engine conversion

[novacraig]

hiya everyone, i am writing on here for a mate

my mate has got a nova 1.4i, but he wants to put a 1.6 or 1.8 16v vectra engine in to his car. how hard would it be to do this and what would he need for the conversion? please could you back to me asap if you have any info!

thank you craig

[rybo]

theres easier and more cost efective options bud-why that choice?

[novacraig]

well because he can get hold of a vectra engine either of the two the 1.6 or the 1.8 16v.dont ask me why because my mate said he wants one of them what would we need to do to put it in the car

cheers craig

[Welsh Dan]

As far as I know you need the engine, gearbox, engine loom, immobiliser, keys, fuel pump. If you fit the 1.8 you'll need 22 spline driveshafts, cav 1.6 inner CV's and nova GTE outer CV's (the 22 spline type).

[novacraig]

well i no he can get hold off the wiring loom,engine,gearbox but cant he use the vectra driveshafts or are they just to big. about the fuel pump wouldnt that all ready be on the engine thou or and i wrong? so he will have to change the ignition over are you saying? o yea one more thing what about the engine mountsdo they all line up or do they have to be changed or what?

cheers craig

[Adam]

Fuel pump is either inside the fuel tank or near the fuel tank.

You will need get a mount conversion kit to fit the 1.8
And will need Gte shafts, 22spline inner 1.6 cav cvs, nova outers.

You can't use the vectra shafts.

As Xeno said you'll also need the immobiliser system and wiring, and the cars ignition key.

[novacraig]

right so you would say it is quite a hard conversion then really. so really everything you need is on the car? but the thing u need to buy would be the driveshafts?

cheers craig

[Adam]

Yeah, you need nova gte driveshafts.
And you would have the buy a modified mount kit.

O, and welding the engine bay is recommended.

[novacraig]

where would i get the mount from? and get the strenght kit to?

craig

[Adam]

Dont need a strength kiit.
Just the engine bay seems should be stitch welded.

Chris Astley motorsport sells the mount kit, about ?50 iirc.

[novacraig]

ok the weldin aint to bad. who is this chris ashley motosport? has he got a website?

craig

[Stuart]

lazy mofo. google that!

Personally id fit the 1.6 16V as its not going to need mounts/shafts etc and its only about 10-15bhp less than the 1.8 plus you ahve a weight saving.... still need the pump, loom, keys and immo transponder but its an easier bolt in conversion.

[mayhem]

iirc..

1.6 16v (c16xe) can with almost no adjustments
1.8 16v (c18xe) is almost the same as a 2.0 16v swap

[novacraig]

Hiya everyone, sorry that i have not been on to inform you about the conversion. He has decided to put the 1.6 16v vectra engine in. Would he still need to use the cav 1.6 inner cv and the gsi outer cv driveshaft? Does he need to customise the engine mounts?
What gearbox comes on the 1.6 16v or could he use the nova gearbox? I think the gearbox is a f13, if so, would he be able to use it?

cheers Craig

[Adam]

1.6 16v will go straight in on std nova engine mounts, and the box will fit std nova shafts.
No mods needed.

[novacraig]

well just to make sure it is a K reg nova 5 doors and what would the 0-60 time be becuase aint the f13 gearbox a close ratio.

cheers craig

[Adam]

The 1.6 in a vectra is only 100brake, so probably about 9/10secs for 0-60.

[novacraig]

ok then but it is quicker enough really so the f13 gearbox will fix on the vetca engine? what would be the hardest part of the conversion? how do you get th gearbox oil out because i cant find the nut for it?

cheers craig

[General Baxter]

The 1.6 in a vectra is only 100brake, so probably about 9/10secs for 0-60.

its 93bhp as it will be the x16xeL in the vectra lol

[novacraig]

lol ok then 93bhp out of a 1.6 but whtcould i get it up to with jut a few mods and how much would they be? what kind of bhp would i be lookin at?

cheers craig

[General Baxter]

easy fit a nova gsi engine and have 99bhp to start with lol

[Rich]

And its an 8v so won't go wrong!

[novacraig]

no serious what could i do to it t get abit quicker

cheers craig

[Adam]

X16xel is exactly 100bhp as std.
To increase the power you need to junk the std inlet trunking/system, that really is the restriction on the engine.
You can fit a "power box" that replaces the top half of the inlet, adds about 15-20bhp, costs ?200/?300.

Or go the whole way and fit throttle body's, not cheap but you'll be on the good side of 150/160bhp...

[novacraig]

hello i was just wondering i no you have answered this question the vectra engine will fit the nova gearboxes because i have been told different, E.G mates DAD

cheers craig

[rybo]

the big blocks wont (1.8,2.0 etc) but the 1.6 in the vectra is almost same bottom end as the nova gsi/gte lump-hes talking ****

[novacraig]

hello everyone i just went around to the vectra and it is the ecot twincam does that make a differents at all to the conversion or using the gearbox

cheers craig

[novacraig]

is anyonegoin to help me

[Stuart]

PEOPLE HAVE :wall:

the F13 WILL fit.
its supposed to be an ecotec twin cam, thats what the engine is.....

if your not going to read the help (and reply yourself properly, ie use know rather than no :p ) then you really cant whinge.

[novacraig]

i am sorry the ecotec will fit but it just looked abit big to me to put in really if you are all good at this stuff so i trust yo alot

cheers

[Adam]

You might have trouble fitting that engine, as it has a longer "wavy" inlet, and i've heard it runs very close to a nova firewall...

I've never seen a X16xel in a nova.