View Full Version : Engines...oh and my first post for ages
Hello to anyone who knows me,
I just would lke some advice.
I got lucky today went to a mates house and he was just about to scrap a p reg calibra, its got leather alloys mot and tax and he wanted ?50 for it:roll: so um well I turned it down :D not:thumb:
Anyways I have a rally car (Nova Sport) that really needs a new engine
The calibra is a 2.0 but I think its 8v if its 16v I will pee my pants and let you all know tomrrow, my question (at last) is
Should I put the engine in my Sport??? If so who wants to do it??? and how much is it goig to cost me!!! :thumb:
Si
link to my feature http://www.pngclub.com/forum/viewfeaturecar.php?ref=536
lol @ 5 minutes between this post and then deciding to sell the sport.
As for should you do it.. Yes! :)
dont put a bigger engine into it. rebuild the sport engine
lol @ 5 minutes between this post and then deciding to sell the sport.
As for should you do it.. Yes! :)
Thort you mite like that :eek:
The Sport has alwayz been for sale though :roll:
Oh and I just weed myself
I found out that its a 16v Engine
Puts a different perspective on my first post :D
:thumb:
carls nova sri
28-09-07, 08:35 PM
bargin
peester
28-09-07, 08:36 PM
lol this is wierd, u wanna ruin a genuine sport with a 20NE/XE???
Ide say either sell the sport to someone who will do it up properly and get yourself a tidy normal shell and put cally bits on that, or just sell the cally bits off to fund restoring the sport properly. :-)
lol this is wierd, u wanna ruin a genuine sport with a 20NE/XE???
Ide say either sell the sport to someone who will do it up properly and get yourself a tidy normal shell and put cally bits on that, or just sell the cally bits off to fund restoring the sport properly. :-)
This man talks sense!
lol this is wierd, u wanna ruin a genuine sport with a 20NE/XE???
Ide say either sell the sport to someone who will do it up properly and get yourself a tidy normal shell and put cally bits on that, or just sell the cally bits off to fund restoring the sport properly. :-)
There aint much sport bits left to be honest only the shell and the engine, I do understand what your saying hence I think I might sell the Sport and just concentrate on the cosworth I have got. Might just buy a cheap Nova a put the 16v lump in it tho for track days :thumb:
Oh and thats why in my first post I was asking for advice BIGS!!!
IMHO sports are a sum of their parts. Yours is now really just a white nova shell with sport graphics. Not really something id be worried about 'ruining' as its been stripped and caged anyway LOL
Dont listen to these pansies, whack a proper engine in it, and come out and have some fun!
^^^ i agree with Lee, wack the valver in it, and do some track day's
Philsutton
28-09-07, 09:20 PM
cant go wrong with a mans engine
matthew172
28-09-07, 09:23 PM
if its a 16v in a p reg it well be ecotec wannk
matthew172
28-09-07, 09:24 PM
oh and, feck the heritage xe the cunnt
peester
28-09-07, 09:30 PM
to be fair, youre first post came across a tad 'wet-behind the ears', ive since seen your for sale thread and youve been at this waay longer than your posts lead on..
You know what to do chap; more so then most of us..
Crack on.
carls nova sri
28-09-07, 09:36 PM
go on put it in
for the record the ecotec isnt a bad engine..... its only let down by cheap/nasty sensors.
slip some TB's and DTA/MBE on there and it will be proper fun
for the record the ecotec isnt a bad engine..... its only let down by cheap/nasty sensors.
slip some TB's and DTA/MBE on there and it will be proper fun
This is the sort of advice I need! when I get a chance of a 16v lump for ?50 I needed to know what people think. I have had little experience in the 16v engine TBH...like has been said if its an ecotec engine is it worth using or just sell it on and maybe fit something a little different in my Sport. :thumb:
IMHO sports are a sum of their parts. Yours is now really just a white nova shell with sport graphics. Not really something id be worried about 'ruining' as its been stripped and caged anyway LOL
Dont listen to these pansies, whack a proper engine in it, and come out and have some fun!
This is why I asked the question, your reply Throttlebody is exactly what I want to know. As you can see from the pics there is very little Sport parts left I sold them all on to a guy restoring a Sport so at least they went to good use!!!! The dash has a hole in it (not done by me) and the only genuine part is the bottom end which needs rebuilding :confused: Even the Sport graphics are mostly missing.
I guess the shell and the twin 40's are the only oringinal bits and the shell is only a Base model.
more comments like this please!:thumb:
to be fair, youre first post came across a tad 'wet-behind the ears', ive since seen your for sale thread and youve been at this waay longer than your posts lead on..
You know what to do chap; more so then most of us..
Crack on.
I know what you are saying Peester, thats why I put in the post "for those of you who know me hello" lol
I like to test the water, to see what people who maybe havn't seen me or the car might think or suggest
Thanks for your comments made me :D
you compete with it?
If so then you will need a baad ass spec 2L to be remotely competative...
you compete with it?
If so then you will need a baad ass spec 2L to be remotely competative...
Track Days really but not done any for a while! Do you not think that a 1.3 Nova can be competitive then? Think again.......:D
here is a couple of pics to give you an idea lol
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/whishihada/DSCF0194.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/whishihada/DSCF0195.jpg
NovaLad
29-09-07, 09:38 AM
lol plenty of tread left their then ...
Hi Si - longtime no see - hope all is well!
I'm going to be a dissenting voice.
The shell came out of the factory intended to be a Sport. It'll always be one - there aren't many about and i think its a shame to "*******ise" it with an XE. They were the "special ones" when it comes to Nova motorsport heritage.
Fair enough go ahead, its a free world and all that and you'll be fast, but make no mistake it'll just be yet another nova/corsa/cav/astra/escort/mini/kit car/you name it with the ubiquitous 2.0l XE in- ie nowt unusual - everyone knows about them and TBH its not suprising they're fast -2.0l engine in a 750kg shell- its not rocket science.
Walk round any remotely related Vaux show and they're everywhere - its got proper tedious.
So ner to all you big blockers droning on about XE's - boooooring. Change the record :p
:D
si, didnt mean youre 1300 wasnt competative... but in class im sure you can appreciate that a 2.0 with a simple build/spec wont touch a ?10K engine etc...
trackdays are totally different lol, dar proves that ;)
scott.parker
29-09-07, 03:20 PM
Hi Si - longtime no see - hope all is well!
I'm going to be a dissenting voice.
The shell came out of the factory intended to be a Sport. It'll always be one - there aren't many about and i think its a shame to "*******ise" it with an XE. They were the "special ones" when it comes to Nova motorsport heritage.
Fair enough go ahead, its a free world and all that and you'll be fast, but make no mistake it'll just be yet another nova/corsa/cav/astra/escort/mini/kit car/you name it with the ubiquitous 2.0l XE in- ie nowt unusual - everyone knows about them and TBH its not suprising they're fast -2.0l engine in a 750kg shell- its not rocket science.
Walk round any remotely related Vaux show and they're everywhere - its got proper tedious.
So ner to all you big blockers droning on about XE's - boooooring. Change the record :p
:D
Charles i agree (although im one of "them") i do also think it's really nice to see somthing different, and if i was building a car for show use i would opt for somthing other then a xe.
But for cheep solid track day action a standard(ish) xe is an easy option, as you know, lol im not going to try tell grany how to suck eggs..:D
All said Hence my mate did this
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/viewfeaturecar.php?ref=2953
He bought all the engine and ecu and most parts of neil (NovaNeil) of here
the reason he spent twice the amount it would coast for an xe conversion was he didnt want to be just another nova owner with an xe nova etc etc..
(the car is soon to be going back to gsi kit,and change of wheels,bit of body work done etc)
I whent out in this car the otherday and i could not stop laughing for ages,it's small light and so much fun when the turbo kicks in:D ..
So my view on things is...
If your track daying the shell and are not fussed about it being a spot shell then do as you please..but if you wish to keep it somthing "special" then restore it to a full sport spec etc.
Scott
Hey Charles (Legend) long time no speak nice to hear from you
anyone seen Dan? He was at combe but ignord me last Sat!
Anyways Im going to rebuild that 1400 bottom end I thnk I got through you, and fit that to the Sport, keep it a bit origional hey!
So I have a 20 16v Ecotec Engine with nothing to do with it
I dont know much about Ecotek Engines are they any good for anything?
Anyone with a link to info comparing engines and engine codes or anyone wish to give me a school lesson???
:thumb:
si, didnt mean youre 1300 wasnt competative... but in class im sure you can appreciate that a 2.0 with a simple build/spec wont touch a ?10K engine etc...
trackdays are totally different lol, dar proves that ;)
I know Stuart no worries....Look out for me and the Sport :thumb:
evening, i am alive but only just, i have had some serious work loads and only been on to keep things in check breifly :O the last 3 weeks or so due to no days off work.
:eek: thought it was odd i didnt see you at combe, must have had my blinkers on :( although i did see your missus and said hello which really baffled me lol lol . Will have to catch up again soon at some point as i have some interesting idea's for the new season you may be interested in :thumb:
I'm going to sit on the fence with this one as i am oldskool and agree with what charles says (hence i have had mine for farrrr to many years) and yet i also realise and accept the benefits of the more modern approach. I to will have this same issue when mine finally dies and will struggle to decide what to do.
Hi Si - longtime no see - hope all is well!
I'm going to be a dissenting voice.
The shell came out of the factory intended to be a Sport. It'll always be one - there aren't many about and i think its a shame to "*******ise" it with an XE. They were the "special ones" when it comes to Nova motorsport heritage.
Fair enough go ahead, its a free world and all that and you'll be fast, but make no mistake it'll just be yet another nova/corsa/cav/astra/escort/mini/kit car/you name it with the ubiquitous 2.0l XE in- ie nowt unusual - everyone knows about them and TBH its not suprising they're fast -2.0l engine in a 750kg shell- its not rocket science.
Walk round any remotely related Vaux show and they're everywhere - its got proper tedious.
So ner to all you big blockers droning on about XE's - boooooring. Change the record :p
:D
Id agree with you if the car was standard, but the thing has all the internal seat brackets gone and a cage welded in it. A valver isnt exactly going to make it any more 'non retrievable' lol
Next time i see you im wearing my 'Big Blocks Rule' t shirt im having made especially lol
Id agree with you if the car was standard, but the thing has all the internal seat brackets gone and a cage welded in it. A valver isnt exactly going to make it any more 'non retrievable' lol
Next time i see you im wearing my 'Big Blocks Rule' t shirt im having made especially lol
Ah not qute true as it has a "Bolt in cage" thats why I fitted it as I (at the time) only did track days!
:roll:
[quote=Dan]
:eek: thought it was odd i didnt see you at combe, must have had my blinkers on :( although i did see your missus and said hello which really baffled me lol lol . Will have to catch up again soon at some point as i have some interesting idea's for the new season you may be interested in :thumb:
ah thats cos she works for Combe :thumb: and because you were wiv a rather nice young lady ;)
Do you want an Ecotek Engine lol
chris gsi
30-09-07, 11:13 AM
hi mate nice to see you on here i think you shoud keep the 8v engine in even if you put a 1.4 bottom end in with a bit of work done to it if not you could donate the sport to me lol
Hi fella.Every time ive seen this at combe it's always been flying round you will miss it if it goes.
ANDYRACER
30-09-07, 01:13 PM
Have you thought of possibly putting a 1.6 8v in there on carbs or maybe a 1.6 16v?
I had my nova sr around combe at eurofest and loved how it handled but it just didnt have the pull down the straights imo. :(
Which nova were you as there was a few at eurofest and sorry to go of topic.
ANDYRACER
30-09-07, 01:34 PM
D reg nova sr with grey cav gsi rims.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/ANDYRACER/Andyoncastlecombe6.jpg
hi mate nice to see you on here i think you shoud keep the 8v engine in even if you put a 1.4 bottom end in with a bit of work done to it if not you could donate the sport to me lol
Hi Chris
Think iam going to have some Nova time, lol Well If I was going to give away the sport then u wld be close to top of the list :thumb:
ah thats cos she works for Combe :thumb: and because you were wiv a rather nice young lady ;)
Do you want an Ecotek Engine lol
Ahh that would explain that then, the nice young lady i was walking around with was bottlethroddy's missus when i had stuarts camera, to get all the on track photo's for them. Either that or when i was with rexy and riggy, although i wouldnt call rexy nice lol lol lol he did live upto parking in the gay parking spot we set out though lol
Have you thought of possibly putting a 1.6 8v in there on carbs or maybe a 1.6 16v?
I had my nova sr around combe at eurofest and loved how it handled but it just didnt have the pull down the straights imo. :(
even 147bhp wasnt enough pull in a nova weight car lol... even though dans can do the business, but we all know that breaks all the rules so tis ok
Hi fella.Every time ive seen this at combe it's always been flying round you will miss it if it goes.
Thanx it does go rather wel for a 1.3 :)
D reg nova sr with grey cav gsi rims.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/ANDYRACER/Andyoncastlecombe6.jpg
LOL yet another Karl Rowtree lookalike doing the round's.
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