Just How Long Does A Turbo Converted Engine Last?

[olix99]

I am looking for an engine spec for my nova build, i have no idea what to go for as there are so many choices, an LET is out, as i cant get insured.

Thought about an XE, then thought well i want to be different and not follow the crowed, so i instantly thought 1.6.

I knew i had read somewhere about 1.6 Turbo conversions, but in the same thread i also read something Stuart said, about he envisaged converted engines only lasting 10k miles and thats no good really lol :(

So how long do turbo converted engines last?

Also anyone got any ideas for a 100+ BHP 1.6? (any mods are acceptable, like i said, want this to be pretty much unique)

thanks :thumb:

[Nova-Dan]

depends how you treat it,

[Philsutton]

not really, it depends how its built.

[Adam]

I am looking for an engine spec for my nova build, i have no idea what to go for as there are so many choices, an LET is out, as i cant get insured.

A well done, and mapped 1.6 turbo would be knocking on the door of 200bhp too, so dont expect a LET quote to be much different than a turbo'd 1600 quote.

It will as long as its well built with proper parts(pistons etc) not spacer plates, and its mapped correctly and safely.
It'll be reet.

[olix99]

yeah i suppose it would lol

anyone got any ideas on an engine + spec for 120+ BHP without going XE?

[Philsutton]

A 1600 on twin carbs or throttle bodies in either 8v or 16v form. Would be easier an cheaper to build than going turbo.

[General Baxter]

a 1.3 8v turbo, all of 30seconds lol

[Nova-Dan]

A 1600 on twin carbs or throttle bodies in either 8v or 16v form. Would be easier an cheaper to build than going turbo.
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[nova---chris]

Er WTF ^^^^

[Philsutton]

dans a tool dont listen to him

[olix99]

i had thought about 1600 Twin weber 45, cam, pulley, 4 branch and system, didnt think it would hit over 120 BHP though :shock:

[olix99]

dans a tool dont listen to him

ive realised lol

stop spamming my thread dan!

[Stuart]

45's are expensive overkill for a 1600...

[Martin]

i had thought about 1600 Twin weber 45, cam, pulley, 4 branch and system, didnt think it would hit over 120 BHP though :shock:

1.6 8v are 100ish bhp i think

1.6 16 are over 100 aswell right?


i think 120 bhp is easily reachable..


also take a moment to think about other aspects of the car, suspension/brakes etc.. no point having a "tuned" engine for driving "fast" and not been able to take a corner with out ya door handles touchin the floor and if you wanna go faster then you need to be able to stop.. as nova brakes are terriable not even good enough for the 1.0s scared the **** outta me plenty of times


Martin

[General Baxter]

1.6 16v on TB, simple, it will cost about the same as a turbo 1.6 8v!

[Adam]

/\Yeah, but they make there power at say 7-8k rpm, not much use on the road, and naff all torque over std.

Whereas a turbo'd motor would have a shed load of torque, at a more "road friendly" rpm.

Cost wouldn't be that different imo, if you went for "proper" tb's on the 1600 16v, both need mapping etc.

[olix99]

thanks a lot guys, i think its kind of making some sense now :thumb:

i had thought about throttlebodies, but i want this to be a daily use road car and dont want the powerband being at 7k lol

If built propperly would a turbo conversion last a good few thousand miles, like about 50K ? lol

ive got a few engine specs in mind...

1.4 T40
1.6 T40
1.6 TB / managemnt
1.6 Turbo / managemnt

insurance isnt as much of an issue as first thought, i now have a fulltime job with steady income and i CAN get cover on an LET or an XE, im just weird anbd want to be different and not follow the flock :D:thumb:

EDIT: about the other aspects of the car, that is not a problem, was thinking about some Wilwood 4 pots + fast road pads + big discs, some koni coilovers, front and rear strut braces and possibly weld in cage tabbed to the shell, chassis plating kit and a uprated diff of some kind :thumb:

[Nick]

Mine made 140hp, 130(something)Lb/Ft

Only an RR figure, but it's a great engine... (E16SE on 40's)

[craig green]

For the sake of all the above effort, I'd XE it tbh.

More torque than the carb'd or TB 16v options, cheaper to install & have running & ultimately more reliable if a good engine is used & serviced before being fitted.

I prefer an 8v turbo though. Doing it to a big block 8v is less likely to be seen in a Nova, so thats my preference.

[Welsh Dan]

1.6 T40 w/managed ignition? (megajolt?)

[Adam]

A 1.6 8v on mappable management is a good choice.
Seeing as the std tb/inlet is good for a proven 150bhp ;) , with the std 1598cc, not 1650 like some of the other tuned 1600's.

[london_chris]

i disagree with doing an engine cos its different/uncommon. just means more hassle to find the right clutch and other parts to get it running right and also less things out there. ie the xe conversion has all the parts to fit it being sold nationwide and also things like a 4-1 manifold for xe in novas are made etc, just seems easier

[olix99]

/\ i knwo but i like to be awkward lol

Just trying to get all the options before i make a decision, seems the best way to me. Attack it from all angles and when you make a choice you (hopefully) wont be dissapointed cause you concidered everything.

[tom reid]

1400/8v on bike carbs and Megajolt, with a 280 degree cam and a bit of head work, you should see 120bhp no problem.
Watch this space.

[scottc1088]

1400/8v on bike carbs and Megajolt, with a 280 degree cam and a bit of head work, you should see 120bhp no problem.
Watch this space.
may aswell put those on a 1.6 though

how about a 2.0 8v turbo?

[Philsutton]

how about a 2lt 16v turbo?

[R1CH]

how about a 2lt 16v turbo?

Only way to go !!
200 bhp to start with & 280 bhp without to much hassel, any other conversion your just gonna keep wanting to have more power, best to start with a decent engine to begin with then upgrade that !! (imo) !!
:thumb:

[Adam]

1400/8v on bike carbs and Megajolt, with a 280 degree cam and a bit of head work, you should see 120bhp no problem.
Watch this space. Unless you can get a bike carb inlet v.cheaply, theres no reason go for bike carbs over webers/dellorto's imo.

And weber/dellorto's have a big selection of jets, instead of people just drilling the bike carb jets and hoping for the best, Lol.


And to agree with most sensible option, quote the great J.C "To make a super quick engine, start with a fast one in the first place"