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Will F
11-07-07, 10:44 AM
Having enough of the 1600 16v was a big step for me really, as I had always fought off the big block vs small block arguments, fighting the small block corner!:)

I did however decide that enough was enough with that stupid f*ck*ng 1600 that kep breaking, so I bought an early 2L16v....

Here is the spec... (almost finished)

John Toovey Road and Race Built 20XE

Head:
Extensive porting and CNC headwork, with stainless, one piece, wasted valves. 33mm Inlet, 29mm Exh.
Bronze Valve guides.
Double valve springs, with titanium caps and solid lifters.
Piper 296/300 cams
TurboSport adjustable pulleys
Cometic Head Gasket

Block.
Machined to 87mm with JE forged ?slipper? pistons.
Total Seal rings
Arrow Steel Rods
Uprated big end and main bearings
Knife Edged crank
Arp bolts throughout
Modified Swindon Race Baffled sump kit
Lightened flywheel/crank pulley

Injection

Jenvey/SBD taper 45mm Throttle bodies
Pico Injectors
90mm trumpets
MBE 967 Management

Gearbox:
Standard Recon F20
Quiaffe ATB Diff


Not going to pretend it has *** bhp/torque, cos I just dont know until I get it mapped, but it should go well!:)

I have some pics somewhere of it being built up, so I sould add it to the projects section really!lol
TomMan
11-07-07, 10:47 AM
sounds awesome mate, get some pics up.
Will F
11-07-07, 11:23 AM
Here are the ones I can find...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/Foy/DSC07370.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/Foy/DSCF1482.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/Foy/DSCF1481.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/Foy/DSC07366.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/Foy/DSC07372.jpg
Stuart
11-07-07, 11:23 AM
I'd say about 150bhp and 50lbft of torque.... purely because you are a welshie lol
Will F
11-07-07, 11:30 AM
:)
I really wouldnt be surprised if that was the case, judging by my current luck with engines.
Stuart
11-07-07, 11:35 AM
ahh with that in mind, i say 100bhp then :D
dhdev (Oli)
11-07-07, 12:03 PM
I did however decide that enough was enough with that stupid f*ck*ng 1600 that kept breaking


i'm so close to that point too. I'm genuinely relieved if I make it to the end of a ten mile journey without engine failure! :cry:

Your new spec sounds :cool:
hendrix
11-07-07, 12:26 PM
yeah sounds awesome will
Adam
11-07-07, 12:26 PM
Sounds like a very cool spec.
tom_beverley
11-07-07, 12:35 PM
Will, that spec sounds awesome :cool:

See you've got your 1600 valver done now Ad :thumb: , I've just bulit my new 8v but thinking about a breathed on 16v in a couple of years lol
Ernie
11-07-07, 12:37 PM
Sounds good Will and you are welcome in the big block dark side lol.
burgo
11-07-07, 01:17 PM
wow very nice spec indeed
craig green
11-07-07, 01:20 PM
Hope it stays together for you....

Is it the same engine builder you use for all your motors?
Will F
11-07-07, 01:54 PM
lol at Oli I was exactly the same!

I was thinking about uprating a few bits on the 1600 for piece of mind, just as it left 30% of the bottom end on the M4. I was almost relieved when I realised I couoldnt fix it!lol

Craig, nah this is all new to me. I used someone in Swindon before that. I have also just found out that there is an ex-formula one engine builder about 500 yards from my house who has just started on his own.

I will ensure I make friends with him ASAP!;)
nova ian
11-07-07, 02:34 PM
Wow, sounds top notch! So good I just dribbled on my keyboard!

I'm sure Toovey build alot of engines for hot rods and oval racing if im not mistaken.

Awesome spec mate, one I can only dream about! Keep us updated on it, I for one will be very interested in seeing power figures etc...

I am in the process of rebuilding my early XE at the moment, Its the first ever time I have ever attempted it and am just statying standard for now bar a mantzel power cap.

I will be happy if it runs! lol

Anyway, keep us posted

Ian
Dar
11-07-07, 02:49 PM
That sounds top notch!:thumb:
Will F
11-07-07, 03:18 PM
Thanks All, this particular spec is very similar to some of the hod-rod and oval specs actually. They usually run on carbs though. Will be interested to see what it can do when I map it...

As long as its around 200, I will be happy. The torque is what I want though! lol
dhdev (Oli)
11-07-07, 03:33 PM
The torque is what I want though! lol

You'll need it to drag that heavy block along lol lol lol
Paul
11-07-07, 03:49 PM
welcome to the world of real engines lol
Will F
11-07-07, 05:03 PM
You'll need it to drag that heavy block along lol lol lol

lol

Here we go!

Seems funny being on this side!;)
Adam
11-07-07, 06:22 PM
See you've got your 1600 valver done now Ad :thumb: , Yup:D :thumb:
John
11-07-07, 07:49 PM
Hmmmm, toovey built eh? bet that wasn't cheap Lol!
Nice spec tho will, How long will this one last!
dhdev (Oli)
12-07-07, 08:25 AM
lol

Here we go!

Seems funny being on this side!;)

It'll seem even funnier when your still lapping and I'm getting towed bk in by the recovery truck :cry:
Hang on I mean.... Of course I'll have already been able to put in a full days worth of lapping, whereas you'll be mastering your three point turns after understeering into the barriers at every corner ;) thats more like it :p
Will F
12-07-07, 08:29 AM
It'll seem even funnier when your still lapping and I'm getting towed bk in by the recovery truck :cry:
Hang on I mean.... Of course I'll have already been able to put in a full days worth of lapping, whereas you'll be mastering your three point turns after understeering into the barriers at every corner ;) thats more like it :p

;)
May invest in a hydraulic handbrakelol