View Full Version : why has no-one bid on this EVO?...
Big_Chap
18-01-07, 07:31 PM
currently at 1p!!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120075003417
you need to be pre approved. Ie chancers dont get a go lol
its a 330 anyway, so why bother? go for at least a 360
exactly... why bother! its jap crap!
could make a nice bonfire I guess???
whats the pre approved thing then? never heard of that
You have to email the seller and if he considers you suitable to bid he'll allow you to. Kinda restricts the number of bidders though so may end up going for a low price.
And crap my backside, ok its not the best Evo but I'd still have it over a poobaru :p
JSeymour
18-01-07, 09:11 PM
exactly... why bother! its jap crap!
could make a nice bonfire I guess???
What a load of ballshiit!!
jap models are far supirior if you get a good 1
i cant belive some of the replys! slagging off an evo lmfao!!
so you lot here are saying to me, you'd rather drive a nova over an evo? Erm yeah ok, as much as i love Nova's, i would rather own an Evo anyday!
So they cost a bomb to run! Caine a tank of fuel in 45mins if drive like a loon, diff's cost upwards of ?1700 and a new clutch is ?400, id still rather have one sitting on my driveway anyday.
Nova's are just well, getting old and fragile now tbh
i cant belive some of the replys! slagging off an evo lmfao!!
so you lot here are saying to me, you'd rather drive a nova over an evo?
2 replies have "dissed" the evo - one of which was yours lol
I'd rather drive a dustbin van then an evo mate! why do people like those ricer boiler heaps!?
So why are japanese cars "crap" compared to euro or american cars?
So why are japanese cars "crap" compared to euro or american cars?
IMO the term 'jap crap' only originated so people with (usually) inferior makes of car had a rhyming 'put down' for the superior, higher specced, more powerful, better engineered, machines of the asian persuasion :thumb:
Oh yeah - and they mostly tend to be made of galvanised higher grade steel than certain other cars I can think of, whch some people on here believe to be of the same class lol
And if they aint galvanised and they decide to rust in our $hittey climate, they still do it at a vastly slower rate than Novas, are much much more reliable, refined... should I go on?
I love Novas, they're cool little cars, but as was said on page 1, they are getting on, there is no denying it, and to be comparable to 4WD turbo charged saloons is laughable IMO
Now, you can have your toys back if you all play nicely boys lol
I really cant believe that Nova owners are calling Evo's Jap Crap, rice blah this blah that. ****ing amazes me the lack of intelligence of some people, or is it jealousy?
Me personally, I wouldnt buy one. In fact I was very very close about 14 months ago to buying an VIII MR-RS, a proper Evo IMO. The running costs of them are amazingly high, servicing every 4k (if it is just for road use). You cant drive them quick on the road because they look fast and when getting gunned sound even faster, this annoys people alot.
An Evo is an awsome car for what it was designed for, which is rallying, and people who own an Evo and think they own a rally car is living in a dream world. To tune them costs thousands, typically they want around ?2k throwing at a stock one for some decent management if it is going to be driven hard. Then once tuned if they are used in anger the clutches knacker up, when the clutch has been uprated the rear diff explodes. The brakes are about as much use as a chocolate fire guard if used for anything more than fast road. The list goes on and on...
But...I would rather drive one over a nova any day (unless its on track and driving the nova is much more fun).
2 replies have "dissed" the evo - one of which was yours lol
well tbh Jack, i was stating a model i feel is worth buying mate ;) for extra few ?100 (literally!!) you can easily get a higher spec model
the Evo market has fallen on its **** in the last 6 months. Mainly due to imports bringing in brand new 9GT's for ?21k OTR. I had to laugh last week at the Autosport show, there was an FQ-400 there, 800 miles on the clock, stripped and caged for sale at ?52k iirc, they were ?47k new and dropped about ?15k within 12months as people decided they weren't as good as an FQ-340/320 with ?5k thrown at it.
well tbh, if i ever buy one, it will stay standard. The reason i want one, not for the power, not for the status blah blah as they are a technological masterpiece of engineernig tbh, the technology used on them is tbh second to none!
The conecpt, undeniable, the result more then impressive and the conclusion, well i think the coutless WRC wins and fame that surriond the Lancer and its history say it all tbh?
Yes, Chris you have a major point about running and servicing costs, a bird im seeing at the mo sold her FQ360 as used the money to pay off her mortgage early, so she'd exlpained the in's and outs of pretty much everything Lancer related!! And they are ridiculous stupidly exspensive to fuel, well hers ran 480bhp so thats why lol but yeah
L14MP - IMO the term 'jap crap' only originated so people with (usually) inferior makes of car had a rhyming 'put down' for the superior, higher specced, more powerful, better engineered, machines of the asian persuasion -
I belive that your intirely correct insaying that tbh mate, i assume that most of this "rice" hate relates to jealousy tbh
Simong -
I'd rather drive a dustbin van then an evo mate! why do people like those ricer boiler heaps!? -
The reason? There new, the work well, **** dont break, the side skirts dont fall off over 90mph, the speedo's are acurate, they have airbags, brakes that work, blah blah............ so yes you have your dustbin truck mate :P and then theres the qeustion of "why do people love a car designed on tetris and made out of recyled tuna tins?"
IMHO and expereince, i would have a jap or german car over a nova anyday :D
jap cars are fast?! sorry, but look at the worlds top 10 fastest cars and theyre all (bar 1 exception) europian! and that one exception is american which is the ford gt40
jap cars come out with all these stupidly "powerfull" engines like a 400bhp skyline or what ever and yet its pissed over by a standard 150bhp xe corsa/nova/astra what ever! if they want to be respected they need to sort out the styling of the cars both inside and out, sort out the electrics as all japanese cars are electrical nighmares espescially the imported ones and then finally learn to build an engine which is capeable of actiually using all that power! like i remember a few years back hearing about a 1000bhp ****liner sounded so impressive but it was beaten by inferior europian cars which had a hell of a lot less money spend on doing them up to the same standard, werent even churning out half the power and still wiped the floor with it.
also with having one of these driveway built 2 litre novas or 2 litre corsas or what ever it is you want it takes a hell of a lot more skill to drive then it does an evo/scooby/liner as the vast majority don't even have power steering let alone all this computer **** to figure out what wheel needs more traction as in one of those rice boiler cars its not you whos driving it... its the bloody computer which is doing all the hard work for you!
anyway, rant over... hope I've pissed off some of you japanese fans :D
jap cars are fast?! sorry, but look at the worlds top 10 fastest cars and theyre all (bar 1 exception) europian! and that one exception is american which is the ford gt40
jap cars come out with all these stupidly "powerfull" engines like a 400bhp skyline or what ever and yet its pissed over by a standard 150bhp xe corsa/nova/astra what ever! if they want to be respected they need to sort out the styling of the cars both inside and out, sort out the electrics as all japanese cars are electrical nighmares espescially the imported ones and then finally learn to build an engine which is capeable of actiually using all that power! like i remember a few years back hearing about a 1000bhp ****liner sounded so impressive but it was beaten by inferior europian cars which had a hell of a lot less money spend on doing them up to the same standard, werent even churning out half the power and still wiped the floor with it.
also with having one of these driveway built 2 litre novas or 2 litre corsas or what ever it is you want it takes a hell of a lot more skill to drive then it does an evo/scooby/liner as the vast majority don't even have power steering let alone all this computer **** to figure out what wheel needs more traction as in one of those rice boiler cars its not you whos driving it... its the bloody computer which is doing all the hard work for you!
anyway, rant over... hope I've pissed off some of you japanese fans :D
So Mong, have you ever a) owned a high power "rice boiler" b) driven one c) driven a high power corsa/nova d) worked on any of the afore mentioned?
LMFAOROFL!!!!
You have just put a smile on my face. I cant believe what I have just read.
So... You think a stock XE nova is quicker than a Skyline, why are you comparing a nova to a skyline? Lets compare a gp4 Mk2 Escort (do you actually know what one is?) to an Escort Van? It wouldnt be a fair comparison would it?
Driver skill eh? Have you ever driven one of these "rice boiler cars"? I am guessing not, and if you had I wouldnt imagine that you have driven one in anger. I accept that you might think that a nova will go round corners better than a skyline because your mate Dave can do the roundabout outside McDonalds in the 30mph limit at 70mph, yet the guy in the skyline cant. Or is it that the dude in the "rice boiler" isnt a retard?
Come back when you have grown up...
fastest
i said fast, not "worlds fastest"
anyway i think youll find the technology used in these "worlds fastest" car is erm, Japanese!
LMFAOROFL!!!!
You have just put a smile on my face. I cant believe what I have just read.
So... You think a stock XE nova is quicker than a Skyline, why are you comparing a nova to a skyline? Lets compare a gp4 Mk2 Escort (do you actually know what one is?) to an Escort Van? It wouldnt be a fair comparison would it?
Driver skill eh? Have you ever driven one of these "rice boiler cars"? I am guessing not, and if you had I wouldnt imagine that you have driven one in anger. I accept that you might think that a nova will go round corners better than a skyline because your mate Dave can do the roundabout outside McDonalds in the 30mph limit at 70mph, yet the guy in the skyline cant. Or is it that the dude in the "rice boiler" isnt a retard?
Come back when you have grown up...
FPMSL!!! LMFBO!!!
chris-gsi
19-01-07, 01:36 AM
lol good thread, personally id have a jap car,luv the pulsars,evo's,civic r's and skyline's not a fan of scooby's but all jap cars or most are quick as standard,plus you get the hole ,fast car, comfort and reliabilty.
yeah but it aint a nova so itz crap innit
jap cars come out with all these stupidly "powerfull" engines like a 400bhp skyline or what ever and yet its pissed over by a standard 150bhp xe corsa/nova/astra what ever!
Idiots quote of the week I reckon.
Pmsl thinking a N/A FWD hatch is much harder to drive than a Turbo'd RWD saloon, you know nothing of what you're talking about lol
lmfao @ Chris
and then theres the qeustion of "why do people love a car designed on tetris and made out of recyled tuna tins?"
LMFAO!
jap cars are fast?! sorry, but look at the worlds top 10 fastest cars and theyre all (bar 1 exception) europian! and that one exception is american which is the ford gt40
You might want to look at that list again. Is the Saleen European? The Dodge? The Chevrolet?
Anyway. So the Japs aren't into making supercars. How much of that GT technology is in a Ford Fiesta?
And if you think Japanese cars are crap, you might want to take a look at Toyota's annual turnover and profits compared to GM. The public votes with its wallets!
How long have you owned a JDM car? As said, a lot of this "jap crap" talk is bourne of jealousy and originates from Americans (look to the 1940's to see why they don't like the Japanese) and has therefore transposed to the UK in our country's rather disturbing continuing effort to become a mini-America. Most people have either had a real sh*tter of a jap car and never looked after it because "jap cars are uber-reliable and never need servicing" so eventually it falls apart, or have never lived with a JDM car.
IMO - I had two novas for 5 years. Two years ago I bought my GT4. Yes its been expensive, but even considering the cost I feel I made the right decision. As fun as Novas can be, I love the reliability of my car, its power, its comfort, its size, its looks, and just about everything else that goes with it. I love the fact I haven't had to change anything (ok a couple of bits here and there but nothing major) to make it "better".
My saloon, I'm putting an XE in and aiming to make it as comfy as possible, because I know without the power and comfort I won't want to drive it compared to the Celica.
And anyway, compared to driving the Nova, when in my Celica ladies are far more likely to give me head. :thumb: LOL
simon, if you cant get on and not be so narrow minded then you really should find a site that you can integrate with :p
I'd love an evo/scooby, but im not a fan of spending a mint on fuel and running lol. If i could have the residuals garunteed on an RB320 id buy one tomorrow.
Bring back British Leyland!
Now THEY knew how to build a car!
Bring back British Leyland!
Now THEY knew how to build a car!
LMFAO!!!!!!lol lol lol
craig green
19-01-07, 11:38 AM
Interesting discussion.
My taste in cars is funked up but I can honestly say I dislike most Jap stuff, Skylines, Scoobies, Evos, Pulsars etc. I would much rather stare at a sorted Nova all day & I certainly wouldnt buy any of the above if I had that kind of money. I dont know for sure but if I wont the Jackpot on saturday..if I spent some on a car my Nova would likely get a few grand thrown at it & like I say.. Non of the above would get my cash.
I'm not saying they arent imnpressive cars, but IMO they look & sound awfull & in most cases are driven by people with more money than imagination.
The easiest route to a fast car (Evo/WRX)
The easiest route to a fast car (Evo/WRX)
But thats why there so sucessful tbh
I see your point craig, and yes i know its an opinoin lol hehe but Mong really needs to think before typing lol
vallanc3
19-01-07, 02:23 PM
these are two cars totaly different.
ones 4x4,ones not
one comes standard with a 2litre turbo engine,one doesnt
one dosent rust,one does
one has been developed with rally experts.one hasent
so basicly people are saying that a nova is better than a evo/scooby/pulsar etc because they own a nova and are more than likely jelous.
imo.....buy a fiat panda
Matt2107
19-01-07, 02:28 PM
I got owned by a fiat panda once.... back when i had my original 1.2
LMAO @ this. MONG needs to give his head a shake! I mean WTF!
Dude, stop buyin' Maxy P, Fast Car and Trevs etc, and take a look at Jap Performance and Banzai when you are next on dinner break at school lol
I can't say anymore that hasn't laready been covered by me/you lot :thumb:
Guess I better not bother with an ITR next, or my 1st choice, an R32 with RB26DETT - what do I know ha ha
I'll just 20XE a Nova / Corsa and win TOTB lol
dont get me started on TOTB. IMO it isnt motorsport, it is just a big publicity stunt for tuners. Lets bolt a bigger turbo on, run more boost and get into the 9's. Last year a 2.0 Evo went into the 9's (not sure if it was TOTB), it revved to 10k, they wound the boost right up just to get into the 9's. It did 3 runs and blew up. The engine cost around ?100k I think. That could hire and run a bloody competitive group 'N' car for a year (minus entries and broken parts).
As far as the Evo is a quick way to having a fast car, yeah it is unless you cant drive. So many Evo owners think they are going quick on a trackday because they are revving the nuts off them and the tyres are squealing, where in actual fact their corner entry speed is too high and it is understeering, and to get round that they put more power down to let the 4WD sort it out. Not exactly driving is it? But a decent driver in a 2WD N/A car and they will be as quick, if not quicker than the 'piler' in the Evo, using 1/4 of the fuel.
vallanc3
19-01-07, 03:57 PM
dont get me started on TOTB. IMO it isnt motorsport, it is just a big publicity stunt for tuners. Lets bolt a bigger turbo on, run more boost and get into the 9's. Last year a 2.0 Evo went into the 9's (not sure if it was TOTB), it revved to 10k, they wound the boost right up just to get into the 9's. It did 3 runs and blew up. The engine cost around ?100k I think. That could hire and run a bloody competitive group 'N' car for a year (minus entries and broken parts).
As far as the Evo is a quick way to having a fast car, yeah it is unless you cant drive. So many Evo owners think they are going quick on a trackday because they are revving the nuts off them and the tyres are squealing, where in actual fact their corner entry speed is too high and it is understeering, and to get round that they put more power down to let the 4WD sort it out. Not exactly driving is it? But a decent driver in a 2WD N/A car and they will be as quick, if not quicker than the 'piler' in the Evo, using 1/4 of the fuel.
but what happens if the 2wd n/a car driver also crnt drive very well and thinks that because theyve got a (lets say a 2lt nova) that there going to be a good driver aswel?
they crash because they dont have computers to sort it out, or give up and say trackdays are crap.
they crash because they dont have computers to sort it out, or give up and say trackdays are crap.
Ha ha! I heard a Porsche 997 Carrera 2 owner say words to that effect in the paddock at a Goodwood trackday after he'd spun the car a few times!
welsh_roadrally
19-01-07, 11:50 PM
I hadn't owned a jap car long term until i bought a Civic VTi just over a year ago,Paid ?1600 for it,had a few minor bodywork blemishes sorted(not rust),bought some nice bits for it and ended up with it owing me just over ?2k,it had done 112k i've used it as an everyday car since,its now done 121k and the only costs have been Fuel,Tires,Brake pads and two oil changes...
So for ?2k i've had over a years use out of a comfortable,quick,reliable car and i'm confitent i'll still get ?1800 for it when i come to sell it in the next few months,the only reason i'm selling it is because i fancy a change,Integra or Celica maybe?:)
I've got a lovley GSi and an SR but i wouldnt use them as everyday cars out of choice,i've got two Mini Coopers that i wouldn't use either,not because i dont like them but because they're never going to be as reliable or comfortable on 100+mile journeys.
I really cant see the point in slating a superior product:confused:
Its like watching motorsport on TV and thinking your mate down the road who's only ever had a 1.3 Fiesta but seems like a good driver could do better then telling someone your thoughts on the subject,you're going to get shot down by anyone with common senselol
whey hey, another person with his head screwed on lol.
But 'welshroadrally' you forgot to mention that it will rev to 8.5k rpm lol, and when it gets to 6k all hell breaks loose.
I have just been doing some work on a friends car, Integra DC2 Type-R and it is awsome, I would prefer it over a celica anyday, IMO they are much nicer to look and an the engines are unbelievable.
Chris
welsh_roadrally
20-01-07, 03:00 AM
[quote=Chris]whey hey, another person with his head screwed on lol.
But 'welshroadrally' you forgot to mention that it will rev to 8.5k rpm lol, and when it gets to 6k all hell breaks loose.
:D It does rev just a bitlol and when it hits 6k it does sound awesome:thumb:
jkhilton
20-01-07, 07:45 AM
I bought an Evo VII, had it for 2 years and spent almost as much running/tuning it as I did buying it. It was worth every penny though, put a smile on my face everytime I drove it(when it wasn't broken down!! lol) and it did attract a lot of attention, some good, some bad(I got spat at once because I wouldn't put my foot down on the A6 in Stockport :roll: )
Would I get another one? in a heartbeat!! awesome car, great fun on the country lanes and comfortable enough to do 500 miles in a day without getting back ache or shaking your teeth out!!
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