Keiths Nova Turbo build

[krobinson]

Some people will already have seen this from other forums or the WIP threads.

Here we have my Latest purchase. A 1990, 1.4 L Vauxhall Nova. It?s done under 500 miles between every MOT, Just 9 miles a week since new. Totalling 8418 genuine miles.

The Elderly male first owner gave it to his sister in 1992, and from then until 2006, she wrote down the miles upon every fill of petrol, the price of the petrol and the date when filled. It?s shocking that 20.1 litres of fuel cost her ?10 in 1992!! Wish it was that cheap now.

The pictures below detail just how genuine and clean the car is. It?s absolutely shocking that a Nova can last 16 years and remains in such good condition.

However I bought the car for a purpose, and that?s to build a new Nova Turbo. I?ve sold the shell from NDZ 1331, and kept all the good parts. (this wasn?t planned, but it makes more sence using this shell than using my existing one with the smoothed bay etc)


I cant keep the REG NDZ 1331 however, as i would need to insure both cars before the MOT runs out, tax both etc and i just cant justify spending that money. I may just get a nice custom REG when the car is finished.

The 1.4 Engine from this is for sale ? But will most likely be sold somewhere local.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/New%20Project/newnova2.jpg



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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/New%20Project/engine1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/New%20Project/mileage.jpg


Keith

[rednova]

where do you find these minters - i look everywhere!

[db_1.2]

:eek:

Looks like its just rolled out the showroom!

So whats the plans for it?

[Nath]

i know!! everynova ive seen u have is mint. carnt beleive that engine bay! awesome

[krobinson]

:eek:

Looks like its just rolled out the showroom!

So whats the plans for it?

Its a new projext. Instead of turboing the nova in my sig, i'm using all its parts to build this immaculate shell into a turbo.

Keith

[db_1.2]

A LET? Or you gonna do a gsi turbo or something?

[krobinson]

A LET? Or you gonna do a gsi turbo or something?

LET, 6 speed.

Its basically to reshell this: http://www.novaload.net/forum/viewfeaturecar.php?ref=2395

I had already started to fit the turbo to that, but then spotted this beauty on ebay and thought it made more sence. As when its finished i want it to last.

Keith

[Mike]

Mint! Comlpetly mint!! You lucky git

[vaughanmc]

mint wee nova this one - bit sad to see that NDZ is going, i thought u would have had it forever. should be a good wee project car and no having to get rid of rust.

[shy witness]

amazing.........

findin 1 as clean as that.and with all the details(the petrol filling n'all)

superb


and as i said on another forum....i'm realy lookin forward 2 seeing the wip posts of this wee car


should b a treat

[Jack]

What happened to NDZ, did I miss something or are you just moving on from it Keith?

[Mike.]

its a shame NDZ is going but sometimes you need a change, i look forward to seeing the progress of the turbo kieth

[krobinson]

What happened to NDZ, did I miss something or are you just moving on from it Keith?

I was going to fit the LET to it, its stripped to a bare shell in the garage. Seen this minter on ebay and thought it made more sence to build all my bits into a "new" shell.

So this will most likely look the same as NDZ, but have the LET. Will have a new colour and interior too.

Keith

[Adam]

Jesus christ, mint beyond belief, went for more than i would be prepared to pay tho, but just look at that bay :eek:

What are your plans, apart from the LET.
Mk2 front? Or staying with mk1 etc?

[tom_beverley]

Wasn't this one off Ebay?

Just I'm sure I've read about the noted milage and petrol filling!

Absolute minter mate, I'd imagine it would be almost impossible to get one in better original condition than that!

[krobinson]

Jesus christ, mint beyond belief, went for more than i would be prepared to pay tho, but just look at that bay :eek:

What are your plans, apart from the LET.
Mk2 front? Or staying with mk1 etc?

I'd thought about GTEing it, but i'm just going to style it as the old one was styled.

It went for more than i was prepared for to be honest, all because some woman wanted it as her first car. She kept out bidding me. She also kept ringing the bloke telling him she'd come pick it up asap if i messed him about. If she didnt bid i would have got it for about ?900.

Keith

[JSeymour]

are you going to keep it phase 1style or gsi lookalike?

[krobinson]

are you going to keep it phase 1style or gsi lookalike?

I've only said twice already, but here go's again. It will be MK2.

lol

Keith

[Adam]

I'd thought about GTEing it, but i'm just going to style it as the old one was styled.

Cool, nice to see it went to a good owner on here too, so we'll see how it ends up :thumb:

[-Bruce-]

LOL how many times does he have to say the same thing lol.

Anyway keith, that looks like a belter of a car. Speak to you later you slag!!

Bruce

[Ian]

Do you go around murdering old people and stealing their mint novas? ;)

[Mazz]

That's unreal! Amazing how its survived 16 years and still in A1...

[krobinson]

Do you go around murdering old people and stealing their mint novas? ;)

Yes.

Keith

[vaughanmc]

good one there about the old people - theres a 2 door nova on ebay with about 6.5k on the clock - wonder who will get that one.

Vaughan

[SRlew]

mate that is unbelievable! wish i had it!

look forward to seeing wip pics etc too. get cracking!

[leemh1234]

How the hell do you pick up these minters all i ever seem to find is rotten bags of crap

[draper]

sht krobinson, i thought you were taking the pis when you said in a different thread you bought this !!! did it finish at 1.5k ??? fookin bargain if you ask me !!

[BigStan]

That car is absolutely blinding you are the luckiest person in the whole wide world !

[mad-driver]

Wow Keith, just how mine looked when i got it lol, didnt think there could be another, and funny how the bloke i bought it off used to write down when he put petrol in it, and even how many mpg he got!

Very nice, i'm sure it will be everything like your green one:thumb:

[TommySR]

absoltuely amazing find mate, cant wait for it to be turned into a C20LET tho lol

[krobinson]

Well guys - NDZ 1331 is officially dead in my eyes. Its sold to the Lynch brothers (local hillclimbers) and is being used to reshell there rallycar. Really happy about this as i wont see it on the road again, and it will hopefully bring them loads of success.

Goodbye Chap -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/byebye1.jpg
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Just need someone to give me good money for the 8k 1.4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/New%20Project/engine3.jpg

Then its time to get to work turning this into my new nova turbo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/New%20Project/right.jpg

Will keep you all updated :)

Keith

[BigStan]

I still cant believe how mint that car is !

How much did you buy it for ?

[Matt2107]

I'm not an envyous (sp?) person but you are a very very lucky boy.

[Ash]

Do you go around murdering old people and stealing their mint novas? ;)
Yes.

Keith

*quickly runs out a pours paint stripper over the car and dents the roof*

phew, i feel better now.

A

[peester]

wow keith.. i had no idea about ur merit ++! well, glad ive got some pics of it at least bit gutted to haven't been able to see it..
So, a turbo hey.. well i know its gonna be a gooden so, can't wait for it.. good luck to you, that blue 1400cc is special, can see the potential.

[krobinson]

Cheers dave, Really looking forward to getting started on it, but for now its time to do loads of saving before i strip it :)

Keith

[Adam Moran]

Your a fooking nutter in a 1.3!! God only knows what the hell is going to happen when you get the turbo in lol

I WONT be getting in for a ride ;)

ps whos the blade?

[burgo]

id give my left testicle for one like that any day

[hybridturbo]

Wkd Car - Looking forward to seeing the end result :)

[RJM25R]

Good luck Keith. Any idea's on a colour????

[krobinson]

Loads of firm ideas, but not chosen a colour yet. I'll gather up loads of options and decide when i can afford to paint it.

Keith

[krobinson]

Following on from building the 1.4 into my daily driver, this 1985 1.2L with 13k genuine miles will now be the base for the nova turbo. The end product wont change, but this way i have a nicer daily drive.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/000_0034.jpg
Updates will follow as i strip it.

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Now that the runabout is totally finished. Its time to concentrate on the turbo project. Big thanks to Alister for giving me his spare cool running thermostat.

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Should keep the LET cool :)

I promise some big updates will come before x-mas.

Keith

[Dave.]

is this nordic blue?
if so god your lucky.

[Kev Turbo]

the dark blue 8k miles one is nordic blue yes, i have one in same condition with 12k on,

[krobinson]

Its got 9k on it now and is my daily car. The silver one above is the new nova project.

Plans at the moment are to save save save.. then:

Trial fit engine, then send to get rebuilt
Get HH kit and strengthning done
Send shell to get dipped and painted

Keith

[Martin]

gonna be a minter then keith.. really cant wait to see it..

[Riggy]

keith you do really know your stuff when it comes to nova porn lol :thumb:

[krobinson]

Well folks... tiny update, doing a bit of pre-christmas spending, and thats all i can afford until after x-mas!

Mount to weld to the chassie leg, and bracket to mount for 6 speed box.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/6speed.jpg

Front engine bracket to drivers chassie mount, and rear spacers, to space the engine across.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/XE-LET.jpg

And finally, the Chris astley (or harry hockley copy) Chassie strengthning kit. Loads in there, didnt remove it all.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/platingkit.jpg

Next update will be a trial fitted engine, and welded up bay.

Keith

[craig green]

Should be enough to keep you busy Keith. Nice one.

[krobinson]

Tiny update today, spent most the day clearing out the garage, I've now stripped the LET of its inlet, and bolted the 6 speed on.

Should be easy to trial fit it now in the coming weeks when i get a lend of an engine lift. Then its off to Steven Gault for a rebuild.

Also notice the lovely storage boxes bought to try and make this a tidier build!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/let6speed.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/storagew.jpg

Keith

[ben doodar]

two absolute beutys there, but what was wrong with the origanal green 1 i loved that it looked spot on

[krobinson]

two absolute beutys there, but what was wrong with the origanal green 1 i loved that it looked spot on

Fancied a new challange, had it stripped ready for the turbo conversion, but then saw the low mileage one on ebay and it made more sence to do it with a stunning shell. The 1985 one i'm now using i bought with 4k on the clock and its absolutely stupidly clean, and so needs no repair at all for the rebuild. The low mileage one i bought with the intention of turboing is now a GTE rep that i drive everyday.

Keith

[krobinson]

Well, its stripping time!

My folks are going to england at the weekend, so all the important bits people have bought from me had to be stripped off ready to be shipped over. This is also prime opertunity to trial fit the LET (coming in next week/2)

Please do now look at the below pics if you hate me for ripping apart a mint, original nova.

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Keith

[krobinson]

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[Ben]

LMAO thats awesome! Liking that Keith!

[hybridturbo]

lol Dunno whats cleaner the car or the garage

[nova ian]

Absolutley mint, this will be top notch when complete. keep up the good work. Stunning car

[krobinson]

LMAO thats awesome! Liking that Keith!

lol, i think we all knew when i bought it in 2004 this would happen!! lol


lol Dunno whats cleaner the car or the garage

Thats what the hold up has been, i gutted the garage and dad painted it on his day off. So now its much cleaner to work in :)

Keith

[Kev Turbo]

good work kieth, shame to see it get stripped but needs must

[vaughanmc]

mint base to work on! should be a belter when its done

[NickWalliams]

fair doos thats one nice garage! oh and the car aint bad either lol

[krobinson]

Just back from the garage! - The floors not so mint now, covered in mud dust from the car lol.

Me and my dad have been rushing to strip off all the bits i'm selling for thursday when he leaves for england to see his mum. I've swapped the axel over to my rear disc beam from NDZ 1331, just so i can throw some speedlines on and measure how much arch work needs done (hopefully very little as i want complete arches)

The brake servo and fuel tank are now off too, and once again no nasty supprised, still minty mint. Should be awesome once its dipped and e-coated next year.

Fingers crossed i can borrow an engine lift this weekend and trial fit the LET and sort the mount for the F28.

Keith

[graham kirkbride]

looking great, keep up the good work

[krobinson]

Today we trial fitted the C20LET. It will be removed again for the shell to be strengthened and painted.

I'll let the pictures below do the talking (with some comments) Huge thanks to cormac for giving me his saturday, and a lend of his engine lift, cant thank you enough!

1.2 Engine stripped back.
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C.V Nuts removed.
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Sexy Cormac!
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Me Pulling a stupid face :wave:
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[krobinson]

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Engine Secured to be lowered down.
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Engine Dropped to the floor!
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[krobinson]

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Nice Empty bay - Its turbo time!
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Cormac Drilling out the spot welds for the old 5 speed mount.
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Engine with 6 speed, ready to be fitted.
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Lifting the shell up!
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Engine pushed under.
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[krobinson]

Me all excited :P
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Up we go!!
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Woohoo!!! Its in and almost mounted up.
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Turbo cover and air filter in trial position. Looks awesome. But will be a million times cleaner for the final fit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/02122006381.jpg

[krobinson]

Chris Astley mount for the 6 speed box, replaces the old mount that we drilled off.
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Look how close the F28 sits to the inner wing!
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Tight to the steering rack!
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This needs to go, so i can get better access.
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Remove Spot welds
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And its gone!
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And its now tucked away for the night!
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Thanks once again to cormac, and to Terri-Ann, it couldnt have been done without you.

NEXT ON THE ADJENDA:

Remove the engine again and send to S-Gault for a freshin up.

Send shell to get seam welded, the 6 speed mount and harry hockley strengthning kit to be welded in.

Thanks for looking!
Keith

[macc nova]

looks like a good fun days work.:thumb:

[scott.parker]

Keith you crazzy lad...
your lagoon green one was well nice...fair play to taking on a new project mate..

i love the way you keep finding these mint novas in ireland though,you should become the irish nova secondhand dealer lol...

Keep us updated mate..

Good luck.

Scott

[krobinson]

Keith you crazzy lad...
your lagoon green one was well nice...fair play to taking on a new project mate..

i love the way you keep finding these mint novas in ireland though,you should become the irish nova secondhand dealer lol...

Keep us updated mate..

Good luck.

Scott

I only found this one local. My other one (the blue 1.4) i got from england!

Keith

[Nobby]

fair play mate the luck of the irish ay you make it all look so easy!!

[Jonlem]

Looking great keith.

[krobinson]

Been trial fitting the loom tonight, just to see wheres best to route it so its not showing all over the place. Some of it seems a little damaged so i might source another. Can you still get LET looms new from vaux?

Offered up the inlet, the fuel rail, loom and turbo. Think i'm definatly going to have a removeable slamm panel for better access, as its pretty tight!

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Keith

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Keith

[Kev Turbo]

reference new loom, may as well shell out for autronic or similar one if you want one,

1)more power
2)looks neater
3) a vauxhall one will be silly money!

just somthing to think about

[NickWalliams]

keith why dont you just strip all the original heatwrap off the old loom and tidy everything up and use new heat shrink?

This is what Im in the process of doing. Have a look at my mates nova LET note he hasnt cut the slam panel out!

follow what I msn'd you since your asleep!

[Kev Turbo]

i think they look better with slam panel not cut, just a bit tidier, with the kkk there is no real need to unless you want the extra space,

anything more than standard kkk size turbo and its best to cut as you will be tight for room to get everything in

[Adam]

reference new loom, may as well shell out for autronic or similar one if you want one,

1)more power
2)looks neater
3) a vauxhall one will be silly money!

just somthing to think about Autronic is going to cost a LOT more than sourcing another LET loom tho....

I'd have a look at the loom, see whats damaged on it, might be alright and be something that doesn't need wiring into the nova loom. Pretty sure theres some spare wires that you dont need in a nova.

[Chris]

about ?1200 for Autronics, Keith aasked about new LET looms from vauxhall, as Kev says it would be better in the long run, I dont think that the cost difference would be much, then consider the tuning potential and what it would cost to get EDS software to similar power not to run as well as the autronics.

Looking great Keith, keep it up

Chris

[Kev Turbo]

about ?1200 for Autronics, Keith aasked about new LET looms from vauxhall, as Kev says it would be better in the long run, I dont think that the cost difference would be much, then consider the tuning potential and what it would cost to get EDS software to similar power not to run as well as the autronics.

Looking great Keith, keep it up

Chris

my point exactly he said NEW let loom,

at end of day its a bunch of wires in plastic casing so its repairable!

[Jonlem]

If you want a loom making Keith then I know a guy that would do a pukka job. Price would be about ?400 with all new connectors included. He has done several cosworth looms for me and they are awesome, I'll dig out a pic.

Why use aftermarket management ? Just stick with the moronic and speak to Stu @ Motorsport Developments for a live mapping session.

Much better than the EDS or EVO chips.

Regarding the slam panel it is much easier to have it removed for when working on the engine, but it does looks miles tidier with it left untouched, knowing how nice you keep your novas Keith I would attempt to leave the slam panel in situ and work round it.

[Jonlem]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/DSC00029.jpg

[dan16v]

keith if you are sticking with the kkk there is deffo no need to remove the slam panel! just remove the bar that runs to the cross member as i think you have done already?
looks like its coming on well though mate!:)

[NickWalliams]

That loom is lovely! whats this I hear about live mapping didnt know it was possible on a LET ecu. How much does it cost?

[Jonlem]

Yep the loom is bloody awesome mate, his work is A1.

Live mapping on a cossy is approx ?600, but I think thats over 3 days everything is looked into. cold start etc..

Best to look through his website really and drop Stu a email about any enquiries.

He can crack just about any ecu now so no need to upgrade to an aftermarket ecu unless your building something completely mad.

http://www.motorsport-developments.co.uk/

[krobinson]

Cheers for the info Jonboy, let me know when your mate can do it and i'll get it all wrapped up ready to send - probably after x-mas tho!

Keith

[krobinson]

The Inlet and turbo were discustingly dirty lol. So since the weather was slightly better today, i went and steam cleaned them both. The inlet could still do with some autosol to remove some of the dirt, but until the engines rebuild it makes it cleaner to work at.

Turbo came up excellent, and will only now need a quick rub over to make it 100%.

Should be taking the engine out next weekend. And the strengthning to the shell is scheduled for Jan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/inlet.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/turbo1-1.jpg

Keith

[NickWalliams]

Cheers for the info Jonboy, let me know when your mate can do it and i'll get it all wrapped up ready to send - probably after x-mas tho!

Keith

You getting a new one made up keith or your one reconditioning?

[krobinson]

I just got the wishbones back today from my neighbour, they've been plated at the bottom to box them in and add strength. I also asked him to put in two small tubes where the bolts go, to prevent the box section collapsing when under pressure from the bolts.

The ball joint will run on top (usually inside the section) and the tie bar below (to clear the gearbox)

Some pics, Check out how neat the tig welding is!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1804.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1803.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1802.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1801.jpg

Keith

[Novasport]

Thet loom looks good, give me a shout if you you need anything for yours Kieth. I can get wire by the metre, most of the terminals & housings, proper loom tape & sheathing etc from my old work.
Welding on them arms is class

[rc]

not dissing your work mate but you sure thats tig? looks like mig?

[rc]

brilliant project tho!

[krobinson]

Yeah its definatly tig. My bailey tank is tig welded and the welds are simaliar.

[krobinson]

Well, incase your all wondering what the hell i've been up to. Here's the
latest mod.

I send the old turbo off to Universal turbos for a recon. I went for a stage 1 hybrid, which runs a larger bearing, compressor wheel and better flowed internals.

Also opted for a new actuator to cope with the added increase in PSI.
It came back looking absolutely fantastic :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/exhaustside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/universal.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/turbotop.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/turbo1-2.jpg

Keith

[craig green]

Wonder how long it'll look that mint after its been glowing red for a few laps of the ring?

[BigStan]

sexy

[Jeff16v]

Damn that turbo looks good, as a matter of interest, how much was the overhaul?

[krobinson]

Damn that turbo looks good, as a matter of interest, how much was the overhaul?

?511 delivered back, but this was with a 3-way group buy. Stage 1 hybrid and new actuator and postage.

They give free collection and postage to mainland uk.

Keith

[dan16v]

Ringwood turbos is up the road from me Keith, a few mates have had there hybrids, they are a realy good company imo, and realistic prices! none of the people i know that have used them have a complaint about the product!:)

[dan16v]

not dissing your work mate but you sure thats tig? looks like mig?

you wouldnt realy get under cut like that with a mig set, not enough heat, deffo tig as some of the bead is concave again due to heat.

[Dave.]

loveley, looks like the good stuff there

+ i got 100th post :D

[COR3Y]

STUNNING Keith mate - You another perfectionist like

Dave... 101 :D

[Dave.]

lol, eh well, wos worth trying.

love the rebuild, keep it comin :thumb:

[joff-turbo-nova]

Keith,

Your thread is a bit quiet - how's it all going????

Joff

[london_chris]

that is tidy, i think those grills and half a bumper are revolting but still it is immaculate

[krobinson]

I'm just saving to get the shell dipped and painted Joff, Its booked in for June and painting after that. I'm waiting on a small trailer to take the engine to get rebuilt!

Wont be a good update until April :(

Keith

[krobinson]

Tiny update -

Got some passat syncro bearings to make some GrpA front hubs, that shouldnt break under pressure

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1890.jpg

Some poly bush's for my steering rack

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1889.jpg

Some new braided brake lines (forgot to take them off my old shell lol)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1888.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1887.jpg

And finally, but the best, is the new equal length driveshaft setup - Thanks to Mark Beeson for sorthing this out!

Connecting shaft from box to bracket

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1882.jpg

New custom outer shaft - Just needs some new C.V joints.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1883.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_1886.jpg

Keith

[krobinson]

Finally got a trailer on dads car, so the engines off tomorrow for the rebuild :)

[craig green]

Got a spec in mind for the block?

[krobinson]

Got a spec in mind for the block?

Just balanced and fresh. Standard rods and pistons, new bearings, seals and the lightened flywheel.

Keith

[krobinson]

Big thanks to VLXGSI (from www.migweb.co.uk (http://www.migweb.co.uk)) for sorting me out with a Billet Machined lightened Flywheel and a Nice Alloy bottom pully. Both are incredable, really well machined! Ordered these sunday night and they came this morning.

Pics: - Sorry about quality, camera phone!

Lightened Billet Flywheel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/IMAGE_127.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/IMAGE_129.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/IMAGE_130.jpg

Alloy bottom pully (single V)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/IMAGE_131.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/IMAGE_132.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/IMAGE_133.jpg

Until the next update!

Keith

[Jonlem]

Is the flywheel just a machined down flat type with the lugs for a pot style pressure plate bolted on ?

Both look very shiny though ! :)

[krobinson]

Is the flywheel just a machined down flat type with the lugs for a pot style pressure plate bolted on ?

Both look very shiny though ! :)

No idea mate - Looks the same as the one courtney advertise (obviously isnt the same one tho) This was alot cheaper tho, and looks very well put together.

Keith

[rc]

very nice shiny bits mate!

[Riggy]

sexual keith , but then again what did i expect from you :thumb:

[R1CH]

Mmm ... Shiney bits, i've just fiitted one of them flywheels on mine, seems to be ok, i had to drill out the 6 mounting holes on the clutch plate tho as the mounting studs are bigger then the origionals, drilled them out to 8mm.
Yeah the lugs to suit the POT flywheel are just bolted on, cant see it causing any probs tho.
Also fitted an Equal length shaft at the same time, doesn't torque steer anymore than it did on std power without the shaft than it does on Phase 2 with the shaft ... so might of made a difference ?
Keep up the good work anyway.

Rich

[krobinson]

Mmm ... Shiney bits, i've just fiitted one of them flywheels on mine, seems to be ok, i had to drill out the 6 mounting holes on the clutch plate tho as the mounting studs are bigger then the origionals, drilled them out to 8mm.
Yeah the lugs to suit the POT flywheel are just bolted on, cant see it causing any probs tho.
Also fitted an Equal length shaft at the same time, doesn't torque steer anymore than it did on std power without the shaft than it does on Phase 2 with the shaft ... so might of made a difference ?
Keep up the good work anyway.

Rich

I wont notice the shafts having never driven a Nova turbo, only been passanger. I take it you got one of Marks beesons shafts too then?

I just need the short shaft now, and new C.V.s for the lot. All will come at the end of the build tho as there not essential yet.

Keith

[craig green]

Those bits look QUALITY Keith!

[krobinson]

Well folks, been absolutely flat out all day working on the car. With the help of my dad we've managed to get the shell stripped enough for the front end seam welding to begin. The dash, complete car loom, carpets, seats, handbrake mechanism, gear selector etc etc is all removed. Cars so light now me and dad can lift the front or rear!! lol

Dash, pedals and brake mechanism removed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2045.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2026.jpg

Rear end all stripped:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2027.jpg

No seats/carpets:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2028.jpg

Engine bay cleaned before welding:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2048.jpg

Handbrake gone:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2051.jpg

Gear selector gone:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2050.jpg

Trial fitted the wings and grill, thank god everything lines up mint!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2021.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2046.jpg

[krobinson]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2047.jpg

Mint roof cloth:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2032.jpg

Mint rear pockets:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2029.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2030.jpg

Lmao@ 1.2 ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2043.jpg

Thanks folks, no update now until after easter when the engine bay will be freshly stitch welded, Chris Astley strengthning plates etc all fitted.

Keith

[Adam]

Nice one Keith, will you be going for the same colour as NDZ?
Or is it a secret? Lol

[Iain]

Wow that shell is seriously clean! I'm jealous.

[draper]

how clean is that car !! bet you couldnt stop smiling when you were stripping it lol

[kevster]

she is very mint :) wish mine was that mint

[krobinson]

Nice one Keith, will you be going for the same colour as NDZ?
Or is it a secret? Lol

I cant go the same colour or it will end up being the same car. It will look the same but i'm going for a different colour. And i'm keeping it vauxhall!

Keith

[ashtal]

mint mint mint :)

[R1CH]

T'is shockingly clean, i reckon this could be the cleanest 'factory' looking LET'd Nova about when its finished.
Top Work fella :thumb:

Rich

[vaughanmc]

mint shell keith -- can't wait to see some more updates in the near future :)

Vaughan

[krobinson]

I've a mint Mk2 bootlid to go on, but what do people thing about keeping the old style mk1 bootlid with the lock removed? Would it suit the GSI style?

Keith

[vaughanmc]

yeah smooth the lock over on IJI's original bootlid -- it would look amazing :D

[R1CH]

Yeah, stick with the MK1 tailgate, smooth off the lock & rear wiper and it'll tidy up the rear end loads (IMO)

Rich

[Terri-ann]

Yeah, stick with the MK1 tailgate, smooth off the lock & rear wiper and it'll tidy up the rear end loads (IMO)

Rich

I agree...
I cudnt quite believe how clean she was i was looking for faults but couldnt find any so i went an played with the ladybugs...lol

[craig green]

Keep the early, handleless tailgate but with a GSi roof tip spoiler IMO.

Nice shell Keith. But you knew that!

[krobinson]

Yeah folks, think i'll keep the mk1 bootlid. Hopefully it'll look smart!

Keith

[vaughanmc]

It will look quality with that boot-lid :)

Vaughan

[Terri-ann]

Darling, i know you will definatly get this on here!
Dinners ready and waiting!! :)

[draper]

Darling, i know you will definatly get this on here!
Dinners ready and waiting!! :)

pmsl lol

[krobinson]

pmsl lol

lol

[Terri-ann]

pmsl lol

I swear this is the only way to get his attention at times....:roll:

:thumb:

[Rob77]

I swear this is the only way to get his attention at times....:roll:

:thumb:

PMSL!!!

[krobinson]

With the Nova away for stitch welding, i've cleaned the garage, and purchased a garden shed to get some of the crap away into.

PS. Borrowed the trailer. Must get one made!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/cleangarage.jpg

Car should be back late this week :)

Keith

[krobinson]

Well I collected the shell today at around 11am. I'd been up on thursday and friday all day, to clean all the seams and help Willy Semple (Pete_SRI's dad) get on with the welding.

First off was the fitting of the Harry Hockley style Strengthning plates, supplied by Chris Astley (cheers!). We were both very impressed with the kit, it fitted perfectly and was very easily welded in.

Now that the shells back I set about removing the steering rack and the complete suspension and axel, as I now need to prime all the areas to prevent them rusting before the shell go's to Dudley to get Dipped and E-coated.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2101.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2100.jpg

Front end:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2102.jpg

Stitch welded the chassie to bulkhead.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2103.jpg

Lower arms box section strengthened:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2104.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2113.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2117.jpg

Chassie cut out and boxed in to give clearance for the alternator.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2105.jpg

[krobinson]

Showing box section, stitch welding and HH plate towards bottom lower panel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2129.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2106.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2111.jpg

HH Plate folded round and strengthened.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2112.jpg


Tie bar sections strenghened with HH plate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2109.jpg

HH Plate and F28 (6 speed) mount welded on top.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2108.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2107.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2119.jpg

[krobinson]

GSI top plates welded in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2120.jpg

Drivers side mount modifyed for clearance of the Turbo Intake pipe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2123.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2124.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2125.jpg

Inside car, where the chassie has been welded to the bulkhead.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2130.jpg

Birds eye View:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2133.jpg

Rear Axel mounts strenghened with HH plate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2127.jpg

And last, but not least, the genius method of Delocking, showed to me by Mr Semple. Lead Filling! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2134.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2135.jpg

Thats all for now folks - Going out to the garage now to prime the seams.

Until the next update

Keith

[Terri-ann]

This project is like a tv series!!! lol

[rc]

looks good mate, all done properly, how it should be!

[lee coley]

nice work!

[R1CH]

Looks like a top job fella, gonna be a belter !!
:thumb:

[krobinson]

Cheers folks, Primed the bay now to keep any rust away until June.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2142.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2139.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2136.jpg

Looks nice and neat. A Little sealer will cover most the welds when it gets painted :)

Keith

[Nick J]

looking good keith :thumb:

[krobinson]

Also modifyed the rear arches, so i removed the rear springs and shocks, put the wheels as far in as they went, and trimmed the arches accordingly. Hopefully i can run it nice and low without any problems (not as low as the below pic lol)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/IMAGE_183.jpg

Keith

[Adam]

Get it that low on the road!! /\Lol

Looking good keith, looks a proper pro job :)

[Rob77]

Awesome mate!

Looking sweet as.

[peester]

**** the bed... tis like porn.. a masterpiece in the making; i hope ull keep this level of detail and patience all the way until the end mate.

[vaughanmc]

looks good keith and very strong

can't wait to see the end product - not be long now......:)

[krobinson]

**** the bed... tis like porn.. a masterpiece in the making; i hope ull keep this level of detail and patience all the way until the end mate.

Thats the plan mate. Hopefully Steven will leave the engine looking like new, so it will only be a matter of making sure everythings clean, painted/powdercoated when refitting. Hopefully i can source loads of stainless bolts to keep it all from rusting too.

Keith

[SRlew]

this is s**t hot!

cant wait to see more now! looking awsome tho mate! good work

[tony k]

nice work there fella keep up the goodwork

[krobinson]

Tiny update.

With Andy Bishop sorting out our intercoolers, its come to my attention that to enable us to get the most amount of room, we've all had to trim the front panel on our novas here:

Before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/before.jpg

Measuring

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/measuring.jpg

Cant go past these spot welds and the lip.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/measuring2.jpg

Yeehoo

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/cutting.jpg

And were done....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/after.jpg

Well not quite. I still need to remove about 3mm off the lower panel too, but ran out of cutting discs (i only had one and its tiny)

An update when i get that sorted. Just under a month now until our trip to england to get it dipped :)

Keith

[joff-turbo-nova]

Looking good - keep it up!

Joff

[krobinson]

Small Update.

I've finished trimming the front panel now. Just a little more work needed. I have to cut some holes out to fit the grill as the front panel doesnt accept a Mk2 grill! (trust me to use such an old shell lol)

Also picked up a fair few parts from vauxhall. Fuel pump holder, new cast exhaust section for the turbo, some fixtures and fittings.

New plug cover, want it powder coated red. And inlet top hat gasket for when i get my enlarged top hat.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/plugcover.jpg

Fuel Pump Bracket
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/pumphold.jpg

Various new vaux parts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/bitsnbobs.jpg

Cast section for the down pipe on the turbo and to hold the lambda sensor.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/castexhaust.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/fittingto.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/oiltop.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/old-new.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/watereturn.jpg

I've got 3 spare's of these if anyone wants one PM me, you have to buy them in packs of 4.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/oiltop.jpg

Keith

[Adam]

Nice, you cant beat new shiny fittings.
Perhaps if you sprayed a high temp laquer onto the turbo downpipe it would stay like that, and not turn nasty cast iron orange,Lol.

Is it this week the shell comes to england?

[shy witness]

looks smashing

and the attention to detail im sure will b superb

great stuff keith

[krobinson]

Nice, you cant beat new shiny fittings.
Perhaps if you sprayed a high temp laquer onto the turbo downpipe it would stay like that, and not turn nasty cast iron orange,Lol.

Is it this week the shell comes to england?

Yeah, coming over on wednesday and droping it off on thursday :)

Was out tonight getting the grill to fit. Had to drill out the holes and shape them to accept the Mk2 Grill as it was a very early mk1 nova which didnt have the holes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/novaturbo.jpg

I'd love to do it Lagoon blue again, and that picture reminds me of how good it looked. But i'll have to do it something different this time.

Keith

[Lee]

whatever you choose, i bet it will look stunning as per. Keep it up pal!

[krobinson]

Here's the last pics of the shell before it go's. I've all the parts which are getting painted with me, and the shell really well strapped down to the trailer.

Parts:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2328.jpg

Rear, And numberplate = the toledos reg.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2329.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2330.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/100_2334.jpg

I'll hopefully get some good shots of it once its dipped. And pics of the progress during the paint job.

Keith

[wisewood]

nice sofa cushions!

[draper]

would it not of made more sense to bolt all th epanels on the car, then up onto the trailer ??

[vaughanmc]

Looking good Keith! :)

Can't wait to see some shell progress pics :D

[krobinson]

would it not of made more sense to bolt all th epanels on the car, then up onto the trailer ??

Yes and no. Heavier and more awkward to lift. Also i have to remove all the panels to get dipped, and door pins etc are a bitch to remove.

Keith

[Jonlem]

Looks good Keith, you wil ve very impressed with the finish after dipping !

[krobinson]

I hope so Jonboy!! :)

[krobinson]

I'm back now, arrived home at 8pm.

Here's a few snaps.

Thats us arrived in dudley at Surface Processing! Quite an industrial place!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/dudley1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/dudley2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/dudley3.jpg

Mk1 Escort Finished with e-coat

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/mk1.jpg

Porsche

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/porker1.jpg

Update when the shells ready for paint :)

Keith

[Mike]

fook me Keith that shell will come up mint!

If i new you were over Dudley way, id have popped over to say hello lol

[shy witness]

should b a fantastic job once done......


i wonder what it would b like 2 own a nova with no rot........ha ha

[Mike]

i wonder what it would b like 2 own a nova with no rot........ha ha

its alright tbh, saves loads of hassle come MOT time too :thumb:

[krobinson]

its alright tbh, saves loads of hassle come MOT time too :thumb:

lol. My other nova (the blue gte kitted one) had all the guys at the MOT station over looking round it, they couldnt believe it was in such good nick.

Keith

[krobinson]

My Exhaust is now finished - see daves turbo thread to see, as he had two made on his car, one for me! (thanks again dave)

Well, this may come as a supprise but i've decided to not continue with rebuilding my C20LET engine, and have just went and bought a brand new one from Vauxhall. It will arrive on a metal caged palet in about two weeks time.

It wasnt cheap, but in reality works out about ?400 more than buying all the parts and having the existing one rebuilt. It will also look new, and have 1 years warrenty!

So looking forward to getting that!

Keith

[Adam]

LOl

Be cool to see pics of a Brand new engine.
Will it come with a new loom etc? Or is it just the "metal bits"

[draper]

smooth move - i think when i looked into buying a brand new C20XE it was ?450 for a bare block and head

[krobinson]

LOl

Be cool to see pics of a Brand new engine.
Will it come with a new loom etc? Or is it just the "metal bits"

Its the complete engine without inlet or turbo.

So everything from the sump to the rocker cover is new. I'll just bolt on my new hybrid turbo, powder coat my inlet and it'll all be pretty much new. I sourced a grear condion loom some months back too.

Keith

[peester]

lol. gangsta behaviour.

[Adam]

Its the complete engine without inlet or turbo.

So everything from the sump to the rocker cover is new. I'll just bolt on my new hybrid turbo, powder coat my inlet and it'll all be pretty much new. I sourced a grear condion loom some months back too.

Keith
Sweet, suprising that vauxhall actually still sell them.

[krobinson]

Sweet, suprising that vauxhall actually still sell them.

I found out from a fella on Mig. But also because i saw a 2006 poster of a daewoo touring car in my local vaux dealer, and it had a C20XE in it. I asked howcome there using an old engine in a new touring car and they said i can still order a new one if i want!

Keith

[peester]

lol.. i know u can still get r5 gt turbo engines new from renault, and had a feeling bout the XE, just its big money asaik..

[draper]

how much was it then keith ??

[draper]

how much was it then ?

[krobinson]

lol.. i know u can still get r5 gt turbo engines new from renault, and had a feeling bout the XE, just its big money asaik..

Its about the same price as buying an XE and doing a good rebuild on it.

If i was to start over i'd have bought a blown up LET for a few quid and exchanged it for a new one.

Keith

[R1CH]

Is it new - new or recon ?
Thought Vaux could only supply recon units ?

Can't wait to see the shell once its been dipped & coated.

Rich

[peester]

well end of the day, you wouldnt have done it if it was silly money.

[krobinson]

Is it new - new or recon ?
Thought Vaux could only supply recon units ?

Can't wait to see the shell once its been dipped & coated.

Rich

Its most likely a recon. But having chatted to vauxhall, its usually all new. Because they dont use oversized bearings, the crank, rods etc all get replaced if worn. The head is new as they dont skim heated ones. Pistons, cams, nuts, bolts, pumps, gaskets all new.

So when it all comes down to it, its a recon/new engine that is probably 95% new.

Keith

[Lee]

A new engine keith? Im dissapointed, I would expect you to trip over one while walking the dog.

'Ouch.. what the feck is that?... Blimey, its a brand new LET!'

[krobinson]

A new engine keith? Im dissapointed, I would expect you to trip over one while walking the dog.

'Ouch.. what the feck is that?... Blimey, its a brand new LET!'

haha, If only that would happen!! :eek: :cool:

[gtetom]

fair play mate. high potential!

[yellow nova]

keiths new exhaust :thumb: i'll get a better picture when it's not raining http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z219/broomy_2007/turbonova027-1.jpg

[Mike]

hhmmmmmmmm buble wrap lol

sounds like your making good progress though Keith :thumb:

[Adam]

A new engine keith? Im dissapointed, I would expect you to trip over one while walking the dog.

'Ouch.. what the feck is that?... Blimey, its a brand new LET!'
Fpmsl lol

[Jonlem]

Good move Keith, peace of mind for you with a new factory engine.

I'd be interested to see if the head has those coilpack mounts welded on like the one I got years ago.

[tony k]

nice build matey just had a good look through that shell is bloody mint see there are still good one out there keep u the work fella

[krobinson]

Cheers folks!

Got word back from vauxhall today - bad news that the engine will take up to 2 months to arrived. My friend ordered a new Z20LET and it will arrived next week. I'm not bothered tho as i wont have my shell home for over 2 months and so have a 2-3 month window open for them to get me it.

Keith

[krobinson]

Some pics of Dave Dempseys C20XE - to give an idea of how mine will look when arrived.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/davevauxhall/engine1.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c360/davevauxhall/engine2.jpg

Keith

[NovaLad]

MMM new engine looks top.;)

[bangerbrian]

how long will it be before you get it?

[Jim]

Just curious, but I assume this "new engine" will be putting out standard power? I'm just wondering why you didn't want to go down the route of building a decent spec, stronger engine. Yes, it may be more work to re-build an engine to your specification, but you already have Steven Gault to do the work for you. Yes you'll have a brand new engine, but it won't be as strong as one that you could have had built. I don't want to know how much this engine was. You have too much money, lol.

[shy witness]

hmmmmmmmmmmm lovely......

the dream of a brand new engine.....lol


do u still have the mk1 front wings off this keith ????

im gonna buy a new pair of non genuine 1's here hopefully through the weeke.........but would interested in yours at a reasonable price as im about 2 get in2 nova build mode myself here

[krobinson]

Just curious, but I assume this "new engine" will be putting out standard power? I'm just wondering why you didn't want to go down the route of building a decent spec, stronger engine. Yes, it may be more work to re-build an engine to your specification, but you already have Steven Gault to do the work for you. Yes you'll have a brand new engine, but it won't be as strong as one that you could have had built. I don't want to know how much this engine was. You have too much money, lol.

After speaking to absolutley loads of nova turbo owners, i've been told that anything over 300bhp is very hard to handle in a FWD car. Nevermind a nova! Even rick and his mega spec turbo nova often says he wished he'd stuck with Phase 2 LET.

I've settled myself to have a phase 2 setup. Which runs fine on a standard engine and is very reliable. Beastie has run his since 2002 until recently and never had any major problems.

I just want to fit the engine and never have to remove it so hopefully this will be perfect.

Keith

[krobinson]

hmmmmmmmmmmm lovely......

the dream of a brand new engine.....lol


do u still have the mk1 front wings off this keith ????

im gonna buy a new pair of non genuine 1's here hopefully through the weeke.........but would interested in yours at a reasonable price as im about 2 get in2 nova build mode myself here

I sold the mint mk1 wings for a silly low price, wish i didnt!

Keith

[John]

When you looking to get the shell back keith? Will the dipping remove the paint from inside sills, chassis legs, box sections etc? If so i take it the e-coat will recover it up? are you going to try and repaint inside these areas or just waxoyl/similar?
I take it the engine is a new build from vauxhall, not one from the vxpro range? (it will have the letter r in front of the part number, signifying that its an exchange unit as in the top phot of the xe)
I fitted an x20xev from the vxpro range to a vectra at work, first one had 5bar oil pressure at idle, (it leaked oil from almost everwhere!) second one had none! Third engine ok, but i learned after that some vxpro engines are reconned by agency staff! Another v6 we fitted threw a rod as the customer drove home!

Anyways, awsome build as always keith.

[Rick Draper]

Wish i had stuck with phase stuff as its just so much easier. Then i see and hear rob's autronic'd spider and you realise its all going to be worth it in the long run!

[Stoo]

u selling up rick or no?

[krobinson]

When you looking to get the shell back keith? Will the dipping remove the paint from inside sills, chassis legs, box sections etc? If so i take it the e-coat will recover it up? are you going to try and repaint inside these areas or just waxoyl/similar?
I take it the engine is a new build from vauxhall, not one from the vxpro range? (it will have the letter r in front of the part number, signifying that its an exchange unit as in the top phot of the xe)
I fitted an x20xev from the vxpro range to a vectra at work, first one had 5bar oil pressure at idle, (it leaked oil from almost everwhere!) second one had none! Third engine ok, but i learned after that some vxpro engines are reconned by agency staff! Another v6 we fitted threw a rod as the customer drove home!

Anyways, awsome build as always keith.

The e-coat reseals the entire shell. I'll probably throw some waxoil in as well for good measure.

I'm pretty sure you cant get a new build engine anymore. It'll be a recon. I've been told all the parts used are new tho, and i assume only the bare cast block will be original. I'm not sure how true this is tho?

Your not filling me with the greatest of confidence with your experiences. They give a years warrenty tho so hopefully if anything did happen then it will happen in the first year. I'm doing this in the confidence that it'll go in and never come back out tho! - Others have used these in the past and not had problems so hopefully i'll be the same.

Edit: a friend is getting a Z20LET from vaux on wednesday and will have it fitted asap. So if it gives any trouble then vaux will be refunding me asap.

Keith

[dan16v]

Wish i had stuck with phase stuff as its just so much easier. Then i see and hear rob's autronic'd spider and you realise its all going to be worth it in the long run!

as you say Rick, an autronic let sounds so different to a motronic one! my friends is fairly quiet, where as myne is realy loud, constantly pops and bangs when you let off or come down the gears!:thumb:
sounds like its getting there slowly Keith!

[John]

Just a helpful warning keith, i work for vauxhall, so i kinda know how they operate. I presume the warranty only covers just what you have bought? ie if it goes tits up they'll just supply you a new block and head assy? how will the warranty stand if they know the engine has been modded and the unthinkable happens?
would love to see the pics when it's been e- coated, i'm thinking of having my sport shell done (although it's quite rough in places)
Cheers, john.

[Jonlem]

E- coating is worthwhile but I didn't bother with it on my shell.

I really had mine dipped to just clear all the old paint off and to reveal and nasties which as it happened there was non whatsoever ;)

If you have a shed load of fabrication to do then it makes sense to get it dipped as you cant ask for a cleaner base to start from

Chassis rails etc will still be fully painted and sealed by the painter when its painted so I'm not worried about the lack of paint in there for now.

Can't wait to see yours Keith, maybe next time you can tow me home at excessive speed !

[krobinson]

Can't wait to see yours Keith, maybe next time you can tow me home at excessive speed !

No problem mate, would be my pleasure!!

Well folks, this has to be the most exciting time for me. Phil from Surface Processing kindly took some shots of my nova after it spent 24 hours in the acid bath.

To say i'm chuffed is an understatement. Its come out without any problems, no holes, no damage under the paint. FANTASTIC!! I'm like a kid at christmas.

This will be the first and probably the last time you'll see a Nova shell completely naked, bare shiney metal!

Here's the pics!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/baremetal1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/baremetal2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/baremetal3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/baremetal4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/baremetal5.jpg

Keith

[Iain]

Saw the pics on Mig, that's immense! Glad it came out ok.

[draper]

wow, how cool does that look !!

rat look anyone lol

[Adam]

Awesome to see in looking in such good condition, not a hole in sight. Just laquer over that, how cool would that look lol

[krobinson]

Cheers folks, very very chuffed at the photos, Didnt expect to get any of during the process!

[Nick J]

Looking good pal, keep the photos coming!

[John]

Wow, i'm seriously impressed! Amazing!

[andybishop]

Looks mint Keith!! Looks nice and Solid, should be problem free for Ade to spray once it's been coated!!

[Mazz]

Awesome stuff :) Very very impressed by those pic's...

[craig green]

I'll probably throw some waxoil in as well for good measure.



Do it after its painted. You really dont want any trace of that stuff in or near the paint booth.

[Mike]

those pictures of your shell stripped are fapping brilliant!

[vaughanmc]

Foookin mint Keith -- Can't wait to see this one finished :)

[JSeymour]

this is going to be one class nova when finished! the work thats gone into it so far is just amazing. good luck with the rest of the build.

[joff-turbo-nova]

That looks one clean shell !!!! If I ever have to reshell mine then I now know how to go about it properly !!!!

Cheers and keep it up.

Joff

[krobinson]

Cheers folks! Must say a huge thanks to Rich (novasport) for all the help and advice when getting this done. He's the real legend here for being the first one of us mad enough to do this, without him doing it this wouldnt be happening.

Keith

[Big_Chap]

looking awsome mate, pity we're going to have to wait til billing/pv next year to see it finished!

[krobinson]

Do it after its painted. You really dont want any trace of that stuff in or near the paint booth.

Don't worry craig, i wont even see the shell in person until its finished as i've got a great big bit of sea between us lol.

I'll waxoil the chassie when its home.

Keith

[Dave-H]

Awesome! Quite lost for words TBH...

How much was the dipping and E-coating if you dont mind me asking?

[krobinson]

Pm sent

[Dave-H]

:thumb:

[duick]

Hi Keith
That's really awesome!!! Wish there would be a company around here that would do that :(:(
If you don't mind about asking .... please let me know about the price

Cheers
Steve

[Jim]

You have too much money :p

[krobinson]

Well folks, here she is e-coated!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/coated2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/Nova%20Rebuild%202006-2007/coated1.jpg

Keith

[tom_beverley]

Looks brilliant, very very jealous!

If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost to get the shell dipped and then e-coated?

[hybridturbo]

Very nice, off to get paint now then? ?1500 Im sure Keith said

[big gra]

worth spending the extra to get them dipped the e-coated, looks top notch!

[yellow nova]

looking good mate ;)

[Adam]

Looks cool.

[peester]

you one crazy sons of bitches
one off nova, lol.

[draper]

looks nice, quicj question - did you seam weld the bay/car before it went or will you do it after ??

[Nick]

It's worth it, but i'd imagine you have to have a minty mint shell for it to be of any use !

I've seen a rotten vw Camper after a similar process

[John]

excellent stuff keith! Are you having the doors/wings bonnet etc dipped and e-coated too?

[Adam]

I spy two e-coated wings inside the car ;)

[krobinson]

Cheers folks!


looks nice, quicj question - did you seam weld the bay/car before it went or will you do it after ??

Look closely at the photos, there's a fair bit of work in the bay. The recess is there for the alternator, its stiched, 6 speed mount, strengthning plates, and theres some bits cut out to allow room for the intercooler.


excellent stuff keith! Are you having the doors/wings bonnet etc dipped and e-coated too?

Yeah, they are all done too, doors, wings, bonnet, bootlid :)

Keith

[R1CH]

Looks ace fella, when you bringing it home ? or is it getting painted over here first ??

Rich

[krobinson]

Looks ace fella, when you bringing it home ? or is it getting painted over here first ??

Rich

Its gettin painted by Ade Culley, should be coming home in september.

Keith