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Adam
09-10-06, 09:53 PM
As above.
A fuel and nitrous kit.
Or can you just use it running off a throttle switch for WOT?

Im liking the idea of fitting some to my 1400 ;)
And seen a few cheap kits go on ebay for the same price as a set of 40s, inlet etc etc.
Benn
09-10-06, 11:01 PM
just do it to a flick switch/button,press it and get a shot of nos down each inlet port...
craig0120
10-10-06, 07:35 AM
should think a switch on WOT will be ok as thats the only time u wanna use it anyway
Stuart
10-10-06, 09:28 AM
a controller would be idel for trying to run "big" power....

any links to these kits youve seen as some are truely horrific!!! (ie Nitrous Express, NOS etc lol)
burgo
10-10-06, 01:01 PM
you dont need one but your engine will prefere it
total_vauxhall
10-10-06, 01:15 PM
it is not needed ules ur planing on running like over 100 bhp of nos then it would be advised but if the car is carbed u will need an injector plate insted of foggers
total_vauxhall
10-10-06, 01:16 PM
it is not needed ules ur planing on running like over 100 bhp of nos then it would be advised but if the car is carbed u will need an injector plate insted of foggers
Adam
10-10-06, 02:30 PM
(ie Nitrous Express, NOS etc lol)
Errrrrrr lol



I've read a 20-40% power increase should be nice and safe on any engine in good running condition, and a progressive controller is required for when at low rpm/load etc, not WOT.
total_vauxhall
10-10-06, 02:37 PM
yea thats about right
Adam
10-10-06, 02:45 PM
I wonder if it would take enough to get it to XE sort of power, for a few seconds, Lol.
Talking of probably 60bhp needed tho.
draper
10-10-06, 02:55 PM
whats WOT ??
Adam
10-10-06, 03:07 PM
Wide Open Throttle
draper
10-10-06, 03:16 PM
a-ha, now i understand more lol
Adam
10-10-06, 03:19 PM
Lol
Its a switch fitted to the throttle lever/pedal which when the throttle is wide open it triggers the nitrous/fuel solenoids.

I guess the different kit quality shows, as the Wizard of Nos one is about ?500, and theres some for about ?360 new.
Also a couple of second hand kits for around ?200 ish mark.
Matt2107
10-10-06, 03:24 PM
I'll be interested in seeing how you get on with this as I fancy some on my GTE.
draper
10-10-06, 03:31 PM
id like some

altho id have on a push button like f+f
Matt2107
10-10-06, 03:39 PM
I could guarantee the floor pan wouldnt fall out when you pressed it though.
Adam
10-10-06, 03:48 PM
Lmao.
Yeah, and all the street lamps will go blurred lol

But im really liking to idea of maybe a 120-130bhp 1.4 8v SPI.
draper
10-10-06, 03:57 PM
I could guarantee the floor pan wouldnt fall out when you pressed it though.

i wouldnt be so sure - its a nova and ill be doing the welding lol
novaboyopr
10-10-06, 04:07 PM
i run 100bhp on my xe without a progressor and it works fine in 2nd just can use it in first. it would be better to use a progressor due to the nitrous being delivered in stages instead of 1 big lot.
total_vauxhall
10-10-06, 07:05 PM
is your xe standard and taking that much or u running arp bolts ect im only running 25 on my xe but if urs holds 100 i think ill be putting bigger jets in
Benn
10-10-06, 07:09 PM
25 per port....on a button....
Stuart
10-10-06, 07:15 PM
thats going to end in tears.....

a controller is needed for 50 shots and above really....
Philsutton
10-10-06, 07:36 PM
i run about 70bhp or near abouts on mine just off a button on my chav gear knob lol, it looks so gay but it works well. I like to have full control over my nitrous. Its great fun when it comes boost an nitrous, dances all over the shop.
Adam
10-10-06, 08:00 PM
Phil-Do you run a controller then?
Or just run the solenoids off the button on your gear knob? Lol

Do you have any pics of the engine bay and how you have the solenoids, tubing etc fitted?

To setup should be quite straight forward with the spi system, just fit the injector into the tubing, or the airbox itself just before the throttle body.
And the solenoids on the inner wing, or somewhere by the battery.

Its just getting the money together for the kit now,Lol.
Philsutton
10-10-06, 08:17 PM
i dont run any controller, its all done off push button on my gear stick. Basically i have a big arming switch on my dash which arms the system then the push button for completing the circuit, for how ever long the button is pressed the solenoids will open ect..

I have my injector fixed into the top hat of the inlet and positioned so that when it sprays nitrous and fuel it isnt just spraying it straight into the side of the it so it can be a mist so to speak. Ive but the solenoids as close to the injector as possible, here are some pics but it rather dark out.

also note how i have shiny bits and neat boost pipes lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/philsutton/Photo-0027.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/philsutton/Photo-0028.jpg
Adam
10-10-06, 08:24 PM
Ah ok, you've got the solenoids mounted on the firewall.
Are they ok there, i've read keep them away from hot areas due to it causing the nitrogen liquid to boil, but also to keep the lines from solenoid to injector quite short.
Cheers for the pics.
Philsutton
10-10-06, 08:27 PM
To be be fair they will get hot any where in my engine bay when im ragging it, the joys of having a turbo.
Adam
10-10-06, 08:33 PM
Aye true.

Looks like im heading over the Wizard of Nos forums, see if i find anyone selling a second hand Won kit.