Supercharged Nova?

[boffer8]

hi, i have found an engine that is a 2.0l supercharged engine that i am thinkin of shoehorning into my nova. It has 240bhp standard and can easily put out over 350bhp with a few mods. i was just wondering if anyone had done a supercharged nova before, and if so if it had been a success or not? any feelings on this well appreciated.
cheers
boffer8

[draper]

i dont know of any that have been done before as space is an issue, try it and anything that gets in the way simply remove

[Adam]

Which engine?

[boffer8]

all i can say its a 2.0 dohc supercharged engine because thats all i know as the guy thats got it has only told me this. i was thinking of putting it in my kit car but thought it would go like stink in a nova that only ways about 600kg's! getting the power down may be a problem but a certain form of traction control may be required. as about fitting i would drop it in make the mounts and then anything that gets in the way chop out as it will need an intercooler somewhere.

[euro sbd]

sounds like a duratech (if thats how you spell it) ford engine. i know they supercharge them and there always used in kit cars, so maybe

[boffer8]

could well be but he says its a vauxhall unit so......? and it's duratec;)

[Mike]

XE then by the sounds of it.

You sure the seller isnt confusing the S/charger with a turbo charger lol

[boffer8]

xe'd would be alright! know he says there is a supercharger on it and he has dealt with cars and engines before so should be alright. he is sending me a picture tomorrow so will post it on here for you all to have a look see.

[Jack]

Thats going to be a VERY tight fit... Depends how big the drive is, how well it will clear the inner wing.

[Stuart]

It "could" be an LSJ engine from the US but they are 200bhp there (so a little more here with our better fuels)

it will be the same as fitting a Z22SE... which no one appears to have done.
the exhaust would be on the "other" side of the head and getting the bonnet to shut with the S/C on there would be tricky.

[boffer8]

hi guys, got this pic sent to me today and stuart was right it is an LSJ chevy engine. the guy that owns says that its been rollered at 235.7bhp without an lsd which means it would be extremely hairy on the roads over here!

http://images2.auction123.com/sizequalitypredef/ab7660c7-ecd9-4ac5-9f30-840853705fb6/1G1AP11P467756635/07.jpg?w800

[Martin]

good luck...

[Mike]

^ agreed, good luck in fitting that lol

[boffer8]

well all i say is if you can fit a v6 in you must be able to fit one of these in!

[Mike]

no, not at all.

Look at the shape of that engine ^ look where the charger is mount, right at the front. Where nova's have feck all room in there bay.

[Adam]

Just fit a Let

lol

[boffer8]

but thats easily sorted as you can jsut put some slight lean on the engine as it looks in the pic and also have a removeable slam panel. if i get it i will make it fit!!!!! lol

[Mike]

You can just "put slight lean" into an engine you know lol lol

[Adam]

I'll say again

Just fit a let

lol lol

[boffer8]

you can apply some lean, between 7 degrees positive and 7 degrees negative to an engine and it will still run within its designated boundaries, if its already cocked over too your in the money loads of people have done lets and i fancy something a little different. lets cost about ?1000 and this would cost me about ?1200 inc shipping here.

[Stuart]

also worth noting that the exhaust will come out 50degrees to the head and the downpipe will need serious modding to get round the rack...

as said the charger itself might pose a fitting issue too.
Sounds like its got a stage 1 or two mod kit on there to get that simple power... plus it will be fairly linear like an NA so will pull like a goodun.

you will have to fit the F23 gearbox with cable shift too as the starter motor is in the wrong palce for an F20. That means custom shafts to suit.

It would be an interesting project to do if you are serious


?1200 inc shipping...... feck off. its got to be mroe than that as a cylinder head was going to cost that much + tax lol

[Mike]

If its that cheap, it begs the qeustion as to its origin.

Then theres the issue of, when it breaks where can you get spares? Information regarding fitting? Wiring loom?

[boffer8]

wel he has everything out of the car too so thats ok (gerabox ecu loom shifter etc) as to the exhaust thats an interesting one i mite have to fab me own exhaust manifold up did me 4-2-1 for me nova but we'll see. regarding shipping was on a roll with that post i put lol. he says i can heva the engine for ?900 plus ?150 for gearbox. i got a ford 2.3 duratec from america in a crate and postage on that only cost me ?300 so i reckon i mite have a little change out of ?1500. so plus shafts that i would do equal length units any moding everything to fit i think ?5000???

[Jack]

Remove rear seats and boot trim.

Fit engine in place. Drive to rear wheels.

Sorted :D

[boffer8]

i like where u are goin razorjack!!

[Mike]

everything to fit i think ?5000???

Thats a nice modified import Impreza, older Evo or even a Saph Cos that will have more power to start with & the cult status that comes with ownership....

[boffer8]

yea but they would be no where near as much fun as i have driven an evo 5 and it just is no fun to drive and a bit of fun in! thats mine own opinion like so dont evryone start saying thats boll*cks.

[Mike]

As Evo's are not built for day to day cars lol unlike the Impreza.

Anyway, if its going to cost ?5k all in, IMHO id just go LET, and tune that instead. Its a tried and tested method of making BHP.

[SRimon]

Good luck with that, it'll prob go in if you keep cutting the nova apart lol

[scott.parker]

Humm i say do it!!!

Just so we can see what you do.

And also i say MR/RR it.

Scott

[Stuart]

You have to ask what kind of TB is has... if its an Eletronic one you will need the pedal from the car too.


also the CC rad.

[Jack]

Thats a nice modified import Impreza, older Evo or even a Saph Cos that will have more power to start with & the cult status that comes with ownership....
Meh. I can think of a handful of other cars I'd rather have over all three of those, for similar money :p

[craig green]

I see no reason why its not doable, inless it literally comes down to running out of clearance where the Corsa actually has more.

There is a charged 22SE in a Corsa that was in TV months back.

However equal length shafts willl be a laugh as you then have the manifold headers, seering rack & shafts to contend with.

I reckon it might just be better in the boot powering rear wheels (lots of work!) or just bang it in an Astra mk2 GTE & be done with it!

[Will F]

Allow me to be the first to say:

Bet this doesnt happen and its a 15 year old who uploads pics from US websites!lol

[craig green]

LOL. ?1500 quid isnt much. Its just another 471 paper rounds & I will be able to write the cheque.

[boffer8]

excuse me pal i aint 15! i am 21 doing motorsports engineering at university and this would be my final year project! i have already built me own rally car to contend in the up to 1400cc championships and classes and have been scouted by RML and if you dont know who they are then you really dont know much about motorsport and projects!! so i think i know what i am doing pal!!

Will F get your facts right before you start splurting out sh1t!!

[Stuart]

no offence but its a bit of a crap final year project..... its mroe of an A-Level one. For an engineering dissertation you want to be coming up with a semi tangable theory or working some trick engineering principle into something.

as craig said the clearence in a cors would be more favourable and just hope the exhaust dosent cause huge problems.... heat being the 2nd one after interference with stuff.

[boffer8]

not sure on it being an a level project as dropping this size of engine in a car thats v. small is not easy as anyone whos fitted an engine in to car before that was'nt intended and has'nt been done before will know.

[Stuart]

ok maybe not a-level... but certainly NOT a BEng/MEng dissertation.
I barely scrapped through with a semi working concept (and full theory) for universal( aslong as the car has ABS) traction control that worked on fuel rather than spark.

[boffer8]

well all i say is if a lad i know can pass with a 2.1 by just turboing his 998 mini then i think if i do this i should be alrite

[NovaLad]

And if you fail do you have a backup plan?

[Stuart]

Swansea Institute per chance?

[boffer8]

backup hmmm... could always turbo my nova 1.3 suppose. no i aint at swansea i am at UCLAN.

[Stuart]

I would say the turbo charging an engine that was N/A is a better dissertation as you can go through the current engine spec/design, investigate turbo engine design, turbo specifications (dont jsut pick one you can find off a scrap yard as thats not engineering), the intake and exhaust manifold design, flow dyanmics with Wave/GT power, fuel and spark control end so on.... hell you could base the ENTIRE project on just the intake manifold.

[boffer8]

yea i could because i have already done flow dynamics and done a CAD design on an intake manifold and plenum for a 1.4 16v engine

[dave.gsi]

as if by magic..........a supercharged nova...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Papizyilptw

sounds pretty good :thumb:

[burgo]

very kool

[boffer8]

that sounds good but listen to the supercharger on this corsa! it sounds the boll*cks!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQy6UpBqHqg

[paddy138]

boffer8, are you doing motor sport engineering and design up by preston, if you are do you know a chap called paul murphy from ireland hes doing his final year in that course and has to do a project similar to this

[General Baxter]

as if by magic..........a supercharged nova...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Papizyilptw

sounds pretty good :thumb:

oh i wonder who posted that up lol

[burgo]

baxter your other video is weird

[alan b]

courtenay have a 2.2 superchared corsa, so it can be done, i just wouldnt bother!

[BenNova]

will be hard work, i'd go for the turbo on small block for a laugh, but i dont really know anything lol