscher_Bumper1.JPG
and new skirts
http://www.opel-corsa-a.com/Irmscher_Skirts.JPG
Any questions?? If I say "I have it in my garage" then I have it!!!!
was not in any doubt you have what you said you hade lol, was just ckecking that it was irmscher skirts i had mate, thanks
iain
Coloured heater and headlight knobs were an optional extra on MK2's. You could have blue or red.
they came standard on mk2 sr/sri/flair's :thumb:
let_nova
18-12-07, 10:04 PM
was in feurteventura in november and i saw 3 gte's with leather gte seats!!! think i took a pic of the seats and most of the others i seen. if anybody want to c them?
Yes, right
@Iain: ok, no prob, maybe got it wrong
white nova's were by far the best ones :thumb:
Saloony
18-12-07, 10:08 PM
3. Did all Nova saloons come with anti roll bars? No, the 993cc didnt have any. Mine didnt and still doesnt.
Real leather? that's new for me
Vinyl was available in beige until 1985 and in black until 1988
vaughanmc
18-12-07, 10:12 PM
No, the 993cc didnt have any. Mine didnt and still doesnt.
Kool, but did the bigger engine'd ones have them?
yes, they were available in 18, 20 and 22mm diameter, braces were also different ones
ste porter
18-12-07, 10:27 PM
gsi's had different rear window surounds
the seat belt plastic coweling on the pillor is different on a mk1 to a mk2
they did produce a black mk1 dash but cannot remember what models these were fitted to
Saloony
18-12-07, 10:28 PM
Novas didnt have active areodymanics fitted as standard.. They came in later years in what is commonly known as rust.
ste porter
18-12-07, 10:33 PM
i thought that was the weight saving option
Novas didnt have active areodymanics fitted as standard.. They came in later years in what is commonly known as rust.
that was the great thinking of gm, when they designed the nova lol
Saloony
18-12-07, 10:38 PM
i thought that was the weight saving option
Yeah same thing different gravy lol
Yeah vaux knew how to make cars back in the day.
TD havew different engine mounts to petrol engines
this may/may not be a rumour, mk2 rar arches slightly wider than mk1?
this may/may not be a rumour, mk2 rar arches slightly wider than mk1?
Its true
Jim Mcrae
18-12-07, 11:25 PM
5mm i believe
Novasport
18-12-07, 11:27 PM
They used different offset wheels on GSi(47.5mm) compared to GTE(49mm).
oh i was going to say thats why my wheel scrub but they both have been redo at some point. nova dimonds on mk1 came with lezzy windows and a gte streeing wheel and no cig lighter
The Corsa A MK1 was sold in Jamaica
It was NOT sold in Australia (even if there are some rumors)
There were plans to sell the Nova MK1 in Japan, it was even in a brochure, as the Opel 100 and Opel 130 (the SR), but was never sold
From August 1982 to February 1983, the Corsa was only sold in Spain and France. From March 1983 on in all other european countries
They never made any 1.3 mk2 Nova's...
vaughanmc
19-12-07, 10:45 AM
Early Nova GL's (A and B reg) had 6-dial clocks from the SR and the C and D reg Nova GL came with 4-dial clocks like from an Antibes...
Early Nova GL's (A and B reg) had 6-dial clocks from the SR and the C and D reg Nova GL came with 4-dial clocks like from an Antibes...
They also had extra sound proofing over any other Nova!:thumb:
Would love our old GL back, but it's probably baled by now!!!
vaughanmc
19-12-07, 11:09 AM
How come they had extra sound proofing?
Novasport
19-12-07, 11:49 AM
They also had extra sound proofing over any other Nova!:thumb:
Would love our old GL back, but it's probably baled by now!!!
They had soundproofing on the bulkhead and also behind the dashboard like on the SR & GTE etc
Novasport
19-12-07, 11:51 AM
Very early RHD mk1 Novas had a rear wiper that was mounted on the opposite side to later ones(Pointed the other way)
they used 5 speed selectors on 4 speed boxes
craig green
19-12-07, 11:53 AM
Very early RHD mk1 Novas had a rear wiper that was mounted on the opposite side to later ones(Pointed the other way)
Absolutely true.
For some reason remembered this only this week.
Novasport
19-12-07, 11:58 AM
Mk1 grey rear bumpers did not have a lower groove/swage line until the 87 facelift when it changed to blue/grey. Now new early grey ones all come with the groove even though the part number has not changed :(
Novasport
19-12-07, 12:05 PM
There were other Nova/Corsa A convertibles built other than the Hutchinson & Irmscher Spiders. There was the Hintermeier, Michalak, Emelba & a factory version.
Info courtesty of Duick
Novasport
19-12-07, 12:08 PM
The Swiss got an Antibes which was a 1.3i
Thay also got a Sport which was like a mk2 SRi
vaughanmc
19-12-07, 12:37 PM
Is the UK and European Mk1 radio blank the same? Seen a few in Spain this year and wondered...
Is the UK and European Mk1 radio blank the same?
No :(:( , otherwise would know a few guys that would have got one lol
Novasport
19-12-07, 02:44 PM
Is the UK and European Mk1 radio blank the same? Seen a few in Spain this year and wondered...
No, they are different
vaughanmc
19-12-07, 02:47 PM
Ah well, that clears that one up :)
raymond
19-12-07, 05:19 PM
Novas were never built in Britain:roll:
They were built in Zaragova, Spain. They used to come with a 'Made in Spain' sticker in the windscreen.
A bit of the topic but my old gte still had that sticker in the window
did they all come with them
it was on the passenger side just under the tax disk holder you can just see it
pic
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e279/DAM14N/singlewiper2.jpg
fearless
19-12-07, 07:24 PM
Some works Grp A Nova's ran an internal petrol tank because they used a rear adjustable anti-roll bar that fitted where the original tank went
I heard that it was the mk1`s that had the slightly wider rear arches??
but my 3-spokes came from an H reg 1.4sr and theyre 47.5et.
Oh and there is a new paint treatment thats come out for novas too, it makes them invisible...........
Its called rust treatment lol!
paulnova
19-12-07, 09:06 PM
Apperently the guy that sprayed the corrosion protection on was on long term sick from 1983 through to 1993lol
pmsl lol lol
Novasport
19-12-07, 09:39 PM
A bit of the topic but my old gte still had that sticker in the window
did they all come with them
it was on the passenger side just under the tax disk holder you can just see it
Apparently a lot of dealers removed them when new.
Novasport
19-12-07, 09:42 PM
The 1.2 OHV pushrod engine is listed as being fitted to the Nova but I don't think it was ever released in the UK
Correct rich, only made it into mk2 astras.
The 1.2 was never fitted to the Nova or Corsa, not in UK, not in another country
Novasport
19-12-07, 09:55 PM
Mmmm, wonder why is listed in EPC:confused:
An anagram of Antibes is -
"BE SATIN"
or
"A IS BENT"
curious...
Couple of things I noticed whilst messing with my 1st nova;
The rear window surrounds from a GTE (and presumably the GSi also) have 2 cutouts along the B pillar side which seem to indicate there may have accomodated the idea of opening rear windows into the design.
I have heard reports that these were an option for some of the Euro's but have only seen 1 or 2 old pictures of a nova with them fitted (on one of the rare L reg GSi's infact)... does anyone have any info on these as I would give a mint for some!
Also noticed that theres a mount on the tailgate to accomodate a central locking motor, yet no nova was listed as having c/l tailgate - just the side doors. The c/l setup from a cavalier (or was it mk2 astra?) tailgate fits & works like a charm :)
Nova_Legend
20-12-07, 04:04 AM
Couple of things I noticed whilst messing with my 1st nova;
The rear window surrounds from a GTE (and presumably the GSi also) have 2 cutouts along the B pillar side which seem to indicate there may have accomodated the idea of opening rear windows into the design.
I have heard reports that these were an option for some of the Euro's but have only seen 1 or 2 old pictures of a nova with them fitted (on one of the rare L reg GSi's infact)... does anyone have any info on these as I would give a mint for some!
Also noticed that theres a mount on the tailgate to accomodate a central locking motor, yet no nova was listed as having c/l tailgate - just the side doors. The c/l setup from a cavalier (or was it mk2 astra?) tailgate fits & works like a charm :)
Lol. I bet theres a bigger list of people prepared to wager bigger amounts just to get rear opening 1/4's lol
Good bit of gen on the C/L boot. didnt know that :thumb:
Andy
As it were, I did a search just after posting and previous threads confirm what I thought about the rear quarters.. and there was someone selling a set for about ?250 not too long ago - very good money considering the same setup for a mk2 golf can set you back ?400 (and they're not OEM either)
If I do manage to get my grubby paws on a set, I will be looking into the possibility of adding some motors from the late BMW 3 series :D
Novasport
20-12-07, 08:47 AM
I have 2x sets of the opening rear quarter windows(NEITHER ARE FOR SALE!!) sat in my loft, one set will be going on my Sport.
They were only available for the Mk1, we tried them on a mk2 but they did not seem to fit on the C pillar.
They were only available in clear glass or bronze tint, they never did them in green tint for some reason.
They are very rare and were only available in hot countries, most of the parts have now gone NLS (No longer serviced)
I have just bought the last seals from Europe, I had to pay 50 Euros each plus post!
I do not think you will get the motorised rams from a BMW to fit as there is nowhere for them to mount.
Rich, I should have had a look in your loft lollol, seems to be an Aladdin's cave lollol
But opening 1/4s can be fit on MK2s, there's no reason they should not fit
Novasport
20-12-07, 09:49 AM
Rich, I should have had a look in your loft lollol, seems to be an Aladdin's cave lollol
But opening 1/4s can be fit on MK2s, there's no reason they should not fit
There is some pics of my loft in my WIP on JOV, take a look. Mind you it is a hell of a lot worse since I took that picture!
I am expecting it to rain Nova parts one night when the ceiling collapses!
We tried to fit them to Marks GSi with no luck, the handles would not clamp down correctly to the C pillar to lock in in or out. I thought it might be due to a different shaped inner pillar because of the plastic panels fitted on mk2's(Yes we did remove the trim to mount direct to the pillar).
Fitted them to my shell dead easy.
craig green
20-12-07, 11:29 AM
There was a guide in an old PNG NEWS from when Bernie at Novatech fitted Jason Hudson's opening rear quarter windows onto the L reg GSi.
Apparently Bernie drew similarities with the Manta setup.
re the wider rear arches comment. I think that refers to the arch lip which is thicker on mk1's. The mk2's have a thinner wheel arch lip which was sus[ected may be because the revised fr brake calipers on mk2 GSi's forced the wheels to be changed to 47.5mm offset.
Novasport
20-12-07, 11:43 AM
It is a similar setup to the Manta but the main parts are not the same.
The only parts it shares is the rubber B pillar grommets for the hinges and probably some nuts & washers etc, thats it.
craig green
20-12-07, 12:01 PM
I expect the fitting procedure is what they were referring to.
No, the 993cc didnt have any. Mine didnt and still doesnt.
AFAIK the 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 had front and rear ARBs as standard - my old 1.2 did - but my current blue shell doesn't (originally a 993cc). I just assumed Rexy had taken them off.
A Nova saloon is 333mm longer than a hatch, but weighs only 5kgs more than a poverty spec Mk1.
The rear window on the 2dr saloon is shorter than a 3dr hatch - window frames from a GTE/GSi don't fit, but saloon-specific ones are available.
Saloons didn't have rear windscreen wash/wipes, so the washer bottle only has one outlet. Handy for those with smoothed rear tailgates.
It was planned to sell a Novavan GSv, a Van with a full GSi bodykit and TurboDiesel engine, there's even a brochure. But it was never done
Novasport
20-12-07, 02:57 PM
It was planned to sell a Novavan GSv, a Van with a full GSi bodykit and TurboDiesel engine, there's even a brochure. But it was never done
And an SRv aswell iirc, I remember seeing a brochure years ago at Billing. Wish I had bought it now
Yes, right, this one
http://www.opel-corsa-a.com/Brochure/UK/NovaVan.jpg
Novasport
20-12-07, 03:27 PM
The european version of the Nova SR was also called SR until 1985 when they changed it to GT.
The E in GTE is German for Einspritzenlage which is German for Injection.
The mk1 was badged GTE in the UK and were badged as GSi's in Europe. You would have thought they would have done it the other way around, never worked that one out?!? It was the same for the Mk2 Astra aswell
Novasport
20-12-07, 03:33 PM
The limited edition Sport used parts from a Chevette, Manta & a Bedford Midi!
The Carb setup was originally designed by Irmscher for a Mk1 Astra.
The Irmscher UK airbox shares its design with a VW item by a tuning company called Sorg iirc.
A new original throttle cable for the Sport is a b@stard to find:mad:
vaughanmc
20-12-07, 03:36 PM
Was it not the air-filter from a Nova Sport that was originally from the Bedford Midi ?
Saloons didn't have rear windscreen wash/wipes, so the washer bottle only has one outlet. Handy for those with smoothed rear tailgates.
my old green nova's washer bottle only had one outlet, was one of the small one's even though it was rear wash and wipe on the back :confused:
Novasport
20-12-07, 03:38 PM
Was it not the air-filter from a Nova Sport that was originally from the Bedford Midi ?
No it was the coolant hose. The air filter was from a Carlton so that adds another car to the list!
talk about raiding the part's bin, for the sport or what lol
Novasport
20-12-07, 03:40 PM
Mk2 big tanks are blanked off where the rear washer pump went on a mk1 and they use one pump for front & rear
vaughanmc
20-12-07, 03:40 PM
What Chevette part was on the Sport?
The Nova came in at number 5 on 2005's "UK's Top 10 Most Stolen Cars List" lol
The Nova came in at number 5 on 2005's "UK's Top 10 Most Stolen Cars List" lol
i take it the metro was first or something?
my mum had her's stolen about 2 or 3 time's in one year lol lol
Novasport
20-12-07, 03:45 PM
Vin plates were sat straight on the slam panel(Level with the back edge) on early models, then from about 87 they were mounted at an angle(Level with the front edge) then later they put a recess in for the VIN plate.
The slam panel is not painted under the model code plate from the factory.
Just realised what I have just written, god I need to get out more:roll:
Novasport
20-12-07, 03:53 PM
What Chevette part was on the Sport?
It was the air hose/ducting & oil breather connector on the airbox
Also...
The blanking plugs for the airbox are actually from an Irmscher spoiler for a Mk2 Astra.
The Sport uses a hose from a 1.2 Mk2 Astra aswell
The carbs are not specific to the Sport, they were also used on another limited edition model that did not sell many numbers in the UK from what I know;) . They are not that good a carb due to emmissions stuff fitted to them and you are better off fitting normal DCOE's unless you want originality
vaughanmc
20-12-07, 03:57 PM
Be better keeping it original :)
Was the Nova Sport carbs not also shared with the Talbot Samba Rallye?
Novasport
20-12-07, 03:59 PM
Can I just say that I have received a lot of this valuable information and help from Tom May of Irmscher UK who sadly passed away in November.
It was a big loss to the Vauxhall world, not just for the knowledge he had but he was also a great man.
He will be missed, RIP
novacabrio
20-12-07, 05:51 PM
The windows we tried to fit to my mk2 GSI had been fitted to Jasons L reg GSI but I never seen them closed on his car although he assures me he could. Later shells do have better arch clearence due to the inner lip being angled and mk1s being horizontal
NOV4_SPORT
20-12-07, 06:45 PM
Vin plates were sat straight on the slam panel(Level with the back edge) on early models, then from about 87 they were mounted at an angle(Level with the front edge) then later they put a recess in for the VIN plate.
The slam panel is not painted under the model code plate from the factory.
Just realised what I have just written, god I need to get out more:roll:
ah your a wealth of knowledge rich best get out more thou lol lol lol
iain
vaughanmc
20-12-07, 07:18 PM
Aye he knows his stuff lol
novacabrio
20-12-07, 09:14 PM
ah your a wealth of knowledge rich best get out more thou lol lol lol
iain
he found that out from me :roll:
Loads of pointless but interesting infomation in here!
its all good info coming out here an interesting read
Nova.Sport : empty your PM box!
Novasport
21-12-07, 12:03 PM
Nova.Sport : empty your PM box!
Done, sent & recieved a few PM's which filled it sorry:(
beef@novadose.net
28-12-07, 05:31 PM
A new original throttle cable for the Sport is a b@stard to find:mad:
I remember circa '98 visiting Halfords (in Sunday Afternoon desperation), and asking if they had a Nova Sport throttle cable on the off chance. The spotty faced geek behind the parts counter proceeded to explain that "they only made 3 sporty Novas, the SR, GTE and GSi". I was like, not 'sporty', SPORT as in homologation special? He was adamant, I left lol.
More useless facts:
The Nova was the first car to be designed using what we now know as CAD.
There was a +/-7mm factory tolerance on the rear beam, hence tyres sometimes scrub on one side.
Earlier Novas Y-B/C were built using a better grade of steel (from Belgium iirc), than the later cars Costcutting in the early nineties as the recession kicked in meant inferior steel was used the last of the Mk2s and early Corsa Bs.
krobinson
28-12-07, 06:20 PM
Nova sports were delivered to the dealers with the Irmischer engine parts and decals in the boot! It was up to the dealers to fit them, therefore some were sold with these not fitted.
Half correct. The carbs etc came in the boot, but the decal's were fitted at the docks IRRC!
Keith
coombsey
28-12-07, 06:24 PM
if the carbs were in the boot what they have on the car std items? so there actualy could have been some sports driving round with out them on?
Novasport
28-12-07, 07:30 PM
Half correct. The carbs etc came in the boot, but the decal's were fitted at the docks IRRC!
Keith
I think it was only the trial stickers that were applied at the docks to see which they liked.
The decals were applied at the dealers, I remember speaking to a guy in the trade a few years back that applied some for a local dealer back in the day.
Remember these cars would be probably covered in protective wax until being delivered to the dealers.
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Ok this is how sad iam: early novas up to 87 have a smaller grommet for the aerial than later ones, some 83/84 models have the rear wiper on the left and not the right. 83/84 and possibly some 85 models have a lift up release for the rear seats, not the push down of the later models.
Up to 85 they didnt have side repeaters fitted as it wasnt a law then, 83/84 model novas have a diffrent parcel shelf, instead of the rubber hangers they have a thick string which retracts inside the shelf when the boots closed. 86/87 onwards they changed from amber to red strips in the bumpers of the sr. Up to 84 most novas came with either grey, green red brown or beige dashs/ seats/ doorcards, carpets etc, and the limited edition antibes came with red or blue carpets.
Sr's and gl models up to 87 had yellow 6 dial rev counters clocks, and the antibes and other lower spec models had optional 4 dial yellow clocks.
For some reason my 1990 base model had really comfy (mk1) headrest whereas the sr and decent spec model came with the hard, headache causing versions.
Also up to mid 85 novas had diffrent front wiper motors from the later models.
Also my if you look at these two pics you'll see that my 85 sr has the hooks in one place for the gte's ecu whereas the my current 83 model, the ecu wont fit as the hook is too close to the turrets.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/novamyth/B-Reg1600.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/novamyth/Sr%20Pics/A-reg/A-reg1682.jpg
And yes, I'll make it my new years resolution to get out more. lol
Novasport
29-12-07, 04:50 PM
Ok this is how sad iam: early novas up to 87 have a smaller grommet for the aerial than later ones, some 83/84 models have the rear wiper on the left and not the right. 83/84 and possibly some 85 models have a lift up release for the rear seats, not the push down of the later models.
Up to 85 they didnt have side repeaters fitted as it wasnt a law then, 83/84 model novas have a diffrent parcel shelf, instead of the rubber hangers they have a thick string which retracts inside the shelf when the boots closed. 86/87 onwards they changed from amber to red strips in the bumpers of the sr. Up to 84 most novas came with either grey, green red brown or beige dashs/ seats/ doorcards, carpets etc, and the limited edition antibes came with red or blue carpets.
Sr's and gl models up to 87 had yellow 6 dial rev counters clocks, and the antibes and other lower spec models had optional 4 dial yellow clocks.
For some reason my 1990 base model had really comfy (mk1) headrest whereas the sr and decent spec model came with the hard, headache causing versions.
Also up to mid 85 novas had diffrent front wiper motors from the later models.
GL clocks changed earlier than 87 as I bought an 86 GL that had the SR style clocks with the volt & oil lights instead of guages.
Side repeater were fitted from about 87 onwards when they became a legal requirement along with rear seatbelts.
There was also a hideous blue mk1 dashboard aswell.
Parcel shelfs changed to the rubber hangers in 86 when they introduced the crappy cardboard shelves to replace the decent plastic ones.
Speaking of hole sizes, the hole in the bulkhead for the wiring harness was enlarged on later mk1 shells I guess around 87/88. I assume this was to accommodate more wires on injection Novas.
vaughanmc
29-12-07, 05:18 PM
There was a +/-7mm factory tolerance on the rear beam, hence tyres sometimes scrub on one side.
That will be why mine is closer on the right side than on the left lol
With the old rotten beam anyway...
I may be wrong, but aren't the mk2 doors different to the mk1 doors?
Reason I think this is I stripped down the door on my mk2 recently and found that it doesn't have the 3rd hole for the interior door handle from a GTE, whereas I remember fitting one of these handles to my mk1 merit many years ago without any modifications to the metalwork.
Without checking again though, I can't be 100%
ANDYRACER
29-12-07, 08:30 PM
I know if you fit mk2 doorcards to a mk1 nova that you have to drill holes in the door for the bottom doorcard screws or live with them flopping around a bit.
krobinson
29-12-07, 08:58 PM
Early shell's only have one sidemounted screwhole for the dash, late mk1 and all mk2 have two mounts.
Keith
There was also a hideous blue mk1 dashboard aswell.
my dash isnt hideous :(
Novasport
29-12-07, 09:08 PM
I may be wrong, but aren't the mk2 doors different to the mk1 doors?
Reason I think this is I stripped down the door on my mk2 recently and found that it doesn't have the 3rd hole for the interior door handle from a GTE, whereas I remember fitting one of these handles to my mk1 merit many years ago without any modifications to the metalwork.
Without checking again though, I can't be 100%
There are about 3 different changes to the doors throughout the lifespan of the Nova, the most major difference was a change in design & position of door handles around 86. The early & late door handles are not interchangeable.
I suppose the other change was for mk2 door panels.
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