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greg1.4
01-09-07, 02:00 PM
got more problems with my nova today.

got up this morning nice and early, snapped a headbolt which was the first bad thing..now the engine is all together and i tried to fire it up and its turning over and over.. its getting a spark on every plug, (new leads, plugs and dizzy cap), its getting fuel but not wanting to fire.

the timing marks are all lined up and when number 1 cylinder is right at the top number 4 is on the rocks as you look in the oil filler cap on rocker cover so timing is ok. i have tried adjusting the ingnition timing but no luck.

after turning over a while i saw smoke coming up from the starter.. the red live is red hot.. what could this be? i have got a live straight from the battery on the big terminal, the red/black wire from a wee loom onto the small starter terminal and a big brown earth going from the 13mm bolt that holds the starter on the block up to the negative battery terminal. is this right??

i could really do with some help on why its not starting though..

Cheers,
Greg

Adam
01-09-07, 02:44 PM
Yeah, that wirings right.
How long were you cranking for? That will heat the starter wire up, if you keep cranking.

Try a bit of fuel down the carb. Does it try to fire or just turn over and over?

greg1.4
01-09-07, 02:59 PM
its wanting to start but just not going to.. it it is firing but not going to start up and run..

tried a bit of petrol down the carb.. also put a gallon in the tank and made sure petrol is coming out the feed pipe into the carb..

going to leave the battery to charge for a hour or two, heat the plugs up with a blowtorch then try it then..

the starter is red hot also.. its smoking after about 5-10 seconds of turning over. i must have something wrong. the big earth to the bolt is not touching the block..its between the starter and the bolt. is this the problem??

i notice the starter has a spade terminal on it aswell as the round terminals i have got my wires going into?? could this be something to do wth it??

Cheers,
Greg

Greg

Adam
01-09-07, 03:10 PM
Aye, somethings not right then.

The starter wire is fine, thats where mine is.

My start has no spade terminals tho.

greg1.4
02-09-07, 09:51 PM
i still cant get this to start. i am fed up of it.. any other sugestions?

getting a spark, getting fuel, firing order correct, earth from chassis to gearbox is on, eart from battery neg to bulkhead is on, plenty life in battery..

i am really sick of it now.. looks like engine is coming out and getting flung in the corner.. would rather fix the problem though.. there was nothing damaged in the engine from what i could see.. i am sure everything is back together ok.

any help will be greatly appreciated.:thumb:

Greg

greg1.4
03-09-07, 03:08 PM
bttt.

Stantonio
03-09-07, 03:34 PM
When i bent a valve and snapped a follower in my SRI, got a new head of a corsa SRI and used the orignal rocker top off the nova lump, put it all together and it wanted to start but it wouldn't in the end i made my mate turn it over while i twisted the dizzy cap and after a couple of turns it started, the thing it it's advanced as far as it can go and thats the only place it will run lol, wierd i no but just try that if you already haven't just twist it as far as it will go til it stops either way, but sounds like an earth or something you sure the gearbox earth anit been caught and come off or anthing stupid?

Adam
03-09-07, 04:01 PM
Have you got the dizzy aligned, so the ignition timing is at least in the correct range for it to run?

Novadaftman
03-09-07, 04:30 PM
could be your coil mate mine done the same and i had to get the top half of my coil replaced and it fired straight up after that but to me it sould like the wiring go roung all your plugs and check all your earths got to be something stupid mate.

a2lt16v
03-09-07, 04:37 PM
the timing marks are all lined up and when number 1 cylinder is right at the top number 4 is on the rocks as you look in the oil filler cap on rocker cover so timing is ok. i have tried adjusting the ingnition timing but no luck.


do you mean when cylinder 1 is up cylinder 4 is down this doesnt sound right to me:confused:

pistons 1 and 4 go up and down together i thought and 2 and 3 together

Stantonio
03-09-07, 04:48 PM
do you mean when cylinder 1 is up cylinder 4 is down this doesnt sound right to me:confused:

pistons 1 and 4 go up and down together i thought and 2 and 3 together

That is right mate.

Adam
03-09-07, 06:00 PM
Hes referring to the cam, numbber 4.
Not the cylinder.

When number one is at tdc tho, both 1 and 4s valves should be completely shut

greg1.4
03-09-07, 07:40 PM
right..i changed the starter so it does not smoke now and its turning over very nicely like she should be and like my other nova.

but... i am not getting a spark now. Does the starter have anything to do with giving the coil power or a spark?? is there anything atal related?? as its weird how i changed the starter and i aint getting a spark now.

any other ideas? what earths do i need to make a spark?? I have put a coil on i know works, new plugs and leads (Which work on my other nova) and a dizzy cap i got off a running nova.:confused:

again any help will be much appreciated

Greg

greg1.4
03-09-07, 08:37 PM
got her running. got another problem though.

please help here,
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86033

Greg