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azura
18-12-06, 07:10 PM
I want to lower my nova, I dont know the best way to do it, or even how low to go :(

I presume the gsi / sr`s have different shocks to my mk1 1.2L ? So its not just a case of changing springs ?

I was looking to get some -30mm springs but I am thinking this will not really help ?? I guess I would be better off with standard gsi shocks & springs.

In this Pic you can see how high the ride is, please advice whats best for me to do, thanks.

http://www.aqul58.dsl.pipex.com/novaheight.JPG

Benn
18-12-06, 07:17 PM
buy a good spring and shock kit,
best way... easy to fit,

40mm will look good and make it handle better,
bilstine,koni,avo, theres lots of good makes,

dannyb
18-12-06, 07:18 PM
Firstly. What will the car be used for and what do you hope to achieve with it mate?

Standard GSi stuff is about 10 to 15 mm lower than what you have already, but the shocks are just as soft. The only difference between driving the two is that the GSi has an anti roll bar and feels differently. You are best off buying an aftermarket suspension kit, not just springs. Uprated dampers working in conjunction with lowering springs will improve the handling. The ride will be harder than with GSi shocks and springs and you will notice every bump in the road! 40mm is a practical drop for everyday driving, the camber angle isn't too much either so your tyres won't get all worn on one side, it also looks pretty stealth. If you are after better handling without the penalty of a hard ride, a half way option is to get rid of those pram tyres and go for some 185 or 195 wide tyres on a set of 14s or 15s. If they are ET 49 offset, these wheels won't give you any rubbing, even with a 40mm drop.

rc
18-12-06, 07:23 PM
holly crap thats been +60mm'd in it lol

its all down to own preferance really to how low u go, general rule is up to 40mm is ok with standard dampers (altho gsi 1s would be a good upgrade) if you go lower, 60mm etc, u will need uprated matched dampers too.

personally i wouldnt go and less than 60mm as for me low is best! i've now gone to the next level with coilovers dropin it down to 100mm :thumb:

but the lower you go the more conciquences u face, wheels rubbing, tyres wearing, joints wearing, hittin speedbumps etc!

so its swings and roudabouts really but for me its deck it to the floor and take the conciquences!

rc
18-12-06, 07:27 PM
oh jst another point! dont go down the path of cutting springs!!

been there to get my bumpers licking the floor, but it was the worst handleing thing ive ever been in! bumpy and spongy at the same time! very dangerous!!

EUROTURBO
18-12-06, 07:38 PM
if you wanna do it on a budget go only -40mm for the best in looks, ridability and turning circle. go any lower and your gonna need a few extra pennies for a full kit, as the rest would recommend this route is prob the best, you should pm, H15 NVA, he's got a set on a nova he is strippin at the mo, and its a full kit

sri_boi
18-12-06, 10:17 PM
is it true you can compress springs? i agree with "rc" lower the better in my eyes, coilovers all the way!! goe for some spax coilvers 80mm or even fk's...will take your nova 100mm :)

Lee
18-12-06, 10:54 PM
Also bear in mind most suspension kits you'll buy will be for the GTe/GSi so a 40mm kit will actually lower yours around 55mm.

Lee
18-12-06, 10:55 PM
is it true you can compress springs? i agree with "rc" lower the better in my eyes, coilovers all the way!! goe for some spax coilvers 80mm or even fk's...will take your nova 100mm :)

Looks good, but 40-50mm is the most id go before it starts degredating the handling.

rc
18-12-06, 11:01 PM
Looks good, but 40-50mm is the most id go before it starts degredating the handling.

i have to agree there, i lowered mine rite down on FK's 100mm drop and everytime i went into a corner hard the rear end would slip rite out, wen i raisd it up about half way (bout 50-60mm drop) it handled like it was on rails!!

still wound it rite back down 100mm and just slowed a bit for the corners! all cars should scrape the tarmac to look good lol

Lee
18-12-06, 11:09 PM
My mate has a sticker on his golf that says 'if it aint scrubbin, then your not dubbin' lol

Im sure Mr Marshall broke a cav that had a sticker that said 'Any lower and ill be in the sewer'! lol

Nutters, the lot of em!

azura
18-12-06, 11:26 PM
Also bear in mind most suspension kits you'll buy will be for the GTe/GSi so a 40mm kit will actually lower yours around 55mm.

Exellent! thats one of the things I was a bit unsure of :)

Think I`ll get either 30 or 40mm springs, they sound about right for what I want then :)

so, will -30 -40mm springs fit on my exsisting struts ?

Thanks to all that have replied...

As for those pram wheels, yes they have to go :cry:

rc
18-12-06, 11:36 PM
yep they'll fit rite in the place of ur excisting springs.

if doing the work yourself make sure you use a spring compressor before you take the top centre nut off otherwise u'll have a hole in your garage roof! or ur face!

JSeymour
19-12-06, 09:15 AM
my advice would be to get a 60 drop spring and shock kit, if youve got decent profile tyres on and correct offset wheels, they wont rub, infact the arches wont even sit over the tyre/rim.

im saying this as when you park up next to another nova lower then yours or any over car lower then your your want to drop it even more!!

lee coley
19-12-06, 09:42 AM
60 on front and 80 on the back.with decent shokers

Matt2107
19-12-06, 10:46 AM
Definately get a spring and shocks kit... on standard shocks with lowered springs its quite probably that at full extension the springs will fall out at the rear.... ie mot time when they put your car up on a four poster.

Springs are a false economy really.
Ok so they may only cost ?60 but you can get shocks and springs for between ?180-?220.

If your car is just really a run around then I wouldnt worry about spending more than that. You'll be looking at G-max or PI spring and shock kits for that sort of money. They aren't really the best kits out there but good for lowering on a budget.

If you think you can push to a little more money then look towards Spax or Koni etc.

Its kinda the old saying... "you get what you pay for"