fitting a new rear quater

[SRlew]

right then got me new rear quater today and just want to know how much of it should i fit? and what do you do about welding it in place? bend the edges down, weld it then a thin layer of filler over that?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/srlew/Picture032.jpg

i want to keep the light surround cause mines damaged slightly.

heres my damage
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/srlew/Picture009.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/srlew/Picture007.jpg

what you all think then?
any tips etc would be greatfull, thanks, lewis

[draper]

personnaly id put it in the boot, drive to your local (trusted) bodyshop, get a lift or the bus home, wait untill he rings you then go and pick it up !! sorted !!

[draper]

oh yeah, and my SR shell doesnt need it :thumb:

[nova ian]

I didnt fit mine, however the whole pannel goes on. Just spot welds along all the seems, for example along the window edge and round the lights. Then weld around the pillar koint and sill joint. Only thing thats a pain is when you strip the old quarters off the sills will no doubt be quite rusty, but should be ok.

Also use sealent around the inside of the arches and around the filler neck, this way it will stop water getting down the edges etc.

heres a few pics of mine, hope it helps.

Ian

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/nova/14102006004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/nova/14102006001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/nova/14102006007.jpg

[nova ian]

And I would have to agree with Draper Midlands, take it to a bodyshop!!

Should get it done for about ?200 give or take

[SRlew]

well i could just get me dad to do it cause that what he does for a living lol but he lives in devon though.


do you cut both skins off then?

[mikey14sr]

cut off whats on the new panel, but do it in small pieces to make it easier

[SRlew]

i recon i can do it! only thing i need to know realy is how to do the joins if you know what i mean. because surely if just place the new arch there and weld it in i wont be able to get the joint flat etc, so do you bend the edges or what? lol

[nova ian]

i recon i can do it! only thing i need to know realy is how to do the joins if you know what i mean. because surely if just place the new arch there and weld it in i wont be able to get the joint flat etc, so do you bend the edges or what? lol

You grind the welds flat, then use filler to give a smooth finish and bridge the imperfections where the new pannel joins the rest of the car. when you cut the old quarter off you've got to get it precise, or you'll be having to add bits of plate in etc and that will proove hard to keep the lines of the car.

Personally I would go to a bodyshop, if youve never done something likr it before its a bit of a major task as its quite a big section of the car make a bodge up on!!

[Matt2107]

Whats the worst that can happen if you have a go yourself.

You'll just have to cut it out and buy a new panel and have someone do it for you.
If you always worry about messing it up then you will never learn how to do it.

I say if you think your confident enough to do a pretty good job then go for it.

[nova ian]

Whats the worst that can happen if you have a go yourself.

You'll just have to cut it out and buy a new panel and have someone do it for you.
If you always worry about messing it up then you will never learn how to do it.

I say if you think your confident enough to do a pretty good job then go for it.

Yes you have a point and I agree, wasnt saying he shouldnt have ago his self, just that it is quite a big job to tackle as a first attempt.

[Matt2107]

Agreed it is a big job.... and i would probably also use a body shop lol... but thats only because I can't weld.

[hendrix]

wish i had kept my old rot box shell now to practice on, that way it would matter if i f*cked up on it at all. Might have to get a scrapper to practice on.

[Matt2107]

I keep meaning to get a welder.. but you know how it is.

[draper]

I keep meaning to get a welder.. but you know how it is.

ive got 1 under my kitchen table - hasnt even got a plug on yet lol

[lee coley]

im in soulth yorkshire rotherham/barnsley area ive got a garage i do a bit of work on the side if any1 needs owt doin!new panels/repairs/repaints/custom/etc...

[draper]

how good are you tho ??? any pics of work youve done ??

[mikey14sr]

So long as you start off by cutting smaller sections from the centre working your way out, then when you get near the edges of where the new panel will meet you can just take a little at a time, clamping up and checking the fit regurlary. If you do go a bit too far and end up with gaps on the 'B' and 'C' pillar, just do what a bodyshop would do and cut a small plate to fit from behiond to reinforce the joint.

[mikey14sr]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/nova/14102006007.jpg

I'm sure there should be twice as many spot welds along that edge, it looks as though one has been drilled off in between each of the new ones?

[lee coley]

how good am i without blowin my own trumpet im good!im 22years old bin doin it since was 16,work 4 ADR accident repair centre in rotherham,i dont bodge owt i tek mi time and do it rate.i can get some pics sorted out if needed.

[nova ian]

Mikey14sr, probably was more welds, Did nt fit it myself, Its not going knowhere though I know that much! lol!

[lee coley]

pic of calibra in panel stage http://www.clubcalibra.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=552.0;attach=546;i mage

[lee coley]

1 in primhttp://www.clubcalibra.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=425.0;attach=1547; imageer....

[lee coley]

http://www.clubcalibra.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=425.0;attach=1549; image

[mikey14sr]

external linking to that site doesnt work, host the pics on photobucket.

[SRlew]

right then iv now decided to not to fit the whole panel. im now going to cut below the top swage line and before the fuel cap, as thats where the damage is realy and as a first atempt id rather do it along them parts etc as its just a flat straight part that needs welding.

i am defo doing it myself tho. so i think what i'll do is cut on the edge of the damage etc the see wheres best to cut up to etc, little bit at a time.

also when im ready to weld it in place. do you just clamp it in place and do little bits of weld at a time? to stop it distorting?

im keen to do it as im trying to find an appreticeship in body work etc anyway so this will be a bit of expeirience lol

[rednova]

tbh i wouldnt do that as the amount of weld across the top will more than likely distort the panel

first off drill out the spot welds that are round the window aperture and edges/sill etc

next look at where your new panel stops, mark this on the old quarter

now draw a line approx 2 inch below this line (into old quarter, not above)

remove all metal inside of these marks using whatever means - should come off quite easily

clean up all edges of metal - new panel and old and spray on some weld through primer

offer the new panel upto the car over lapping at the egdes, once happy with position secure with grips or small screws (i prefer screws as its easier to relocate)

with the new panel overlapping where you cut previously, cut through the 2 thicknesses of metal - new and old, this will make the join easier to weld as the gaps will be nice and even, remove all the unwanted metal and re attatch the panel your gaps to be welded should be nice and even approx 1 mm thick

tack the panels in place starting in the middle of the join then at either end adding tacks in between each other , alternating ends of the weld helps prevent distortion

if you have a spot welder then just spot weld on where it was before, if you havnt then when drilling the spot welds out - just go all the way through then you can plug weld these to the new panel from the inside

grind off all the welds once done and finish with some body filler if needed

seal up the joins where needed using tiger seal or sikaflex, remembering to prime the joins first

to do the fuel cap just have a look how its attached - remove filler neck and drill out spot welds like before

just take your time and it'll be ok


there you go - jobs a good un

stand back admire work and gloat to your mates - also feel free to grab a beer

oh and spray some waxoyl inside the sils when youre done

hth Phil

[j4m35]

where do you get the rear quarters an how much thanx jay

[rednova]

usually around the 70 quid mark from places like hadrian panels and SEL imperial

[SRlew]

yer mine was about ?70, i got mine from a local paint/tool etc supplier. but was originaly going to get one from sel-imperial.