trailer building

[General Baxter]

is there any law stopping me from building a car trailer?

my truck can tow a weight of 3ton unbraked or 5.5ton braked

all its going to have on it is a very light nova lol

p.s it will be phase 3 welding not my crappy gassless :roll:

[Stuart]

no laws to stop you..... just do it properly lol

[General Baxter]

no laws to stop you..... just do it properly lol

of couse i would :p
single or dubble axle?

now some info please, seeing as my haynes gone walkies,
dimentions of the novas wheel base, lenght and width, and body :)

[burgo]

of couse i would :p
single or dubble axle?

now some info please, seeing as my haynes gone walkies,
dimentions of the novas wheel base, lenght and width, and body :)

just told you and give me a shout when you come to do it and ill help you

[Jack]

Length 3622mm
Width 1540mm
Wheelbase 2343mm
Track, front 1320mm
Track, rear 1300mm

[stuartp]

double!!

[General Baxter]

Length 3622mm
Width 1540mm
Wheelbase 2343mm
Track, front 1320mm
Track, rear 1300mm

can some on convert that to feet lol

[burgo]

u do it lazy ****

[coombsey]

lol

[Stuart]

50mm = 1 inch, 10inches to a foot.

[Lynsey]

There are 12 inches in a foot.
25.4 mm per inch :)

[burgo]

50mm = 1 inch, 10inches to a foot.stu you may want to edit that :thumb:

[burgo]

There are 12 inches in a foot.

plus it is 25.4mm = 1 inch

[Lynsey]

yup... ;)
I think Stu just wanted Baxter to end up with a wonkey trailor lol lol lol

[Mike]

50mm = 1 inch, 10inches to a foot.

lol lol

[mowgli]

you need a 14' x 6'6" double axle trailer. try ebay, there are thousands. it will take loads of time & sourcing the axles will be a pain.

ps. you must have brakes (including park) for any trailer with a total weight of 750kgs or more

[burgo]

Length 3622mm=11.8ft
Width 1540mm=5.05ft
Wheelbase 2343mm=7.68ft
Track, front 1320mm=4.33ft
Track, rear 1300mm=4.26ft

:roll:

[Mike]

There are 12 inches in a foot.
25.4 mm per inch :)

IIRC its actually 25.439mm ;)

[burgo]

IIRC its actually 25.439mm ;)errrr no! 25.4mm is closer to an inch as 25.4mm=0.999997inch, where as 25.439mm=1.001532inch

if you want to get as close to a true inch as you can then you want 25.4001mm

[Lynsey]

LOTNSRs- Shut it smart ****. lol

[mowgli]

when I last took a bodyshell to the scrappy on a 12' trailer, it overhung

[paulnova]

50mm = 1 inch, 10inches to a foot.

lol lol

there dirt cheap to buy, i got a twin axle for ?100, new tyres and brakes!!

[Ernie]

Mine is 19ft long by 8.5ft wide.
It.s abit to big for a nova but does come in handy with moving other cars and stuff for others.
This is a nova ive just scrapped looking a bit lost on it. lol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/31102007398.jpg

[Stuart]

Taiwan GENUINELY took on the metric system but kinda fecked up by metricising their imperial measurements. So they wound up with 10 inches to a foot lol.

me, mess with baxters mind..... never.. :D

[General Baxter]

well that dont look 12x6 lol
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/general-purpose-trailer_W0QQitemZ140176876720QQihZ004QQcategoryZ12 1982QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Paul]

you need to be 21 to tow a trailer, and have passed another bit of driving test.

Unless you passed pre 1997.

Just checking yuou know

[General Baxter]

i have B + E on mine, cost my company an extra ?800 to do it, lol

i also got class 2 so ner lol

got my class 1 on monday in stoke, so adam dont go out in the nova lol

[novautd]

that trailer must be 12f long total length not loadbed size

[Ricky G]

you need to be 21 to tow a trailer, and have passed another bit of driving test.

Unless you passed pre 1997.

Just checking yuou know
actualy i have checked this with the dvla as i have to tow for stock car racing.
the law states anyone can tow a trailer with a full driving license, unless the total vehicle weight goes over 3 and a half ton. (including your tow car)
then after that weight you need to take a test. also you need to be insured as if you crash and the insurance dont know you were towing they will use this against you.
if im wrong shoot me down but i spent about an hour researching this with the dvla, so if i am wrong ill shoot everyone at the dvla.lol

[General Baxter]

actualy i have checked this with the dvla as i have to tow for stock car racing.
the law states anyone can tow a trailer with a full driving license, unless the total vehicle weight goes over 3 and a half ton. (including your tow car)
then after that weight you need to take a test. also you need to be insured as if you crash and the insurance dont know you were towing they will use this against you.
if im wrong shoot me down but i spent about an hour researching this with the dvla, so if i am wrong ill shoot everyone at the dvla.lol

well im glad iv got a licence as my tow car must weight 3ton lol

[_JH_]

Ricky G is right regards the towing law, although some companies won't insure you to tow until 21, hence the confusion.

I have a book printed by Indespension in '96 with plans for a twin axle 2600kg gross car transporter and a single axle 1300kg gross. Very simple plans to follow, but as already mentioned sourcing axles can be a bugger. I'll scan it in in a week or so when I get a new scanner, HTH

Get to a farm sale and buy a rusty old stockbox or horsebox, just make sure the brake backing plates etc are good, then go from there. It'll be 2600kg gross if not 3500kg, so the axles, brakes, drawbar etc are up to the job.

I use a 12ftx5ft8inch bed trailer for my grass tracker and it is plenty big enough.

EDIT: Also, if you can find a cheap caravan chassis, especially a twin axle one, they a great for making car transporters from.

[db_1.2]

Mine is 19ft long by 8.5ft wide.
It.s abit to big for a nova but does come in handy with moving other cars and stuff for others.
This is a nova ive just scrapped looking a bit lost on it. lol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/31102007398.jpg

Wheyyyy you bought the GTE! Sorry just had to say it, remember seeing it on the drive when i bought a car there.

[General Baxter]

http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5865&d=1195384706
It has an overall length of 5.8m and a chassis dimension of 4.4m x 2m.

little light thing behind me, i did not even know it was there lol

[Royston]

actualy i have checked this with the dvla as i have to tow for stock car racing.
the law states anyone can tow a trailer with a full driving license, unless the total vehicle weight goes over 3 and a half ton. (including your tow car)
then after that weight you need to take a test. also you need to be insured as if you crash and the insurance dont know you were towing they will use this against you.
if im wrong shoot me down but i spent about an hour researching this with the dvla, so if i am wrong ill shoot everyone at the dvla.lol

Hi Guy's,
Just thought I'd put a few things straight as there appears to be confusion

If you passed your car test (Cat B) before 1st of Jan 1997, you have full trailer entitlement up to max weight permitted on your licence and vehicle plated weights/capability (non LGV/HGV) . (you will also be able to drive a 7.5t truck at the age of 18).

After 1st of Jan 1997 with a std car licence you can pull a trailer up to 750kgs gross trailer weight(which isn't much).

If you passed a car test after the 1st of Jan 1997 and you wish to tow a trailer above 750kgs gross this you need to sit a B+E driving test (car & trailer) and are not licenced or insured for that matter to pull a trailer above this weight - Fact

My father runs a LGV driving school, and we are still getting people coming for training, who have been stopped by the Police and found they are not entitled to drive who thought they were, nearly 11 years since the laws changed!

Ignorance, unfortunately isn't a defence.

Hope this info helps;)

[Royston]

This is my towing outfit,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/1297cc/DSCF1611-2-1.jpg

The best combination I ever saw was a 2.8i Ford Granada on the back of a 4 wheel car trailer, towed my a Mini Metro, with 4 people in it! I couldn't believe my eyes!!

The best advice on trailering is to have kit that is man enough to do the job, and ensure it is loaded well.

We've all seen caravans on their side in a million pieces, poor towing combinations and poor loading can do just the same!!!

[General Baxter]

The best advice on trailering is to have kit that is man enough to do the job, and ensure it is loaded well.


tell that to my boss, LDV convoys 75ps, fully laden rear weights 3.2tons, then 1.5ton on weight test trailer, all with over 150k on the clock, you try going up a hill lol

anywho, my chassis was a bargin, ?32, 5 miles down the road, dry stored, brakes work fine, suspension works fine :)

[Ash]

anywho, my chassis was a bargin, ?32, 5 miles down the road, dry stored, brakes work fine, suspension works fine :)

meh, get some coilovers and slam it lol

[Royston]

my truck can tow a weight of 3ton unbraked or 5.5ton braked

Just noticed your original post, that sounds a little high, are you sure that's not train weight?

My Range Rover is rated at 3.5 tonnes tow weight, with over run brakes, and can be pushed up to 4.0 tonnes with coupled brakes, i.e. linked to main braking system. (I wouldn't bother as it's too much hassle)

I think there is a restriction now above 3.5 tonnes, but not sure without looking it up.

But I'm sure your Nissan will be more than capable:thumb:

[chris gsi]

thought i would post this pic of a trooper having a work out towing

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f57/chris_1981/bighornandboat.jpg

[General Baxter]

Just noticed your original post, that sounds a little high, are you sure that's not train weight?

My Range Rover is rated at 3.5 tonnes tow weight, with over run brakes, and can be pushed up to 4.0 tonnes with coupled brakes, i.e. linked to main braking system. (I wouldn't bother as it's too much hassle)

I think there is a restriction now above 3.5 tonnes, but not sure without looking it up.

But I'm sure your Nissan will be more than capable:thumb:

well thats what it says in my big book of jap crap, (the one that tells me what the 10,000 buttons do)

alltho parkers says its a 3ton braked :thumb:

[Ash]

if it above 3.5ton you need a tacho lol

[mowgli]

if it above 3.5ton you need a tacho lol

Can I just say that eating mexican food products while driving is dangerous & should be avoided.....



PS. you only need a tachograph for work considered 'hire or reward'. Some idiot from vosa recently tried to tell us that our tractors needed tachographs fitting. after we proved that as we had an O licence, drivers with class 1 licences,the tractors had white diesel, special vehicle road tax, & were operating within a 30mile radius from home, he could swivel, we got an apology.

[bangerbrian]

Got a trailer to tow my nova stockcar, not sure what length etc but it has got a ford axle, single axle with a nova on it and it is fine

[General Baxter]

well after 3 hours of computing design, (boss did it), approx weight of the nova, lenght, width, loads of ****e, which way the car WILL sit on the trailer, towing weight of the car, hitch cap, spring tension, unladen weight (thats why it looks wonky,\ as when the cars on it the wheels will be |

its come up with where to stick the axel lol,

all choped ready to go, quick paint, next to come, strenthen bars, then some HGV trailer flooring, lights, mud wings, ect:

red paint is so i can transport it and people can see it as no lights ect:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/Image001-1.jpg

[General Baxter]

erm how do i work out a std patten lol

we worked it out to a std nova track, need the space the wheels out by 2mm ether side to clear, bollox lol

[Welsh Dan]

If you mean a stuf pattern, draw a circle with a 100mm diameter, and stick 4 holes on it, equally spaced apart.

[shy witness]

i dont wanna piss on yer parade mate

but that axle looks like its 2 far back

it'll put shed loads of weight on back of wotever youre towing it with.

the trick is to keep the axle..where the trailers almost at a balancing point.


maybe its just a bad angle im looking at it from though

[General Baxter]

i dont wanna piss on yer parade mate

but that axle looks like its 2 far back

it'll put shed loads of weight on back of wotever youre towing it with.

the trick is to keep the axle..where the trailers almost at a balancing point.


maybe its just a bad angle im looking at it from though

nar its not far back, plus thats where a ?5K + computer program told me to put it, at the average weight of a ton for a nova lol

[bump]

Was said program designed for artic trailers?

[General Baxter]

no lol

ill get the name of it, monday, as im not allowed to touch the computers at work lol

[bump]

no lol

ill get the name of it, monday, as im not allowed to touch the computers at work lol

You'd try and operate them with a grinder lol

[General Baxter]

You'd try and operate them with a grinder lol

i did clobber one with a sledge as it froze on me lol

[_JH_]

reverse the nova on and it'll be perfect, lots of grassers build their trailers like that.

And no, the 'trick' is not to put the axle where the trailer balances if you are building a custom at all, or you still end up with too much weight on the drawbar

[shy witness]

reverse the nova on and it'll be perfect, lots of grassers build their trailers like that.

And no, the 'trick' is not to put the axle where the trailer balances if you are building a custom at all, or you still end up with too much weight on the drawbar


hence why i said almost smart****:thumb:

obviously depending on what exactly your going to be carrying


cars arent even loads............

and every car is didfferent...................if its stripped out........its different

if its front engine.....rwd ......its different etc etc

why on earth would you want to build a custom trailer ...........and you have to bother putting

your car on in reverse???????

:confused:

[General Baxter]

if its front engine.....rwd ......its different etc etc

why on earth would you want to build a custom trailer ...........and you have to bother putting your car on in reverse???????


lol its a custom trailer, for a very custom car *hint hint*

+ the trailer chassis was ?30 lol

[shy witness]

lol its a custom trailer, for a very custom car *hint hint*

+ the trailer chassis was ?30 lol


happy days

sure are you not towing it with a nissan jeep???

it would hardly even need an axle..................sure theyd pulla house down lol lol lol lol

[General Baxter]

happy days

sure are you not towing it with a nissan jeep???

it would hardly even need an axle..................sure theyd pulla house down lol lol lol lol

it will considering its got a v6 holden engine lol

[_JH_]

why on earth would you want to build a custom trailer ...........and you have to bother putting

your car on in reverse???????

:confused:

Um, why not? lol

I'm doing one at the moment. Why lug a 3.5ton capacity flat bed that weighs almost as much as my grasser up and down the motorways when a light-weight custom trailer will suffice? Regardless of your tow vehicle (a 6 cylinder landrover 109 in my case) lighter trailers are far easier, especially to move around by hand when empty.

And as for putting it on backwards, again why not? It's easier to load the driving wheels on last, especially in poor weather when things get slippy.