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Matt2107
12-03-07, 02:37 PM
I've recently signed up for Virgin Media (formerly ntl) 2mb broadband package.

We initially plugged into our desktop computer which was fairly old and generally knackered. The broadband connected at 1mb but ran like a crock of ****. This wasn't a problem as a new laptop had already been ordered.

We've been using the laptop for a while and the connection has always been 1mb. The other day my gf called the customer service line to report it as a fault. The guy on the phone then asked her lots of questions which could be used as an excuse for only running at 1mb. For example, what operating system, how much memory, blah blah blah.

Obviously all the questions were given adequate responses. He then asked which virus protection/firewall are we using to which we said PC Guard (virgins's own software.) We had already removed Norton as soon as we unpacked the laptop. He then said he'd like to test the line so got my gf to open command prompt, to which he was sure that there was a firewall on the computer as the test would not bounce back.

He then asked that we restart in safe mode as this will disable any security measures we have. He then tested the line and received a signal back.

His conclusion was that there was definately a firewall on the system.

So the question is... if that's the case then why when I checked the speed of the broadband connection in safe mode is it still running at 1mb. Surely this bloke is wrong about the firewall otherwise in safe mode it would run at 2mb?

We are running straight from the modem to computer at the moment without any router. We are also literally 30m from the telephone exchange so this won't be affecting the speed of our connection.

My theories on this are that Virgin are thinning my connection (and probably a large of other peoples.)

Obviously the small print states "speeds of up to" but it should be quite fair to assume that a full 2mb service can be received when they are offering 10mb on a more expensive package. If I was on the larger package I'd be happy to only receive say 8mb.

wisewood
12-03-07, 02:44 PM
OK, here goes. A very basic description of how it works.

The telephone exchange is the primary control over how fast your line can go. The distance between you and the telephone exchange will reduce the speed that you are able to run - the further you are away, the more degraded it will become.

So, when you sign up for an all you can eat 8mb broadband service, and it only runs at 512k its most likely the distance from the exchange that causes the problem.

What they advertise as "up to" is given that they have a minimum number of exchanges capable of that speed. But even people living a mile from that exchange might only get 50% of that speed.

Hope this makes sense.

It's not as simple as "but you said i can have this, so thats what i want".

Adam
12-03-07, 02:45 PM
VirginMedia=cable connection?
So you should be getting pretty much what you have paid for(2mb connection) as theres no ****e phonelines involved.

What windows is it running?
WindowsXP has a firewall built in...
So even if you assume theres no firewall running, the windows one may be running in the background.

But as you said, if he got a signal back for the test with the pc in safe mode(so no firewall running), and the connection is still the same speed, then it obviously aint a firewall causing the problem.

wisewood
12-03-07, 02:45 PM
PS. Never listen to the muppet in Bombay who reads from a script when you're paying ?2.50 per minute for the helpdesk call. They know nothing and just tell you what the computer tells them to say.

Matt2107
12-03-07, 02:48 PM
Yeah that's good but.....

I kinda got the feeling the guy was looking for an excuse to blame it on.
He was sure that we should be able to receive 2mb.

It's not so much for the computer to be honest.
We've gone from 56k so 1mb is an absolute god send.

I do however find myself being kicked out of the lobby on Xbox Live due to having a slow connection lol.

wisewood
12-03-07, 02:48 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/

Just ran this at work and got 984k download and 245kb upload.
Not bad considering its a shared connection and a few other things will be running online now.

Matt2107
12-03-07, 02:49 PM
It's running XP.

Dpnova
12-03-07, 02:51 PM
run the speed test, and it will also come down to contention ratio on your link to the exchange, ntl have caused me loads of problems, everything from line issues to cabeling issues outside my house

Matt2107
12-03-07, 02:52 PM
How do I run the speed test?

Dar
12-03-07, 02:53 PM
Try this internet speed test http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/
Where where you getting your speed readings from?

Dpnova
12-03-07, 02:53 PM
open the site, and pcik the london location then it will run the test

wisewood
12-03-07, 02:54 PM
How do I run the speed test?

pick a server (the one in yellow is best for you) and then it will run it for you and display the results when its done.

Dar
12-03-07, 03:02 PM
Use wisewood's speed test. It seems better than the one I suggested.

Matt2107
12-03-07, 03:06 PM
Try this internet speed test http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/
Where where you getting your speed readings from?

View Network connections... then status.

Matt2107
12-03-07, 03:09 PM
I'm probably easily amused but how cool is that speed test lol.
Ran it at work and they have 3125 download and 1144 upload.

Thanks for the help... I'll try running it tonight on my laptop and see what I get.

bump
12-03-07, 04:06 PM
The NTL network is a right pig due to it's structure. THere are many bottle necks as essentially it is behaving a a pryamid hub system as opposed to a switching network. Try running the speed test at evening peak times then try running it at 3am to see the difference.

It's hard to explain in a simple manner, but it's a problem that would be best fixed by ripping up all the infrastructure and starting again.

Matt2107
12-03-07, 04:35 PM
I'll definately post the results and I'll run the test at different times.

mikey14sr
12-03-07, 05:06 PM
Firewall wont affect the connection in my experience. I'm on an upto 8meg deal, and rarely get better than 2.5meg, mainly because as the phone line lays in the ground we're 3.2km away from the exchange.

Poor structuring of the network is most likely the problem in your case, here's another site to try for advice, http://www.dslzoneuk.net

But the ntl/virgin media service has had lots of bad reports in the last six months, the average connection for thier 8meg service has dropped half a meg to 2.2meg over the same period.