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Film board have banned manhunt 2 in the UK (better get a copy of ebay then!).
Is this a dark day for video gaming and censorship?
Who decides what we can "play"?
Thoughts...
NovaLad
19-06-07, 11:12 PM
Is that the new one with the church in it ?
dunno - but apparantly they said it was so bad they couldnt even suggest edits or cut scenes to Rockstar games because the whole thing was shocking!
They reckon it's "bleak" - like the weather I guess...
Heres the report - (from a Wii site)
UK, June 19, 2007 - Manhunt 2 (http://wii.ign.com/objects/883/883115.html) on Wii and PlayStation 2 has been banned after the British Board of Film Classification refused to give the game a rating due to its "unremitting bleakness and callousness of tone... which constantly encourages visceral killing with exceptionally little alleviation or distancing".
Speaking about the ban, BBFC director David Cooke director said that to issue a certificate to Manhunt 2 "would involve a range of unjustifiable harm risks, to both adults and minors, within the terms of the Video Recordings Act, and accordingly that its availability, even if statutorily confined to adults, would be unacceptable to the public".
He went on to explain that it was a decision that hadn't been taken lightly and normally the board would "try to consider cuts or, in the case of games, modifications which remove the material that contravenes the BBFC's guidelines." However, because the violent themes run so deeply throughout the game the BBFC couldn't recommend cuts that would allow Manhunt 2 a UK release, although Rockstar does have the right to appeal against the decision.
Cooke said: "Manhunt 2 is distinguishable from recent high-end video games by its unremitting bleakness and callousness of tone in an overall game context which constantly encourages visceral killing with exceptionally little alleviation or distancing. There is sustained and cumulative casual sadism in the way in which these killings are committed, and encouraged, in the game."
The ban may come as a suprises to some, considering the original Manhunt game - which courted much controversy and also featured violent themes and brutal killings - was given an 18 certificate by the BBFC in 2003. However, David Cooke said that the sequel couldn't be viewed in the same context. "The game's unrelenting focus on stalking and brutal slaying and the sheer lack of alternative pleasures on offer to the gamer, together with the different overall narrative context, contribute towards differentiating this submission from the original Manhunt game," he explained.
Carmaggedon is the only other videogame to be refused classification by the BBFC. The ban was overturned in 1997 after publisher SCi and developer Stainless Games appealed against the decision and the humans - which you ran over in the game - were replaced with zombies to make the experience less visceral and offensive.
Rockstar has yet to comment on the ban despite several attempts to contact them. We'll keep you updated with further developments throughout the day.
doesnt look too bad (cough) -
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/784/784806/manhunt-2-20070501011425779.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/792/792012/manhunt-2-20070525003834063.jpg
NovaLad
19-06-07, 11:29 PM
I was watching news and don't know if it was man hunt but there was a game that has been banned or something for having a picture of James Bulger < the lad that got put on the railway tracks) in one of the shots of the game.
Have you seen this?
its fcuking pathetic, banning a video game :tard:
what ever next...
Well, any cause that may make you violent must be banned. Next you'll have to use rubber hammers and plastic knives lol
The government and it's bodies are only looking out for you.
(so you can pay more tax)
damn damn damn damn I was really looking forward to manhunt 2.... feckers!
law and order 2 is the one thatsa been pulled today BEFORE its been banned.
the church one is resistance fall of man..... who gives a rats ass if its a church and you go in there shooting, have they not seen taht you do the same in Rainbow 6 Vegas, Gears of War, Saints Row, GTA.... all these games are killing "humans" (bar GoW) with guns in vicious ways at times...
The censors and die a painfull bloddy death for all i care. They let films like Saw, Hostel etc through but not a game, double standards!!!
and from the website that gives you canerous birdflu aids MORE double standards
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6768695.stm
oh so a game cant show it BUT the BBC website can... again.... for no good reason.... awesome.
wisewood
20-06-07, 08:16 AM
The problem with the church thing in RFOM was that it was modelled on the actual cathedral, rather than just being some randomly drawn church. The pope or one of his underlings had a bit of a whinge about it. Would they prefer that the evil dooers who you are shooting at were to take up residence in their place of worship? and use it as a HQ for all of their evil doings? I think not!
and the church dont do evil things, like bum choir boys?....... oh sorry that little missdemenour goes away as its the church and they are "alowed" to do that.
wisewood
20-06-07, 08:28 AM
i heard someone say the other day "people like that shouldnt be allowed to reproduce".
errr, hello, people like that wont reproduce, all the want to do is chuck their muck over a choirboys cheeks.
indeed.
"people like that shouldnt be alowed to live" might be more of a valid comment.
meh, that game looks/sounds tame compared to my local on a fri/sat night lol
The problem with those types of video games, is that the social retards that have been allowed to watch/play those types of things at the age of 2 by mummy and daddy, can't recognise the difference between reality and a video game.
Matt2107
20-06-07, 12:57 PM
Disappointed to say the least.
The first one was amusing.
Essentially the whole Manhunt series was based around finding different ways/objects to kill people.... wholesome family entertainment if you ask me.
"The game made me violent" is a classic excuse from someone who's been caught and is to much of a gimp to admit it.
Murder is in everyone... but most are able to keep it under control.
For example... how many of you killed bugs in the garden as soon as you could walk? Classic example is the daughter in Kill Bill 2. She takes her goldfish out the bowl and stamps on it. She knows what will happen but does it anyway as she's curious.
Just because I play Gears of War doesnt mean I'm gonna pop to Homebase and buy a chainsaw to chop people up with.
I'm rambling... I'll shut up now.
AndyGSi
20-06-07, 01:52 PM
This is really disappointing. Manhunt 2 was the first Wii game I was really looking forward to. There seems to have been a bit of a good game drought of late.
I'm off to America in a few weeks so hopefully I'll be able to pick up a copy over there.
pick up a few. bet you could sell them on for decent profit.
OBV as i gave you this idea i get one for cost lol.
I too was looking forward to turning the happy friendly wii into a killing machine
Look on eBay soon, Sun says its on there fo ?27.99 but i couldnt find it
didnt they ban the first one too??
"The game made me violent" is a classic excuse from someone who's been caught and is to much of a gimp to admit it.
Shizzle, I'll blame my next speeding ticket on NFSC, that should get me off.
Its all good, free marketing for the game anyway.
the first one was only banned in canada and australia
I think Rockstar have been blackballed by the censors now - no matter what they release (unless it involves fluffy bunnies) it'll get banned or censored.
The school bully game (canne mind the name) was the last one that got them into hot bother...
It'll get released - they cant not release it due to the money pumped into it - they'll just cut HUGE sections out of it - or more like Rockstar they'll lock big gory sections with "secret passwords" like San Andreas that some geeky nerd will crack ijn 5 seconds and the flood the net with the hack for free!
As said - it's all hype that (like their other games) will make the latest Rockstar game ther biggest ever.
Oh - and the latest is that the censors had a "word" with the makers of the latest Tomb Raider game - scale Lauras tits down a couple a bra sizes or it's gonna get shelved!!!
You LOOKIN at ma Bra
http://www.bremer.cx/gfw/homepages/flatliners/lara_croft7_1.jpg
hoptfully it will get a full uncut release in europe so it can be purchased... a US copy would be in Never The Same Colour as opposed to PAL.
wisewood
21-06-07, 08:42 AM
thats just laughable. you cant scale down lara crofts breasts - they're what made the sodding franchise what it is.
or more like Rockstar they'll lock big gory sections with "secret passwords" like San Andreas that some geeky nerd will crack ijn 5 seconds and the flood the net with the hack for free!
Yeah but the "hot coffee" section in San Andreas caused them bother after it was discovered. Imagine what would happen if Rockstar said they'd cleaned up Manhunt 2, only for the censors to find all the content was still there, just "hidden"!
wisewood
21-06-07, 09:15 AM
to release the gore, just do "up right left down X triangle down up R2"
Laras boobs have gone from Madonna styled pointy to mahoosive in TR4 and then they shrunk :(
wisewood
21-06-07, 10:47 AM
I think i read somewhere that her 'official size' is a 34DD - they had to pad Angelina Jolie out to that size for the films as she wasn't big enough.
puss puss
21-06-07, 11:04 AM
intrested i really dont see what the problem is with a some violence in a game i play a lot of first person shotters all the time doesnt really make me want to go and kill someone... if i get killed in the game ill scream down the headset and then feel better lol.
Manhunt 1 wasnt banned in the UK but Manhunt2 is...
am surprised rockstar are just going to seat back about this will be intresting to hear what they have to say.
Humn... I'm not a big gamer, but am a rifle owner. I'll have to see on my next renewal if there is a new section for playing violent games.
intrested i really dont see what the problem is with a some violence in a game i play a lot of first person shotters all the time doesnt really make me want to go and kill someone...
Yes, but I think part of the reason why Manhunt 2 was disliked by the BBFC was due to the nature of the violence:
in Manhunt 2, players can saw their enemies? skulls in half; mutilate them with an axe; castrate them with a pair of pliers; and kill them by bashing their heads into an electrical box, where it is blown apart by a power surge. On Wii, players will not merely punch buttons or wield a joystick, but will actually act out this violence...
...One review describes using a saw blade to 'cut upward into a foe's groin and buttocks, motioning forward and backward with the Wii remote as you go'.
Running round with a variety of guns as a counter terrorist/SWAT/Delta/SAS/WW2 Commando/etc etc is a little different. One assumes even the more mentally-flaky members of society could detatch that from reality, where as castrating someone with a pair of pliers could be all too real.
Not that I'm defending the decision btw...
Incidentally, it seems the ESRB in the states (which can't legally enforce ratings, like the BBFC do here) has allowed it with an AO/18+ rating. Word is Rockstar wanted it to be an M/17 rating so may well challenge it, can't see them being that successful.
Thing is, it doesn't matter what the rating for the game is. If little Johnny has it on his birthday/xmas list, mummy and daddy will buy it for him because he's spoilt. Ratings don't mean anything.:roll:
wisewood
21-06-07, 02:52 PM
all forms of entertainment should be banned imho.
all forms of entertainment should be banned imho.
boring cnut lol
Matt2107
22-06-07, 01:07 PM
Thing is, it doesn't matter what the rating for the game is. If little Johnny has it on his birthday/xmas list, mummy and daddy will buy it for him because he's spoilt. Ratings don't mean anything.:roll:
I hate school holidays.... Xbox live is always full of kids playing 15 and 18 rated games. Youngest I've encountered was an 8 year old playing Geras of War.
....but I bet they were better than you at it lol
The point of a game is, you get to do what you 'probably' wouldnt do in real life. IE Shoot people, drive F1 cars etc etc.
Its just going to be another big blanket ban to weed out the few who dont have a grip on reality.
Lee is most dissapointed that the game "manhunt" was about killing people and not finding strangers to bum
Philsutton
23-06-07, 08:50 PM
lmfao what they should really do is ban people with dangerously low IQ's, then we wouldnt be in this mess to start with.
Matt2107
25-06-07, 01:04 PM
....but I bet they were better than you at it lol
You must be joking me... I pwn anything that gets in my way.
Although I've yet to play anyone across Live from here.
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