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pow
19-03-07, 05:08 PM
Does a nova gsi have square or circle inlet ports?

Also how can you tell the engines apart? does the GTE only have OHC on the rocker cover

loggyboy
19-03-07, 05:29 PM
The engines are identical. (both will have 'fuel injection' and ohc)

the only differnce is very late gsis which have the c16se engine, which is identifilale by its lack of airflow meter on the induction pipe, will have nothing where the 'fuel injection' usual is, and will also have c16se stamped on the block instead of e16se

burgo
19-03-07, 05:55 PM
and they have circle ports ;)

maccas
19-03-07, 10:32 PM
aren't the cambelt covers different on a e16se and a c16se, i.e round top on the e16se and flat top on the c16se, correct me if i am wrong lol

Philsutton
19-03-07, 10:37 PM
they are circle shape ports, same as all mpi 8v vauxhalls. None of the mpi engines came with flat top cam covers, thats if what i think you mean it is.

maccas
19-03-07, 11:27 PM
nah i meant the cambelt covers, weren't the e16se tensioned using the water pump and the c16se using the automatic tensioner, i thought that all engines with an automatic tensioner had flat top cambelt covers, if you see what i mean?

burgo
19-03-07, 11:51 PM
well you learn something new every day

e16se with rounded top
http://www.topbuzz.co.uk/info/engine_codes/b001.jpg

and c16se with flat top
http://www.opellove.com/etc/Meeting/images/a5_5.jpg

burgo
19-03-07, 11:54 PM
and this would be the automatic tensioner for the c16se
http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/08/f3/96/cb_1.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Drive-Belt-Tensioner-Vectra-Astra-Calibra_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ200076730664

and i have an e16se so know you use the water pump to tension them!

so a gold star for maccas i think

Adam
20-03-07, 12:46 AM
Some e16se's had flat top cambelt covers too :p

ste porter
20-03-07, 03:22 AM
also 1 is dizzy 1 is diz pack also the early engine had a coasting air control valve and no map sensor

also fuel presure regulators are different the early engine uses one like the xe lumps

most of the early engines had metal rocker covers the later ones had plastic
ones

later engines had a metal cased ecu that goes inside the car

later engines have a black idol control valve that sits on the throttle boddie

there is an adjustment screw for emisions on the airflow meter on the early engines

iirc later engines have a lower rev limit

later engines have a square type inlet manifold

burgo
20-03-07, 05:47 PM
what your basically saying is they have different engine management systems

ste porter
20-03-07, 07:23 PM
yeah but the early engines also had variants on what managment they used aswell but only slight

Adam
20-03-07, 08:32 PM
Yeah, siemens and bosch iirc.

C16se had Multec management.