has any 1 done a 4x4 nova

[inushmiah]

how would the set up be done just the rear beams, any 1 have any experience in this field

[Stuart]

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its been asked and people have claimed to have started doing them sooooooooo many times now and never seen one (a proper one not the gay boost beast thing)

basically for the money and effort involved, just go buy an evo lol

[mini_kris]

i wana build a rwd nova next year, going to collect bits over time and then just do it dont think rwd is to much of a big isue because of the donor car ive got, what 4wd system other than the calibra could you use that would be a fairly straight swap?

[mini_kris]

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basically for the money and effort involved, just go buy an evo lol

i beg to differ, if your good at welding and have a fair old knowlege of engineering i dont see why any one couldnt do it for alot less money and a nova killing a scooby/evo would be well worth watching

[General Baxter]

and a nova killing a scooby/evo would be well worth watching

you can do that for ?500 thought the front wheels lol

[mini_kris]

yeah but surely traction is a serious issue, i owuldnt think over 240ish bhp you would be able to keep the traction down over the front wheels?

[General Baxter]

start in 4th lol

[Jack]

Stick a Nova bodyshell on a Pulsar GTiR chassis :D

[General Baxter]

jap crap lol

[Stuart]

there is no "easy" swap lol.


you could take a justy and build a space frame chassis round it and put a nova shell ontop.

oh you could do it for less than the cost of an evo, but your time isnt free. no one EVER considers that in build stuff. I made things like a pedal box etc as i deemed it cheaper but then totted up my time and it cost like 4 times more than buying one from an expensive supplier lol.

What you need to do is work out what you want from the car and build to suit it. ie if you want a good track car then leave as fwd as there are lots of excellent examples for that, drag racing... again lots of good examples (and if you do go rwd/4wd you get dumped into classes that you simply wont be competative in), if its jsut for messing about on the road then soften a track spec up a bit...

[staggy_gsi]

aparently someone in bridlington has a 4x4 nova, but i havent seen it so its probably bullsh!t lol

[wudgey]

ive sin a 4wd nova on sky on one of the rally programmes on sky sports but it wasnt a road going car. but ive allways wanted 2 build a 4wd nova and go as stupid as i can with the power but its money at the mo lol

[Stuart]

why do people belive that 4wd is "the best" ok its good if your rallying but in a road going car its a bit of an unnessecary thing unless youve got something like 500HP min (imho).

and building a reliable 500hp LET is going to be a very very expensive and futile task. Better off fitting an evo or pulsar engine and drivetrain in.... but if your doing that you ight aswell keep the evo or pulsar body too lol

[Philsutton]

I have moer than 240bhp in mine. Its only a problem if your very throttle happy. I can get off the line quicker than most rwd cars / 4x4 all it takes is self control something most people dont have when they have that power under their right foot.

Now i wanted to keep this a secret for a little longer but the 4x4 corsa we were building at JNC has been redone over the last 2 weeks. First off we had the axle and prop all done just by bolting it up to the corsa floor. After about 2 years of it sitting there we decided that that wasnt the best way to go about it, so after we had stripped the calibra i had bought we cut the boot floor out of it and put it into the corsa. Its a c20let corsa van with complete cally running gear. Its not as easy as you might think as the engine needs to sit lower in order to give the transfer box room. another thing is if you go past 200bhp on the transfer box it will more than likely spit its dummy out as its ****e.
I know its a corsa but what you have to remember that a nova will be harder to do, even though everyones uncle seems to have but no one has ever seen the magical 4x4 nova. IMO most people talk out their ****.

Anyway here are some pics

[Philsutton]

Also had it running for the first time in 3 years so not long now. More has been done since these pics but this is all i have at the moment.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/philsutton/Photo-0038.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/philsutton/Photo-0040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/philsutton/Photo-0042.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/philsutton/Photo-0044.jpg

[stafford]

ive heard some 1 got the floor pan of a caliba 4x4 and built the nova shell on to it dont weather its true tho.

[Philsutton]

it would need a very hefty wide arch kit to as the nova is alot narrower than a corsa/cav/cally

[TommySR]

looks good Phil

[dannyb]

ive heard some 1 got the floor pan of a caliba 4x4 and built the nova shell on to it dont weather its true tho.

In the February 2006 Total Vauxhall, there is a Mk1 Astra shell. This shell is bigger than a Nova and the guy who built it still had to take a lot of metal out. I Don't know if there would be enough Cally floorpan left by the time you made it fit a Nova shell.

[Lee]

Was going to say Phil, until you so rightly did, that as stu said, its not really going to be an advantage until you go well over 300bhp, and vauxhall 4wd transfer boxes are made of cheese (how many FWD calibra 4x4' do you see on ebay lol) so probably wouldnt handle that power particularly well, and adds weight which reduces your advantage anyway etc.

I think to do it properly on the Nova, it needs ford transmission, which then opens up a huge cost and adaptability can of worms. But as a show car / hill climber, would be a hell of a tool!! Pikes peak stuff comes to mind!

Great work on the corsa Phil by the way!!

[burgo]

ford adaptability aint hard. look at the amount of c20xe mk1/mk2 escorts there are

[draper]

corsa looks good phil - how long untill its finished do you think ??

[Lee]

Different kettle of fish my old fruitcake, were talking grafting a cossy 4x4 drivetrain to a nova, not just an engine and box, but i do see where your coming from, XE's in MK1 escy's are awesome!

[Philsutton]

well it was running with the rear wheels turning earlier ( no shafts in the front you see). Be while yet until its fully done properly. Im taking mine off the road after donnington to "do some work" i 'll keep hush until i do lol, and some bits of mine will be used to make this run right.

[womble sri]

www.waldenengineering.co.uk (http://www.waldenengineering.co.uk) they will do ot for you but it will be pricey
pretty sure ive seen a few 4 wheel drive novas on rally stages etc never seen it at any of the shows or in any mags. i was watching british rally cross last nite on men and motors there were a few on there and i think they were 4 wheel drive. a nova won one of the races because an exige span it and overall they didnt do that well they were either upside sown going off the track or puring out smoke. the guy that won was the bollox but in the third race think he broke down or something haha good ol novas

[jon boy]

My best mate has just finished building a YB powered RX7 .

didnt cost him that much to build , but took ages !

front cover of gay redline magazine this month !

check it out !
:)
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16276&highlight=taner

[Dod]

Right, 4x4 Novas are a fairly common occurance in Mondello Park at the Rallycross, theres about 5 or 6 of tem, all pushing out well over 500bhp. A mate reckons he can fit the GSI Cav 4x4 ream beam with a bit oif nipping and tucking, but the weel base, side to side would be mental looking, but **** it, I've loads of spare shells so might try it. Alternatively, fit an engine in the boot.

[BazW]

there's been a few attempts at 4x4ing mk2 astra's, all of them have ended up being scrapped or sold on as unfinished projects and then scrapped

[Dod]

They've been done though, proper Rally Cras etc haven't they?

[SRlew]

i met a guy who was building a xe nova, and he mentioned a mate who has a yelow kitted up nova, (seen it around before its got black bonet and gay bumpers etc) but the guy i met said its running a 4x4 c20let. but he was a chav so i aint sure! but then again i dont know!

[justnovas]

Need to get it done. and run it down pod

[mowgli]

I have pondered the possibility of a metro 6r4 style of project with a rover v8 & rangerover gbox fitted in the back with drive to front & rear diffs then out the the wheels..........it would be quite a bit of work, but surely easier than front engine 4x4

[Philsutton]

^^ someone has already done that to a mini, so anything is possible

[edens-xe]

nova's are much more fun than evo's i raced an evo 4 last nite and wiped the smile off his face. he wasnt a happy bunny haha. nova's rule!!!!!

[lee coley]

a bloke near me as built a rear wheel drive fiesta

hes built a space frame into the shell and chopped the floor away.

[lee coley]

visit his web site

www.mkengineering.co.uk (http://www.mkengineering.co.uk)

sorry its a RWD

[H15 NVA]

ive got a 4x4 f20 box wiv trans box, prop n shafts for ?200 if someone fancies havin a go!!!