View Full Version : info on track tyres??
hi all was just wondering what a good averge priced track tyre would be?
dont want to spend a massive amount of money on some just yet as there just to get me goin for a month or two. i dont want to end up in the nearest tyre wall/ditch either! lol
oh and they have to be road legal too. opinoins please? :)
Welsh Dan
03-05-07, 11:15 PM
Dan uses Goodyear Eagle F1's as his wet tyres if I remember correctly.
I use F1's on the road and they cost me ?52 each inc fitting for 14" ones.
ben lee
03-05-07, 11:39 PM
was looking at the combe track day and most drivers was useing toyo r888 or yoko a048r s.
ben lee
03-05-07, 11:40 PM
also kumho do a road legal track tyre
I would also be interested to see what prices people can get trackday tyres for and any good contacts you have. I am aiming to get some 14" A048rs before the end of the month.
Id recomend NOT going with 14" wheels for track, mainly because its not a common road legal slick size, therefore the money you pay per tyre would get you a far far far better one in a 15" or 13" size (depending on your brake size)
the T888's are good and lots of VX drivers use them too, same with the A048's
Dan (and i to an extend in his car) tried the Kuhmo road legal track tyre Ecsta V70A, they are great tyres and wear well. but once you get them near the end of their life the wall goes goey... no biggie really.
Im looking at getting a set of Hankook Rs-2's as they are reported to be V good + not mega expensive.
Best bet is to look on the camskill site at the tyres they do for motorsport/track days.
AVOID Colway and Maxsport tyres like the plauge lol. they are remoulds and nasty.
oh and for the record, F1's rule... but dont get the GSD3's they are toilet compared to the 2's
dhdev (Oli)
04-05-07, 08:07 AM
I used a set of R888's at Brands Hatch for the first time and I was very impressed, outright grip was excellent, the side walls felt plenty stiff enough and when they broke away it was nice and progressive. They wore quite quickly, but I still have tread left and could probably have increased their life by adjusting tyre pressures. Plus they are fairly cheap for track tyres, IIRC I paid approx ?65 per tyre from www.tyretraders.com (http://www.tyretraders.com)
Toyo R888's from tyretraders are currently ?74.37 each fro 195/50 15's
yeah apparently the 888's want to be run at about 5psi lower than a normal road tyre. anything above 28psi and your going to get odd wear and grip so ive been told
For those running Toyo R888's (http://www.toyo.com.au/Pit%20Lane.htm)
Well to be honest its damn good information anyway.
I use Toyo R888's they are half the price of the Yoko A048's and give the same ammount of grip 'apparently'. However they do not last as long.
soz cant help really as running on a set of comp only use harnkooks that i won at llandow last year.
There **** hot ask Bottlethroddie about his trip out in the stick at combe.
they would be the hankook rs2's? do you use them on the road etc?
na not road legal nore is the car.
To be honest i dont think they would last long on the road but on track they are unbelivable.
If you going for a set of track tyres to take there on a spare set of wheels i cant rate them enough.
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i've had a look for both the kuhmos and the hankooks and cant seem to find any where that does them?? just wondering if you lot knew of a good tyre shop?
type it in google and see what you get
Nangkan.... Nahh ive erm R888s are great but dotn last long.. my mate had a set on his evo 340 and they lasted about 2months the way he drives
well ive found the local hankook and kumho dealers and im going to have ride round today see what prices i can get.
hmm do i bother saying it a third time..... camskill lol
for the hankooks it was about ?293 from mytyres and ?280 from camskill in the two sizes i needed.... for 15" rims they are damn fine value from what i can make out lol
hmm do i bother saying it a third time..... camskill lol
lol yes i wasnt looking hard enough on there website! :tard:
well, the hankooks rs2's are 59 quid on special offer but thats only in the 205 width where as the tyres on my alloys are 195, will they fit?
and the kumhos are 110 quid a piece :tard: so might leave them for now.
It depends on the width of the wheels. 205 should fit on a 6J but I wouldn't fit them on anything slimmer. Of course you would haver to consider whether they will clear your arches too.
I've been using Dunlop SP Gp N radial 185/580 R15 A8 dry slicks - good but at well over 100 notes a pop they are not very cost effective but then nothing that works any sense is and will probably only last 1 or 2 full track days anyway. Slicks are a problem under Nova arches - they have a much sharper shoulder than road tyres so scrubbage is likely
Scubbed tyres- the Toyo Challenge saloon car series - their times on circuits we've been on with similar performing cars look like the scrubbed road toyo's work really well and they reckon they can last pretty well too.There are firms that will scrub tyres down for you but I'm not sure if they are prepared to do it to 2ndhand tyres:confused:
Whatever you do dont go on track with new road tyres in the dry - the heavy tread pattern makes them in effect wets and you will absolutely kill them plus they will overheat and stop gripping.
IMO money spent on getting the best tyres possible is the best value for money performance mod you can do. A standard GTE with decent suspension and the right slicks would rinse many a faster car on most tracks
nice bit of advise there cheers/\/\/\/\ :)
MARTIN KELSON
08-05-07, 08:57 AM
AVOID Colway and Maxsport tyres like the plauge lol. they are remoulds and nasty.
As Stuart put above.
Anybody actually tried them or is this an assumption because they are a re-mold?
I would have thought due to the tread pattern (or lack of) and the soft compound they would be ideal for the price and grip better than any 'normal' road tyre.
Cheers
Martin
depends on your terms of value...... if for example you can get 3 -4 trackdays out of a set of "expensive" tyres compared to 1 day from cheap tyres that cost more than 1/4 of the cost of the expensive ones then they work out less good..... in theory.
MARTIN KELSON
08-05-07, 01:56 PM
So they are rubbish only due to ware rate.
I've tried to fit AO48's in the past and Yoko say there a 195x50x15 is total lie. There a 203x50x15 and the issue with Nova rear arches they were not goint to fit in a million years.
The Maxsport being a 185x55x15 i thought was worth a look at in terms of price and they cant be any worse than my Yoko AVS around Donnington Park.
Might try them for myself as i'am curious to see what there really like.
Cheers
Is there any problems with using full slicks on normal trackdays ?
I'm hoping not !
Martin, its always worth trying.... you might like them etc....
most slicks are "wider" than claimed due to the way the shoulders dont go in like normal road tyres.
Is there any problems with using full slicks on normal trackdays ?
I'm hoping not !
It depends on the circuit. Deffo worth a phone call. Castle Combe don't want you running them. But Llandow and Donnington Park are ok from what i've seen.
MARTIN KELSON
08-05-07, 02:49 PM
Not normally a problem i believe in running slicks.
There were Westfields etc on slicks when i was at Donnington.
Just gotta get the slicked car there or a spare set of wheels.
Nice to just arrive and drive and not have to worry about trailers and spare wheels and tyres in the back of your show car!!
ben lee
08-05-07, 09:35 PM
been looking into road legal trac day tyres thes are the tyres and prices i found after a qwick searh online
195/50r15v
dunlop dz02g ?129
kumho v70a ecsta (soft med heard) ?110
yoko a048r ?112
toyo r888 ?82
hankook rs2 ?79
yeah thats /\/\/\ what i got
just to let you all know was speaking to a hankook dealer today and he said that hankook have stopped doing the rs2's and there not replacing them!
oh nice.... oh well ill try a set and see how they go lol
On my car at the moment I have eagle f1's all round - (195 x 45 x 15) there perfect for me on the road. I was wondering what profile tyre is best suited for trackay use? Im thinking of getting some trackday tyres (probably toyo 888's) but wasnt sure of what profile to get (195 x ? x 15).
George
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