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Donova
28-02-07, 09:35 PM
Anyone had any problems with this latest cock up?:roll:

JSeymour
28-02-07, 09:38 PM
no, dish the dirt then!

Donova
28-02-07, 09:44 PM
No I haven't it's all down south apparently, and only affects ecu stuff, oxy sensors etc.

Mikey_J
28-02-07, 09:48 PM
Yeah we have at my work...about 15 cars with fried lambda sensors or knackered cats! All within the past 5 days or so

General Baxter
28-02-07, 09:53 PM
there watering down the fuel lol

Mikey_J
28-02-07, 09:56 PM
Lol well apparently its because theres an excess of lead or sulphur in the fuel.....Supermarkets are to blame lol !

General Baxter
28-02-07, 09:58 PM
yep its all the fuel from, asda, tescos, sainsburys, morrisons,

Timmy
28-02-07, 10:09 PM
will it affert a carb?

Geth
28-02-07, 10:13 PM
Apparantly not. I heared on the news that it is only affecting "Electronic Type Engines".

Mikey_J
28-02-07, 10:17 PM
No carbs should be alrite because they dont have a sensor telling it that the car is running rich or weak like injected cars do

Jack
28-02-07, 10:30 PM
Not necessarily the supermarkets that are to blame, its more likely their suppliers that are fcuking up the petrol. Not just one supplier either as Tesco are supplied by Shell whilst BP supply Sainsburys (Sainsburys Super = cheap BP Ultimate lol), for example.

Geth
28-02-07, 10:32 PM
RJ, how the hell do you know all of this crap?

Jack
28-02-07, 10:34 PM
I am a fountain of useless knowledge lol

Donova
28-02-07, 10:40 PM
I think they're making it from potato peelings and old McDonalds chip fatlol

ade
28-02-07, 11:17 PM
according to tonights news it was a contaminated batch that came in on a tanker that wasnt cleaned out properly - cross contaminated with ethanol?!?

causing some major headaches for some people - and they reckon there'll be s shortage of sensors???

bummer!

Apparantly BP Ultimate isnt affected - conventient as thats wack more expensive than normal unleaded.

Petrol selling marketting play me thinks!

Although you have a case under trading standards to reclaim costs of damage from the seller...so they say...

Adam
01-03-07, 12:17 AM
Yeah, saying that there be no lambda sensors available for a while as everyone is needing a new one,Lol.
And it will fook fuel injectors, cat's etc too.

Problems have been reported as far north as scotland, not just southern areas.


Quite weird that i fitted carbs last week,Lol.

Ash
01-03-07, 12:41 AM
ethanol, ehh?? like E85, i always thought you could run on ethanol, suppose you need some 'mods' the the engine tho.

draper
01-03-07, 01:06 AM
hmmm, my old mans work car has been returning a piss poor 40 miles on a tenners worth of fuel the last few days (hes got a W reg honda accord)

wonder if this has anything to do with it ??

M6 AXL
01-03-07, 01:42 AM
The problem is the ethanol is being picked up by the lambda sensor and its shutting the engines down within a few miles of the garage on most occasions.

All Tesco garages are shut and coned off around Wolverhampton tonight as I drove through going to Wales & back. :S

Sounds like a different prob you've got draper.

General Baxter
01-03-07, 07:28 AM
lol all you carb people should offer them 40p per litre to use the nasty stuff up as it wont affect you lol

Jack
01-03-07, 08:27 AM
Meh, well I put ?20 of Tesco's fuel in last night and had no problems. Obviously the petrol is ok down here!


....whats the betting now I've said that my car will konk out on the way home from work today lol

wisewood
01-03-07, 08:30 AM
Happened in Tesco wrexham a few years ago. They did tests and refused to accept it was their fault then too - but pretty much everyone who filled up that day ended up having problems to some extent. Tesco eventually paid for a handfull of people to have their fuel systems cleaned out.

My other half and I had just met at the time, and it was that fuel problem that took her nova off the road - resulting in its untimely death.

Jack
01-03-07, 09:11 AM
According to reports on BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6406801.stm), Greenergy seem to be involved. That doesn't surprise me - they're the suppliers of Tesco's 99RON fuel (which, you'll note, is primarily sold in the South East, where the main problems seem to be) and there's talk of the fuel having too much ethanol in it.

Related? Well, yes. To up the RON value of petrol, ethanol is used. Unfortunately this lowers the calorific value of the fuel, but the average consumer just looks at the high RON value and (incorrectly) assumes higher RON = better fuel. Greenergy attain a 99RON value on their super duper unleaded (the stuff thats sold by Tesco) by adding excessive amounts of ethanol. Seems someone at Greenergy may have got a little over-enthusiastic with the ethanol!

Matt2107
01-03-07, 09:18 AM
All prices at non-supermarket forecourts have gone up round here.
I didn't have time to fill up at Tesco as it's always busy this time of the morning so went to the Total garage across the road from work that's run by Ethnic Majorities ;) A couple of days ago unleaded was priced at 84.9p a litre... it's now 87.4p

Looks like their cashing in on the problem.

Stuart
01-03-07, 09:22 AM
i filled up the night before this problem occured in essex... so far seem to have gotten away with it....

Matt2107
01-03-07, 09:32 AM
i filled up the night before this problem occured in essex... so far seem to have gotten away with it....

I would normally fill up at Sainsburys but since changing job it's a bit out of my way... especially in rush hour. I'm saving up my nectar points for a day at the skid pan lol. I've got 4000... only another 6000 to go.

Lee
01-03-07, 11:38 AM
Its times like this where I love my dirty Derv lol

And im pretty sure the SR would relish a bit of ethanol!

Matt2107
01-03-07, 12:08 PM
www.faultyfuel.com (http://www.faultyfuel.com)

Apparently that has been sent up to offer claim advice.

Riggy
01-03-07, 03:16 PM
PMSL i might blame my **** RR figure on my morrisons petrol then lol

Donova
01-03-07, 07:03 PM
Some of the lowlife will be drinking it, think they said Methanollol

rdanny
01-03-07, 08:23 PM
is it just petrol??

diesels ok then??

Saloony
01-03-07, 08:29 PM
I havent bought supermarket fuel since 2001, tescos always played havoc with the 1.0l back in the day, always fell to 1cylinder. Since then ive never stroked there nosels.

rdanny
01-03-07, 08:34 PM
iv allways liked ultimate unleaded tbh

Stanley
01-03-07, 10:09 PM
My mate went all the way down to Leeds (from Scottish border) today to pick up a BMW he's been wanting for ages.


he left with his BMW happy as larry, filled up with go-go-gas and 20-25miles later engine went pop haha.

More details to follow.

I feel like taking my dads carb'd F reg Nissan van out and drive past the queue's at the petrol pumps hanging out of the window cracking lighters open haha

Rich
01-03-07, 10:36 PM
I got a free tank of petrol out of all this lol

Someone panicing after putting a full tank in, came into our garage to get their tank emptied, out of theirs into mine havent got a problem yet after 40 odd miles

:)

Matt2107
02-03-07, 09:51 AM
I got a free tank of petrol out of all this lol

Someone panicing after putting a full tank in, came into our garage to get their tank emptied, out of theirs into mine havent got a problem yet after 40 odd miles

:)

Bet you charged them for doing it too. lol

Stuart
02-03-07, 10:44 AM
hmmm so how many of you chimps are running super in a nova that isnt really setup to make optimal use of it? lol

JSeymour
02-03-07, 11:13 AM
me, i can feel the difference as soon as i top up. recon it gives me atleast 20brake up on standard!

Stuart
02-03-07, 12:09 PM
please be, being sarcastic.. lol

JSeymour
02-03-07, 02:35 PM
pfff like id spend an extra 10p a litre for a few rons more or what ever makes it so super duper!

Adam
02-03-07, 02:43 PM
I've never bought super, ever,Lol.

Jack
02-03-07, 02:48 PM
I used to buy Optimax, but when it changed to VPower two of my spark plugs failed, one after the other. CBA with it now and just use mostly Sainsburys SUL, or Tescos SUL if theres no Sainsburys nearby. Car seems more than happy on that.

Dar
02-03-07, 05:19 PM
Who reckons this guy contacted Sky just so he could pose with his Porker.
I have a Porsche (http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-petrolreid_010307_1400,00.html)