1.7 td fires up after 3/4th shelf

[GTE TURBZ]

Hi im currently experience that my 97 1.7 isuzu td astra takes ages firing up, not till sometimes the 4th shelf does it eventually start, and while im attempting to fire it up, chucks out quite abit of smoke (light grey). But once started it runs absolutley fine:confused:

its not loosing oil, but maybe consuming abit more water than usual. cars done 105k

any ideas pls:confused: :thumb:

P.s once started and u turn it off, and start it again, starts 1st time instantly.

[Lee]

Probably the stem seals id guess, theyre leaking oil into the cylinders, therefore making it a bitch to start and blowing all the smoke as it burns it off. My astra van has gone the same way.

[Adam]

Glow plugs?

It will smoke, its diesel,Lol.

[coochiSR]

Yeah id say glow plugs too and wouldnt it be blue smoke if it was stem seals?

[mikey14sr]

Change the glow plugs before going any further.

[GTE TURBZ]

yeah thought about the glow plug, so is the stem seals a costly/big job as im not to clued up on that side??

[GTE TURBZ]

Change the glow plugs before going any further.

is it as simple as changing a spark plug?:confused:

[Lee]

sorry, yeah, glow plugs first, but i was referring to the copious amounts of smoke. And yeah, it would have a blue tinge but its not as easy to spot as on a petrol engine as its not being burned at such a high temperature.

[coochiSR]

kinda, undo the nuts on top of glow plugs, on all 4, then remove wire. Then undo plugs, re-fit new ones and connect wire back on. And stem seals is a fairly big job, head off etc.

[GTE TURBZ]

kinda, undo the nuts on top of glow plugs, on all 4, then remove wire. Then undo plugs, re-fit new ones and connect wire back on. And stem seals is a fairly big job, head off etc.

i'll change the glow plug, if no joy sell it or px/ it with something else as i cant be asked to spend major money on it. :thumb:

[tom reid]

Don't sell it, do the glow plugs, see how it goes.
Guess what I have in stock?

[GTE TURBZ]

Don't sell it, do the glow plugs, see how it goes.
Guess what I have in stock?

how much including p&p? (you do mean the glow plug right):)

[Stuart]

hmmm sounds like a business/shop to me now tom :p

glow plugs are about ?20 tops from hellfrauds..
Id be inclined to get a multimeter on the glo-plug wire to see that theya re being turned on first. if theya rent then its likely to be the relay/controller thats fecked.

[GTE TURBZ]

the relay? or relay controller? i havent got a multi-meter any alternative testing method?

[michael harbour]

if you have change glow plugs?? it sound like you need your your hydrulic tapets shims replaced comin fault on high milage isuzu engines hope this info helps.

[tom reid]

[quote=Stuart]hmmm sounds like a business/shop to me now tom :p

Still wrong Stuart :p :p :p :p :p , I got these for a customer, sorry mate, a while ago and haven't bothered returning them to the shop.

?22 posted.

[Stuart]

"got these for a customer"

if your not acting as a business WTF do you have customers for? lol unless your a hoe and some perverts like glow plugs and brake lines near them lol

[GTE TURBZ]

:thumb:
think ill hand it over to my local garage they can do all the testing whether the glow plus are getting heated etc.... but thanks evryone for your advise, much appreciated.

[Stuart]

where abouts are you?

[GTE TURBZ]

west london 10 mins from LHR airport

[SRI crazy]

it might be letting the diesel back and then all the turning is sucking it back up to the injector pump?

[GTE TURBZ]

Turned out to be the glow plugs. local garage charged me ?70 cash thus did not register the VAT otherwise ?85.

called vaux it was roughly ?9 per plug so bouts ?40 there so ?30 labour to test and fit.

[Adam]

There about ?15 from halfords iirc

[General Baxter]

There about ?15 from halfords iirc

yeah but i allways find gm stuff works better in a gm car, + halfords stuff is crappy lol

[Adam]

Lol, there probably made by the same company anyway :p

[General Baxter]

pay for the name ;)