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Right, fitted the engine and all the melarky.
Put some fuel in today, didnt fire up, there IS a spark off the coil, but it sounds like its not getting fuel :confused:
The fuel pump: Is the end with the 2 electrical contacts the end that GOES to the engine, or back to the tank?
Fuel lines: The line coming from FPR is the RETURN? Yes?
The HT Leads: (From top, rear) Top rear is furthest cyclinder from dizzy, bottom rear is 3rd furthest away, bottom front is 2nd fruthest, top front is next to dizzy? Yes?
Pump goes TO engine.
Can you hear/feel the pump buzzing when/if it runs?
Line from the regulator is the return aye.
HT leads- Are 1,3,4,2 in a anti clockwise direction. 1 is the top right lead, 3 top left etc. Even with a lead or two on wrong place, it would run/fire, badly tho.
Is the enigne firing? Or just turning over and over?
Pump comes on, it starts buzzing
The engine is just turning over and over, but not firing?
Cyclinder 1 is top right, cyclinder 3 is top left, cyclinder four bottom left, cyclinder 2 is top right?
HT leads like this:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/mikenova/Image009-1.jpg
Cyclinder 1 is top right, cyclinder 3 is top left, cyclinder four bottom left, cyclinder 2 is top right?
Aye thats right assuming you meant cyl2 bottom right.
Where have you connected the ignition live to?
Do you have the ecu light wired up?
Ignition live is connected to the thickest black wire coming off the barrel
ECU light is: brown/white into brown/blue iirc
The leads were the wrong way round, now sorted it but still no go?
Are you getting a spark at all four plugs?
Perhaps the spark isn't reaching the plugs.
Are you getting a spark at all four plugs?
Perhaps the spark isn't reaching the plugs.
i though that, not tested as yet, as its starting to pish down with rain! There is defiently a spark from the coil though, and the HT leads are new items aswell.
Will check that though
Is the dizzy cap new? looks it.
Check to see if the plugs are wet with fuel.
If so your getting fuel but no spark.
If there completely dry, chances are fuel isn't entering the engine.
Is the dizzy cap new? looks it.
Check to see if the plugs are wet with fuel.
If so your getting fuel but no spark.
If there completely dry, chances are fuel isn't entering the engine.
dizzy cap is new :thumb: sh1t why didnt i think of that! easier then taking fuel lines off ;)
theres not really much of a spark coming from 2 of the plugs, im hoping thats the problem!
Are the plugs new?
No. They were taken from my old SR engine just to get this one running, even tho it doesnt.
The dizzy cap and HT leads are new, the rotor arm and plugs are not. Yet.
Can you change the ht leads(new ones can be faulty), and rotor arm for known working items?
Can you change the ht leads(new ones can be faulty), and rotor arm for known working items?
I could use the HT leads from my corsa, see if its any better, then use the corsa's plugs and go from there.
Burgo seems to think its fuelling, and im begging to think that too
It probably is fuel if ht leads etc are new, and coil sparks.
Altho a weak spark on 2 plugs?
Pump goes TO engine.
My fuel pump is backwards
Ive just removed the fuel line from the filter, and when I arm the pump its sucking anything from the inlet back into the tank lol lol
Now, would it do this if the live and neutral were wired up backwards, OR is the pump itself back to front lol
LOL, that might be the problem.
Just turn the pump itself round.
So its sucking, but from the tank.
Or swap the hoses round.
LOL, that might be the problem.
Just turn the pump itself round.
So its sucking, but from the tank.
Or swap the hoses round.
i will :thumb: apparently, and according to my dad (proper old skool sparky, grade 13th stylee) it would work in reverse if it was wired up backwards, its called "reverse polarity" lol
Nah, i dont think it would tbh.
The pump must have some form of damper moving up and down inside it.
So if you swapped the terminals round it would still move up and down pushing fuel the same way?
Try it if you want, i dont want an arguement with your dad or anything tho lol
Nah, i dont think it would tbh.
The pump must have some form of damper moving up and down inside it.
So if you swapped the terminals round it would still move up and down pushing fuel the same way?
Try it if you want, i dont want an arguement with your dad or anything tho lol
lmfao! well hes more of a Industrial sparky, so not 12v AC :thumb: thats what he reckons anyway.
Anyway, im off to go and try it. :thumb:
from what i remember the side of the pump with the electrical connectors goes towards the engine, if that makes sense.
Anyone got a fuel pump? mines just give up the ghost :(
What killed it? Wiring it up backwards? Lol
What killed it? Wiring it up backwards? Lol
yeah i think so? lol lol ive not even road tested the car, and its going to PV :( i hope to fcuk it all works with no further problems :cry:
What pump are you using?
MPI inside SPI tank?
or a External MPI?
Im slightly confused.
he using an x20xev intake pump outside
Hmm, intank pump should be submerged.
As it pushes fuel, with it outside the tank it will have to pull fuel from the tank.. Probably why it wasn't working too well.
i never had a problem with it on mine
ste porter
27-05-07, 11:15 AM
i got a gsi pump are you using a gsi tank if you want the pump let me know asap mate so we can get you to pv pm me your address
Well, ive just been down the scrappies and borrowed a 2.0 8v intank pump from a Cav, should do the trick :thumb:
Right, got another fuel pump, just put it on the car, and its done the same again?
Worked for about 3 seconds, then stopped. Now wont work again. Ive just connected it upto the car battery to test if its working, and the pump appears to have burnt out, again.
So WTF's going on here?
WTF? Lol
Did you wire it up the right way? My internal pump has a + and - sign on.
Seems very strange, unless the pump was on its last legs anyway, not likely.. But i dont see how you can kill it in 3seconds, unless it didn't like sucking air....
WTF? Lol
Did you wire it up the right way? My internal pump has a + and - sign on.
Seems very strange, unless the pump was on its last legs anyway, not likely.. But i dont see how you can kill it in 3seconds, unless it didn't like sucking air....
yep, was wired up correct way too. its started to pump, then died. Fuse has NOT blown either? and its a 20A fuse :confused: im all out of ideas tbh
Hmm, even direct off the battery(no fuse) it doesn't work?
I'd get a proper external pump and use that, as its designed to be outside the tank, an internal pump should sit in fuel. Altho i dont see that killing the pump in 3 secs.
Hmm, even direct off the battery(no fuse) it doesn't work?
I'd get a proper external pump and use that, as its designed to be outside the tank, an internal pump should sit in fuel. Altho i dont see that killing the pump in 3 secs.
yep, direct off the battery, its no good either.
Well, due to money situation (taxed, insured, a bought parts for the nova) theres now feck all i can do till friday. And if doesnt work then, dont expect to my Nova at PV this year :( for the 4th year now....
[karoke voice] que sera sera, whatever will be will be, the futures not ours to see, que sera sera [/karoke voice]
craig green
29-05-07, 10:00 AM
Bummer. I'd stick the proper external pump on it.
Bummer. I'd stick the proper external pump on it.
Im going to, and hope to feck that it works and stays working lol
craig green
29-05-07, 05:29 PM
Make sure it gets a nice gravity feed of fuel. That will kill it else.
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