e16se/c16se differences?

[craig0120]

im changing my 14sr engine to a 1.6 8v either gte or gsi.
are the e16se and c16se both small block? also ill be running this engine on t40's and cam etc which i have on my 1.4.
are they both the same power or is one better than the other?
cheers

[Adam]

Both are small block.

Only Late GSI's had c16se.
All GTE's and most GSi's had e16se.

E16se has-
Air flow meter, distributor, no lambda, no cat, and the ecu is in the engine bay, uses Bosch management

C16se has-
MAP sensor, DISpak,Lambda,Cat, and its ECU is inside the car, uses Multec management.

They are both very similar power, C16se slightly more.

I'd go with a e16se, plenty about, whereas you dont see many c16se's.

[craig0120]

so seen as ill be running the t40's on it then it doesnt matter which one i have
i dont mind which i have but just wanted to check that they are basically the same engine if running on my setup

[Welsh Dan]

edit: too late lol

[Adam]

I'd find a e16se, and rebuild it, most have probably done 150+ k miles by now(around 16+years old)

[craig0120]

iv got a 16sv bottom end (same as e16se) that i was rebuliding and also got a gte head but iv lost interest in rebuilding it so now looking for a complete engine