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bieransri
11-01-07, 06:41 PM
does anyone have a spec list of bretts old car now matthey172's?:thumb:

fearless
11-01-07, 07:15 PM
Something along the lines of :



MATT'S 210 BHP NOVA WRC

ENGINE

2.0XE 16 VALVE CONVERSION
S.B.D. 48MM TAPERED THROTTLE BODY INJECTION
OIL PUMP NYLON RELIEF VALVE
MBE ENGINE MANAGEMENT
ITG AIR FILTER
T.A.S. COMPETITION ENGINE MOUNTS
COOL RUNNING THERMOSTAT
2 ?? CUSTOM MADE JP STAINLESS STEEL EXHAUST SYSTEM WITH 4? TAIL
S.B.D. 4-2-1 EXHAUST MANIFOLD WITH GRAPHITE HEAT WRAP
S.B.D. HEAVY DUTY ROD BOLTS
BESPOKE ?WRC? STYLE POLISHED ALLOY RADIATOR & OIL COOLER
SLIMLINE FAN WITH MANUAL OVERIDE
BAILEY POLISHED ALLOY HEADER TANK & OIL CATCH TANK
BESPOKE POLISHED ALLOY IN-CAR FUEL TANK LOCATED IN SPARE WHEEL WELL
IN-CAR STAINLESS STEEL BRAIDED FUEL LINES JIC-6/JIC-10
IN-LINE FUEL FILTER
SPLITFIRE TRIPLE PLATINUM SPARK PLUGS
SPLITFIRE TWIN CORE PLUG LEADS
PERFORMANCE 210 BHP & 175LBS/FT TORQUE

TRANSMISSION

F16 5 SPEED CLOSE RATIO GEARBOX
COMPLETE REBUILD WITH 4.2 FINAL DRIVE
QUAIFE ATB DIFFERENTIAL
LIGHTENED AND BALANCED FLYWHEEL
HELIX SPRUNG PADDLE CLUTCH
HELIX HEAVY DUTY COVER PLATE
QUAIFE MODIFIED GEAR LEVER ASSEMBLY
BESPOKE GEAR LINKAGE WITH APEX JOINTS
MANN HEAVY DUTY DRIVE SHAFTS USING ASTRA 16V CV JOINTS INNER & OUTER

SUSPENSION

?WORKS? FRONT PILBEAM ADJUSTABLE WIDE PLATFORM STRUT BODIES
DE-CARBON TARMAC INSERTS
SUPER PROGRESSIVE 93MM SPRINGS
PILBEAM ECCENTRIC ROSE JOINTED TOP MOUNTS
ROSE JOINTED LOWERED TIE BAR MOUNTS
STRENGTHENED TRACK CONTROL ARMS
REAR DE-CARBON TARMAC STRUTS
CUSTOM -100MM TARMAC SPRINGS
FMD FRONT POLISHED ALLOY SOLID BILLET STRUT BRACE
POLY BUSHES ON ANTI-ROLL BAR, TRACK CONTROL ARMS & REAR BEAM

STEERING

QUAIFE HIGH RATIO COMPETITION 2.5 RACK & PINION
T.A.S. COMPETITION ALLOY RACK MOUNTS




BRAKES

FRONT WILWOOD DYNALITE 4 POT CALIPERS
285MM CROSS DRILLED DISCS & EBC PADS
REAR ASTRA GSi CALIPERS, CROSS DRILLED DISCS, GM PADS
IN-CAR STAINLESS STEEL BRAIDED LINES JIC-3
IN-CAR ADJUSTABLE BRAKE BIAS VALVE

WHEELS & TYRES

SPEEDLINE MISTRAL 6.5?? X 15? RESPRAYED IN PEARLESCENT HUDSON BLACK
YOKOHAMA A539 195/45/15

BODY & CHASSIS

?WORKS? CHASSIS STRENGTHENING KIT
SEAM WELDED TO GROUP ?A? SPEC.
REMOVABLE SLAM PANEL
BESPOKE GEAR LEVER TURRET MOUNT
?WORKS? STYLE SEAT RAILS
FLOOR STRENGTHENING PLATES FOR ROLL CAGE
ALL FLOOR DRAIN HOLES WELDED UP
LEAD FILLED DOOR LOCKS/WIPER APERTURE/FUEL FILLER CAP
FLUSH WELDED-IN BONNET LOUVRES
BONNET SCOOP
FMD ?WRC? STYLE FRONT BUMPER WITH SQUARE MESH HOUSING
GRILL WITH SQUARE MESH
CARBON FIBRE SCUTTLE PANEL
EURO SMOOTH TAILGATE
FMD REAR BUMPER WITH NUMBER PLATE RECESS & LIGHTS
FMD SHORTENED DOOR MIRRORS
SINGLE WIPER
PERSPEX WINDOWS WITH SLIDERS (ALL EXCEPT FRONT SCREEN)
SMOKED REAR LIGHT CLUSTERS
POWER COATED SUSPENSION COMPONENTS
CHROMED DOOR & BONNET LATCHES
SHELL PAINTED PASTEL JIBSON GREEN

INTERIOR

COBRA EVOLUTION CARBON FIBRE TOURING CAR SEATS
TRIMMED IN BLACK ALCANTARA AND LEATHER
ALLOY SEAT SIDE MOUNTS
LUKE FIA 5 POINT 3? HARNESSES
?WRC? FLOCKED ANTI-GLARE DASH
STACK MOTORSPORT DASH DISPLAY SYSTEM IN CARBON FIBRE PANEL
PUSH BUTTON START
RELOCATED SWITCH GEAR IN CARBON FIBRE PANEL
FMD POLISHED ALLOY REAR ROLL CAGE
FMD POLISHED ALLOY REAR STRUT BRACE
CARBON FIBRE DOOR/REAR QUARTER/TAILAGE/ KICK PANELS
POLISHED ALLOY DOOR GRAB HANDLES
NARDI GARA SPORT STEERING WHEEL & SNAP OFF BOSS
POLISHED ALLOY HANDBRAKE HANDLE
SPARCO ALLOY PEDALS
ALLOY DRIVER/CO-DRIVER FOOTRESTS & FLOOR PLATES
REMOVAL OF ORIGINAL INTERIOR INCLUDING ALL SOUND DEADENING/ELECTRIC MOTORS/ICE ETC TO SAVE WEIGHT OF APPROX 13 STONE


SECURITY

CUSTOMISED CLIFFORD SYSTEM
KEYLESS CAR
REMOTE BOOT POP&SIMMER TIMER

draper
11-01-07, 07:18 PM
phenominal spec sheet - didnt realise it was that impressive !!

Stuart
11-01-07, 07:26 PM
did it have std cams and head?....

fearless
11-01-07, 07:30 PM
Unfortunatley - Yes !!!


Brett wanted a reliable engine - so only had the throttle bodies !


Maybe Matt will unleash more power from the engine

Stuart
11-01-07, 07:33 PM
hmm not wishing to open "that" can of worms but Chris T's spec is approx 210bhp with lairy cams, a heavily modded head and similar rest of specetc.......

maybe knocking off the power claims might keep peoples minds more realistic lol

Lee
11-01-07, 08:27 PM
All that spec and a clifford alarm lol

matthew172
11-01-07, 08:51 PM
well at the moment its got the basic sbd taper throttle kit which gives 210bhp but ive been looking at the first sbd upgrade which is 218 bhp but unfortunately will cost another 800 quid to take it to this level and imo is a little steep just for a extra 8 bhp

Will F
12-01-07, 08:52 AM
Stu opens the can of worms!

Matt, possible but very unlikely that you have anywhere near 210.

Sorry mate.

Take a look at Chris T's spec, then you will see what I mean. To break the 200 mark you need at least cams/piston work.

ANDYRACER
12-01-07, 09:09 AM
I always thought the SBD bhp quoted figures were when you go the whole way, cams etc? :confused:

Ste L
12-01-07, 01:06 PM
I always thought the SBD bhp quoted figures were when you go the whole way, cams etc? :confused:


me too, not just the power the tb's add...

NickWalliams
12-01-07, 01:12 PM
std xe + tb's + full exhaust system inc 4branch = 180/190bhp?

Ste L
12-01-07, 01:13 PM
std xe + tb's + full exhaust system inc 4brach = 180/190bhp?

your red one before it got the turbo lump was about that wasn't it?

180, with tb's exhaust ect?

NickWalliams
12-01-07, 01:15 PM
yep 180bhp still got the rr print out here, std xe + qed tb's + btb manifold and full jp exhaust system.

Adam
12-01-07, 01:18 PM
Yeah 180/190bhp is correct.
Thats what Olly H got on a std xe with TB kit and exhaust.

Ste L
12-01-07, 01:36 PM
yep 180bhp still got the rr print out here, std xe + qed tb's + btb manifold and full jp exhaust system.

thought so, remember pricey saying something about when he owned it before you :)

NickWalliams
12-01-07, 01:49 PM
its now 0bhp but has the potential to be around 300bhp lol

Ste L
12-01-07, 01:52 PM
lol whats left to do on it?

nathannova
12-01-07, 04:30 PM
sounds like a beast!
has anyone got any pictures of this car??????

Stoo
12-01-07, 05:27 PM
I like how only now that brett doesnt own the elusive green nova, that the power figures are "Questioned"!!!

Good points raised though!! As far as i knew, Headwork and cams is necessary for ahealthy 200+

matthew172
12-01-07, 05:31 PM
well you lot are all banging on about the qed throttles and yes wen you use them you do need cams etc to see 210 bhp but with the sbd kit you have 210 straight away without cams headwork etc, unless sbd (the people who are experts in vauxhall tuning) have there figures wrong and the dyno brett put it on was also wrong??

if you dont belive me then go check there taper throttles out

http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Main.htm

Dar
12-01-07, 06:12 PM
I can vouch for the TP208 kit. Mine runs 150bhp at the wheels on a completly standard engine. Its not even mapped properly & has a standard exhaust manifold. If you get a proper exhuast system and a decent map you are looking at around the 200bhp at the fly (roughly). SBD have it spot on. Although the kit is supposed to produce 208 bhp it has been independently dyno'ed at over 200bhp (204 IIRC) which to be fair is close enough for me.

As much as I don't want to say anything bad about the QED throttle bodies(Unless BT says anything bad about my GTI-6 again). The tapered throttle bodies supplyed by SBD have been proven to produce better results.

John
12-01-07, 06:56 PM
Check out andy hills astra on the sbd feature car page. i knew andy when he had the 208 kit fitted to an otherwise standard xe in a mk2 astra. After half a day on the rollers this made 197 at the fly iirc.

An ways, matts car, still awesome!

fearless
12-01-07, 06:58 PM
If I remember correctly - When Brett had the nova he had it rolling roaded at K&N Filters rolling road place at Warrington (Invite only place I think - Rob had his Nova turbo Spider done there !!!)

Apparently very accurate figures !!! - I can't remember the exact figures but I'm sure Matt will have the print out somewhere !!

Lee
12-01-07, 07:07 PM
As much as I don't want to say anything bad about the QED throttle bodies(Unless BT says anything bad about my GTI-6 again). The tapered throttle bodies supplyed by SBD have been proven to produce better results.
Your peugeot smells of wee and poo.

And the fact I have inferior throttlebodies means creaming your pasty behind next year will be all the more satisfying lol

Dar
12-01-07, 07:42 PM
Your peugeot smells of wee and poo.

And the fact I have inferior throttlebodies means creaming your pasty behind next year will be all the more satisfying lol

lol In your wettest wildest dreams! That lead filled rear strut brace that I got my little bro to install will slow you down :p
<Obscene insult taken out> So there! Don't make me kick your ass at boxing on the Wii again.

draper
12-01-07, 08:25 PM
I like how only now that brett doesnt own the elusive green nova, that the power figures are "Questioned"!!!



thats what i thought but meh

i really like the spec of this car, wonder what gains would be achieved with lairy cams and headwork ?????

Dar
12-01-07, 08:54 PM
thats what i thought but meh

i really like the spec of this car, wonder what gains would be achieved with lairy cams and headwork ?????

All depends on the cams and head work.

Will F
13-01-07, 12:07 AM
Buuuuut, the quoted 208 figure is apparently only achieved it the magical Steve Broughton ('SB' of SBD) get his hands on it! lol

The TP164 and 184 kit's figures for the 1.6 16v are extremely optimistic and are essentially the same kits for a smaller engine.

I just cant see it myself. Let me drive it and I will let you know.....

matthew172
13-01-07, 09:51 AM
Buuuuut, the quoted 208 figure is apparently only achieved it the magical Steve Broughton ('SB' of SBD) get his hands on it! lol

The TP164 and 184 kit's figures for the 1.6 16v are extremely optimistic and are essentially the same kits for a smaller engine.

I just cant see it myself. Let me drive it and I will let you know.....

you can ride my dogs ****e instead if you like

ANDYRACER
14-01-07, 06:38 PM
you can ride my dogs ****e instead if you like

You really are a prick arent you sunshine :roll::thumb:

matthew172
14-01-07, 08:38 PM
and your a prick wid a ****e motor

Martin
14-01-07, 08:49 PM
Hand bags at the ready...

Fooork sake... cant someone start a thread without people getin all ratty with each other about whos got the biggest c0ck. i mean more powerlol

at the end of the day if not the tool its the user and if the users a tool then the tools no good.. init..

as baxter sig used to say

"arguing over the internet is like wining the special olympics your stil a retard"

Sumin liek that anyway...

And agruing about a nova now thats just GAYYY!!

Novadex
14-01-07, 11:04 PM
Hand bags at the ready...

Fooork sake... cant someone start a thread without people getin all ratty with each other about whos got the biggest c0ck. i mean more powerlol

at the end of the day if not the tool its the user and if the users a tool then the tools no good.. init..

as baxter sig used to say

"arguing over the internet is like wining the special olympics your stil a retard"

Sumin liek that anyway...

And agruing about a nova now thats just GAYYY!!

PMSL! Very well said!!

Martin
14-01-07, 11:11 PM
Thanks

Will F
15-01-07, 08:48 AM
lol

What a c0ck knocker

If you REALLY care that much about the bhp figures then fine. You have 211.7bhp CONGRATULATIONS!

I have 211.8!

Woohoooooooooooooooooooooo!

craig green
15-01-07, 11:54 AM
IMO the SBD figures may be a bit off due to the quality of fuels nowadays compared to back when the kits were developed.

Thers a page on the SBD site detailing issues with fuels & headgaskets failing. Think they have to wind the timing back a bit to keep the engines sweet which does lose a few horses.

My cars faster than yours! Big deal!

nova---chris
15-01-07, 04:00 PM
Having read the thread. ive worked out where im going wrong. I must need a nylon relief valve.

Group buy i rekon. :thumb:

dan16v
15-01-07, 04:06 PM
count me in i need an extra 40bhp: )

matthew172
15-01-07, 05:14 PM
Having read the thread. ive worked out where im going wrong. I must need a nylon relief valve.

Group buy i rekon. :thumb:

well go take that one up with fearless or brett big boy because i didnt put it there!

and tbh i wasnt the one that quoted the figure of 210 bhp that was other people and i was just going with wat id been told, pmsl