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Jack
12-02-07, 11:38 PM
Made a few haphazard posts on this subject, so thought a complete thread might be in order :D

First; thanks to Johny and Al from CCUK for advice on said Celica forum. I'm far from their expertise, but shows that a little knowledge and some good products can give great results.

Ok, the products I use are primarily Megs items; they're expensive, but quality costs and you only need to use a small amount of each product. They should last you a long time, and can be purchased from a wide range of high street stores (including Halfrauds), and online retaillers. Feel free to use alternate products, but I would recommend using at least the Megs cut, polish and wax, as well as the Lambswool Wash Mitt.

You may not need every product listed below unless you fancy following every stage in this guide - and spending a lot of money too! However, the products used are thus:

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Scratch-X
Quik Clay
Quick Detailler Mist Spray
NXT Generation Car Wash
Stage 1 Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner (Cut)
Stage 2 Deep Crystal Polish (Polish)
Stage 3 Deep Crystal Carnuba Wax (Wax)
NXT Glass Cleaner - windows
Hot Rims All Wheel Cleaner
Hotshine Tyre Spray
NXT Generation? All Metal Polysh
Gold Class trim detailler

...and these are the tools used:

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Two buckets
Watering Can - avoid using a pressure washer
Gold Class Even Coat Applicator Pads - You'll need at least three, one for each stage of cut/polish/wax
Leather Chamois
Microfibre Cloths - get these from Tesco. You'll need a few!
Lambswool Wash Mitt - I highly recommend the Megs one!
Ultrasafe Wheel Spokebrush

Ok, you've got some products, and some tools, so lets get started.


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NEVER wash a hot car. Not only will you damage the paint, you could run the risk of damaging the engine - cold water on hot engine = not wise! Also choose your location and day wisely, you don't want your car being rained on whilst you're cleaning it, conversely you shouldn't be washing it in direct sunlight either. If you have a garage, or somewhere undercover then put the car in there to dry after the initial washing stages.


http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Stage 1 - Clean
First you need to remove surface contaminants from your car's paintwork. In the winter this will be mostly mud, grime, and road salt. In the summer you'll be looking to chisel off tar spots, dust, and bugs. Contaminants are best removed quickly before they have time to set, harden and eat into your paintwork; its always a better to spend five minutes each summer evening rinsing dead bugs off your car than spend an hour each weekend trying to chisel them off.

You may wish to rinse the car over to remove loose dirt and dust before beginning - a watering can is ideal for this, rather than a pressure washer. Excess mud and dirt should be left to the wash stage (using the Lambswool Wash Mitt), you can always clay-bar again afterwards this stage.

For heavy contamination the clay bar will work wonders and bring your car up to a good shine (you can also use a Bug & Tar Remover spray, but this won't bring the paint up as well as the clay bar). Break the clay bar into thirds, you don't need to use all of it - also if you drop a piece you can chuck it out and use one of the remaining thirds. Mould the clay bar in your hands to warm it up and make it pliable, then spray a liberal amount of Quik Detailler on the paintwork and rub the clay bar across the panel. Regularly fold the clay bar back on itself, so you're not scraping any attracted contaminants across the paint. If the clay bar starts dragging on the surface, spray on more Quik Detailler to keep it lubed up! Once done, buff the treated surfaces with a Microfibre cloth.

Next, treat any scratches or minor scrapes with Scratch-X. Apply a little of the paste to a lint free cloth and work into the scratch, then again buff off with a Microfibre cloth.


http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Stage 2 - Wash & Rinse
Once the contaminants have been treated, you can begin to wash the car. Fill up your watering can and one of the two buckets with plain water. The second bucket, pour in a little of the NXT Generation Car Wash (2-3 capfulls should suffice), and fill with lukewarm water. The idea is you use the watering can to rinse the car over, making sure it gets a good soaking - refill and use a few times if required - then apply the soapy water with the Lambswool Wash Mitt. The mitt should pick up any excess contaminants, the rear of the mitt also has a mesh which is excellent for scrubbing particular areas. Use the first bucket, with the plain water in, to periodically rinse the mitt off in, thus releasing any dirt its collected. General rule of thumb is to begin at the top of the car, and work your way down.

Once the car has had a good going over, rinse thoroughly with more plain water from the watering can. Be sure to remove all the soapy residue. In hot weather you may find it better to keep rinsing both washed and unwashed panels as you apply the soapy water, so the car doesn't dry out in the sun.

Once the car is rinsed off, turn your attention to the wheels - similar process to the rest of the car (rinse, wash, rinse) although don't use the Lambswool Wash Mitt for this as it can pick up corrosive brake dust which can damage your paint in the future. A basic sponge and/or Ultrasafe Wheel Spokebrush will suffice. To remove excess brake dust and contaminants from the wheel, use the Hot Rims All Wheel Cleaner with the brush - this is safe for use on all wheels, and does not contain harmful acids such as cleaners like wonder wheels. Once cleaned, rinse the wheels and the bodywork surrounding the arches in case any brake dust was splashed up onto the car in the process.


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After final rinsing, I prefer to use a large leather Chamois. Meguiars do offer a "water magnet drying towel" although I've never found this to be as good as a decent chamois for removing water.

As with the washing stage, begin at the top and work your way down with the chamois; my order is roof, bonnet, spoiler (in a Nova's case, bootlid or tailgate), then front bumper, sides and rear bumper. Make sure to get all the water out of the gaps between panels where possible - open the bonnet and doors, and give the tops of the wings and inside/round the doors a wipe down with a cloth to remove any trapped water, then chamois if required.

If its not already, put the car undercover, in a garage, etc. You need to leave it a while for the bodywork to dry out properly, so go make a cup of tea or four. Ideally, the car will need as much as 24 hours to dry out, but if you don't have all day to hang around you can wait for an hour or two.


http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Stage 4 - Detail
Detailling is where you clean small details of the car - trim, windows, hard to access areas, tyres etc.

To begin with, most car washes (and Megs is no exception) contain some form of wax. This, and the chamois, can leave windows with a greasy sheen. To remove, spray on a small amount of NXT Glass Cleaner (being careful not to spray it all over the clean paint work) and wipe in with a Microfibre cloth. Fold the cloth over to the dry side and buff off to a smooth finish. Shine up the rubber window surrounds with some Gold Class Trim Detailler to help preserve the life of the rubber.

If you have plastic bumpers, and the car has had time to fully dry, now you can apply some back to black bumper treatment. As my Celica doesn't have any external bumper trim, I've not yet used a Megs product for this, although I used to use Simoniz Back To Black on my old Nova with good results.

Treat the tyres with some Hotshine Tyre Spray, being careful to keep the mist away from the car's bodywork and brake discs/pads. Spray closely and fairly liberally, wipe round with a cloth to get even coverage on the tyres, and wipe any dribbles or overspray off the alloys. Might seem a bit obvious, but only use this on the sidewall of the tyre, not the tread section (yes, one of the local kroooze site members did his entire tyre).

Jack
12-02-07, 11:39 PM
http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Stage 5 - Polish
Now that the car has had time to dry out properly, and the smaller detailling has been completed, it should be looking quite clean. However, you can go further and bring the paint back up to a factory fresh finish with some cut and a few coats of polish.

Start by applying the Stage 1 Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner to the car - put a small amount onto the Even Coat Applicator Pad, and work into the paint. Finish by wiping the pad across the paint in an even front-to-back motion to avoid swirly marks. You should be at a point where the majority of the cut has been worked into the paint, so that it leaves a dull sheen but no visible residue. Buff off with a Microfibre Cloth, and move onto the next section of paint.

Once the cut has been applied, go back and apply the Stage 2 Deep Crystal Polish. Begin with a clean applicator pad, put on a small amount of the polish, work into the paint, and finish by wiping in a front-to-back motion. As with the cut, there should be a dull finish to the paint, but no residue (an advantage of the Megs stuff over TCut is the former doesn't leave white dust behind like the TCut does). You need to buff the polish off before it dries out.

For particularly badly faded areas, apply the polish and work deep into the paint, then quickly apply another coat of polish and again work this into the paint. Buff off for a quality finish.


http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Stage 6 - Protect
Cut and polish will bring a good shine back to old paintwork, but to keep that look you need to protect the paint from the elements. This is where wax comes in.

As with the cut and polish, apply the Stage 3 Deep Crystal Carnuba Wax to a clean applicator pad and work into the paint. However, unlike the cut and polish, the longer you leave the wax to 'set', the better the finish will be. Work your way across the car with the wax, then go make a cup of tea - you're almost finished. Buff off with a Microfibre cloth, beginning where you started applying the wax.

For best protection, repeat this stage so you have built up at least two layers of wax.


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If you've followed the above stages, your car's paintwork and trim should have a factory shine to it, and the paint should feel smooth like glass. To keep the car looking this way, and to make future washing easier, follow these tips:

http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Wipe off contaminants quickly - Bugs, tar, tree sap, road salt - all are bad for paintwork. Wash, wipe, or rinse off as quickly as possible. Bird poo can be especially acidic and eat into paintwork, so should be rinsed off with plenty of water asap.

http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Use Quik Detailer if you need to need to clean a section of your car up but don't have time for a full wash/polish/wax. Handy to keep a spray and cloth in the car.

http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Avoid using abrasives on your wheels, a soft-bristled plastic brush should suffice. Acidic wheel cleaners are a no-go.

http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Don't keep cutting your paint as although a quick cut can bring the paint up it also cuts it back (hence the moniker "cut"!). Megs Stage 1 is a relatively light cut, where as polishes such as TCut and Turtlewax can remove considerably large layers of paint

http://forums.futura-sciences.com/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif Avoid blasting the car with pressure washers as this can score dirt and dust into the paintwork. Pressure washers should be at most used under wheel arches only to remove road salt and built up dirt which would otherwise sit there and rot the car.

draper
13-02-07, 06:31 AM
or pay polish/kosovans a few quid, usually found in abadoned petrol stations lol


good guide RJ, if i had any motivation id clean/detail mine evry now and again

Martin
13-02-07, 04:59 PM
Niceone jack just read it all.. of to order some of the other bits i need on friday and giv it ago at weekend.. any pics of your car after the full shurbang?

BigStan
13-02-07, 05:27 PM
Couldnt be bothered to read it but looks good ! lol

goldengraham
13-04-07, 06:00 PM
just read it all, looks good, will have a go at doing this step by step myself once i can be bothered!

NovaLad
13-04-07, 06:03 PM
It's liek a harry potter book ..

Jack
13-04-07, 07:16 PM
Not sure I ever remember reading the tale of Harry Potter cleaning his car... :wtf:


any pics of your car after the full shurbang?
Just a couple, apologies for the crappy phone cam pics

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NovaLad
13-04-07, 07:18 PM
sexy legs

coochiSR
13-04-07, 08:08 PM
My bro does this almost ever over week lol and its the TITS if i do say so ;) I do some of it, wash and polish ever week :d Good man RJ though!

london_chris
01-05-07, 12:48 AM
missed a bit!

wilson_sri
01-05-07, 01:02 AM
Good read mate. I work as a valeter and you seemed to cover just about everything there. Although since you seem keen i would suggest checking out www.detailingworld.com (http://www.detailingworld.com) and check out the shops bit. Meguir is good, but well overated and overpriced in my opinion. You will get much better products for much better prices off there.
I only use autosmart, diamondbrite, poorboys and some chemical guys stuff. Chemical brothers being by far, my number 1 car cleaning produc

SRlew
01-05-07, 10:31 AM
jack your car looks to shiny, actualy thought your bumper was chrome then lol

good read tho

Stuart
01-05-07, 11:54 AM
i purcahsed some or those cleaning products, but have no intention of using them bar the wash, mitt, drying cloth and window cleaner lol

J4MES
01-05-07, 01:13 PM
RJ your looks soooooo shiny, also nice legs ;P

craig green
01-05-07, 01:59 PM
Good guide. Never heard of doing glass & tyres before painted panels though.

Also to note about pressure washers, after the comments on driving contaminants into the paint, a pressure washer isnt much good to brake calipers, bearings & damper seals. Best left well clear IMO.

As I write this Halfrauds are doing 3 for 2 on cleaning products which makes Meguiars stuff pretty good value, currently.

Matt2107
01-05-07, 02:16 PM
Definately worth getting the little megs applicator pads as well.
They help to stop using too much product.

Jack
01-05-07, 03:51 PM
Good guide. Never heard of doing glass & tyres before painted panels though.
Thats why they're in the guide after washing the bulk of the car? lol

Another note on pressure washers and wheels - saw an article in AutoExpress a little while back saying about how using a pressure washer on a tyre can damage it as tiny water particles can penetrate and weaken the rubber, especially around the sidewall, and water can be forced in round the lip of the wheel. Best avoided!

Stuart
08-05-07, 08:27 AM
a good palce for cleaning bits is detailedobsession (google it), Ive got some of that poorboys wheel sealant for the new wheels im getting and the guy really knows his shizzle for getting yoru car spangly for not mega cash like meguirs seems to cost in hellfrauds lol.

nova---chris
08-05-07, 09:28 AM
Good post. but tbh i couldnt be ****d ever to do it to a car. And most kids round here detail peoples cars with these.

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fair play tho. celica looks clean .