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kronk10
20-06-06, 01:12 PM
Hi i have just started down the very interesting route of tuning my 1.4 sr. I have just rang pro tune and asked them to do me a list of everthing i need iam going for the full works arp bolts reconditoned bottom end port and polished 1.6 head polished exhaust ports etc etc the list goes on. And its all thanks to you gitslol i was just gonna get my inlet manifold bored out etc but someone justed this and that and it whent from there i want some serious power from my little lump. I have thought about a 2litre conversion but i cant afford it plus i had a crash so insurance for anything bigger than a 1.4 is crippling. So i will keep you posted on whats happening and all i need to do is find some money:tard: so i best start looking under the sofa (or ring my bank up)

Mike
20-06-06, 01:26 PM
yeah! you the man! small block big power is where its at! your not alone here matey, SR power is the future lol

ive got the same thing going on on my drive as we speak! an engine in bits lol

kronk10
20-06-06, 01:31 PM
yeah! you the man! small block big power is where its at! your not alone here matey, SR power is the future lol

ive got the same thing going on on my drive as we speak! an engine in bits lol

I thought about attempting it myself but iam **** with anything mechanical so i will let the pros do it. I dont even know how much this is gonna cost they havnt rang me back yet. It should be fun to see how much bhp i can get out of it :cool:

Does anyone do an evil laugh when driving there car and scaring people with the noise of there engine/exhaust.

Mike
20-06-06, 01:35 PM
Does anyone do an evil laugh when driving there car and scaring people with the noise of there engine/exhaust.

yes, yes i do. (mmmmmwwwwwhahahahahahahaha) lol

beating things in a lesser engined car is always a top laff lol (espc when there french *cough, crap* cars)

SRlew
20-06-06, 01:40 PM
yes you 2 are right! SR power is the way forward.

and yes betting a car with a bigger engine is always good lol

Stuart
20-06-06, 01:45 PM
ill bet the bottom end rebuild + head work will be about ?1K if not a little more... + you will be declaring the mods to ins to be all legal wont you ;)

so tis not much cheaper then XE'ing it lol. but meh im not one to talk

Mike
20-06-06, 01:48 PM
stu the legal eagle! lol all my mods are declared as driving a stolen recovery is just asking for the police to pull you over, espc when its a nova!

well, thats what they seem to think anyway??? lol

id rather spend ?1k on a SR block then a ?1k tunning an XE, power to weight is way more fun in a small block nova! XE is brill for top end though lol

SRlew
20-06-06, 01:48 PM
i know. i always think the money i put into my car and am going to on my engine, i could have baught and put in a valver now. BUT. i would rather have small block power at the minute.

and there fun!

Stuart
20-06-06, 01:53 PM
both missed the point of that one :wall: lol

i didnt say it will cost ?1K to tune an xe... i mean to fit one that will instantly have more power than the highly tuned 1.4 and therefore write off the power to weight issue lol. nevermind.


anyway to matey who started the thread.
I hope you are simply going to get a new inlet manifold that suits the 1.6 mpi head as opposed to having your existing one modified as it will work out cheaper and easier from that point of view. Also dont let them blind you with babble that might not be nessecary eg explicitly asking for the inlet to be polished (loses power ;) )

SRlew
20-06-06, 01:56 PM
both missed the point of that one :wall: lol

i didnt say it will cost ?1K to tune an xe... i mean to fit one that will instantly have more power than the highly tuned 1.4 and therefore write off the power to weight issue lol. nevermind.

ah alright then lol :p

Mike
20-06-06, 01:58 PM
i didnt say it will cost ?1K to tune an XE

i knew that, i was just implying if i were given the choice of spending a grand tunning one of these engines, it would be the NV engine all the way

Stuart
20-06-06, 02:01 PM
in all honesty thats just a poor view on things lol. as for ?1K on an XE you can have the slutty porn noise of TB's mmmmmmm but meh this is kronk whats his faces thread, not a "best" value tuning lol

Mike
20-06-06, 02:03 PM
i dont go for the noise, just the sheer driving experience/fun!

thats why i test drive 106 GTi rally cars for my mate once he's built them! oh what fun lol

Adam
20-06-06, 03:36 PM
id rather spend ?1k on a SR block then a ?1k tunning an XE, power to weight is way more fun in a small block nova! XE is brill for top end though lol
I wouldn't tbh, spend thousands on a small block, or get a XE and fitting kit for ?350 and say hello to 150bhp.
But wheres the fun in that,Lol.

Most insurance companys would probably turn you away as soon as you mention Twin Weber carbs, performance cam etc, unless you use a very mod freindly company.

Mike
20-06-06, 03:38 PM
get a XE and fitting kit for ?350 and say hello to 150bhp

wheres the fun in that though! :wtf:

Stuart
20-06-06, 03:40 PM
^^^(up one) bingo. plus as said TB's are nice. they DONT JUST MAKE NOISE :wall: they also bring the torque and power up a teat too, while retaining a lot of driveability and fuel economy when not on full bore

Mike
20-06-06, 03:43 PM
they DONT JUST MAKE NOISE :wall:

im not that stupid stu! :roll: lol

Stuart
20-06-06, 03:43 PM
wheres the fun in that though! :wtf:


where is the fun of writing a cheque for a built and setup smallblock that you ahvent touched yourself?

its all relative to the persons involved

Adam
20-06-06, 03:47 PM
wheres the fun in that though! :wtf: To make a powerful engine, start with a powerful engine in the first place :thumb: lol

Mike
20-06-06, 04:01 PM
To make a powerful engine, start with a powerful engine in the first place :thumb: lol

i prefer the challenge of doing things myself (in answer to stu) even if ive never done them before, ill give it a go and if it fooks ups then ive learnt a lesson. if not then ive learnt something. thats why i prefer to as much engine work as i can myself (and in answer to long live) thats not entirly true im afraid! :thumb:

Stuart
20-06-06, 04:02 PM
this thread isnt about YOU though is it......

Mike
20-06-06, 04:04 PM
ive got the same thing going on on my drive as we speak! an engine in bits lol

why pay some one to do it when i know how anyway! lol

Mike
20-06-06, 04:05 PM
this thread isnt about YOU though is it......

im fully aware of that stu, but the majority of these qeustions from your are being directed at me, hence my answer/s. ill just stop now then :thumb:

Adam
20-06-06, 04:17 PM
My reply wasn't directed at you Last OTNSr's
Just a general opinion.

Back on topic, 1.4 on t40s.

Edit-Why are you using a 1.6 head?

Mike
20-06-06, 04:21 PM
id go for a port/polished SRi head.

was'nt it 8bhp extra in standard form benji got when he put onto an SR engine iirc

Adam
20-06-06, 04:22 PM
Ye, about 8bhp iirc.
The 1.6 head is quite low compression iirc, so the 1.4Sri head would be a better choice than a 1.6 head imo.

Mike
20-06-06, 04:24 PM
SRi head is prolly easier to get id imagine aswell. and a port/polished SRi head with 40's and something like pipers bp300 cam would be a very good combo.

Well, execpt for insurance and fuel prices! lol

Stuart
20-06-06, 04:27 PM
the 1.4 and 1.6 heads are near as damn it identicle.
the sri head would need a skim anyway to make sure the CR is right. So the 1.6 one does jsut as good a job, once skimmed. Technically the 1.4/1.6 heads dont really need any porting work eitehr as they do 5-10bhp gains which is what a port job does too.... ok you can gain more but tbh its not mega nessecary

Mike
20-06-06, 04:30 PM
if you can get hold of a already port/polished SRi or GSi head mores the bonus then!

Mine will be for sale soon, port/polished SRi item :wink:

Ste L
20-06-06, 04:48 PM
if you can get hold of a already port/polished SRi or GSi head mores the bonus then!

Mine will be for sale soon, port/polished SRi item :wink:


for sale sections that way >>>
:p

Mike
20-06-06, 05:14 PM
for sale sections that way >>>
:p

no st1t. if i was selling it today it would be in there! :roll:

Ste L
20-06-06, 05:45 PM
just letting you know for when you are lol

draper
20-06-06, 05:52 PM
i feel sorry for last of the nova srs hes had nothing but abuse on this thread !!

Adam
20-06-06, 05:57 PM
i feel sorry for last of the nova srs hes had nothing but abuse on this thread !!

lollol

kronk10
20-06-06, 11:03 PM
wow lots of comments i want the 1.6 head but i know from what i heard there identical to sri heads so it doesnt make much difference. But as for spending thousands on a tuned small block i might and i might not i will try and get it cheaper but if not well its money well spent plus i havent even got the qoute back yet so i dont know. Plus dropping a 2 litre in would kill me for insurance iam paying so much on 3 rd party and i have no no claims and 1 crash so its out of the question and iam not telling my insurance company **** all mainly because its 3rd party i know you have to tell them but i am not dropping a 2 litre in there and iam sticking with my original engine (bar a few mods;)). I just really wanna tune a small block everybody does xe's let's etc i would love to be different and tune a 1.4 why not?????? :thumb:

Stuart
20-06-06, 11:06 PM
please stay in derby when your on the road then ;) id hate for you to have a crash with me....

kronk10
20-06-06, 11:09 PM
please stay in derby when your on the road then ;) id hate for you to have a crash with me....

lolThanks mate i have only ever had 1 crash and it was not bad iam a brill driver and only speed on open country roads etc. But i cant justify telling my insurance company when iam on 3rd party. they are ringing me tomoz with the qoute so iam ****ting it and so is my pocket.lol

Oh we will have to meet up when myn is all done etc where in west midlands are you

Stuart
20-06-06, 11:12 PM
thankfully im in the glorious south and not the north like yourself. therefore your safe (as is my car).

all i can say is i hope you get pulled and they actually inspect the car...

kronk10
20-06-06, 11:15 PM
thankfully im in the glorious south and not the north like yourself. therefore your safe (as is my car).

all i can say is i hope you get pulled and they actually inspect the car...

Harsh!!! if the insurance will be cheap then i will tell them but i just cant see the point and they allready know about my twin webbers (mainly why insurance is high) so whoevers looking under the bonnet best know what there looking at cus 1.4 and 1.6 heads look alike;)

Fester
20-06-06, 11:16 PM
If you can't afford the insurance you can't afford the car; they're two parts of the same package.

Get with the program and grow up - pay to play like everyone else does/did at one time instead of taking the parasite pikey option where the risk lies with other road users and not yourself.

kronk10
20-06-06, 11:24 PM
If you can't afford the insurance you can't afford the car; they're two parts of the same package.

Get with the program and grow up - pay to play like everyone else does/did at one time instead of taking the parasite pikey option where the risk lies with other road users and not yourself.
As i said i am only thinking about it i havent yet got any quotes of anybody so if it turns into alot of money i will do the whole thing insurance and all but as for growing up is concerned always payed insurance proper (as all my mods now are insured etc) go tea total when driving and never speed in public places etc etc so no jumping the gun i aint no pikey chav ******* and wouldnt do anything illegal mainly cus i hate people who are not insured:mad:

Adam
21-06-06, 12:21 AM
cus 1.4 and 1.6 heads look alike;)
Apart from one has a big "16" on it, and the other has "14" ;) lol

If they see tuning "goodies" there bound to investigate further :thumb:

kronk10
21-06-06, 11:29 AM
Apart from one has a big "16" on it, and the other has "14" ;) lol

If they see tuning "goodies" there bound to investigate further :thumb:

Yeah iam deffo gonna try and do the whole lot all in one the only slow thing is filling in a modified vehcile report for adrian flux its so boring but when protune phone me back i will know if iam going ahead with it or not:confused::tard: iam sitting by the phone for me qoute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike
21-06-06, 11:33 AM
glad youve got the pateiance, i hate waiting for anything let alone phone calls! lol

kronk10
22-06-06, 12:27 PM
glad youve got the pateiance, i hate waiting for anything let alone phone calls! lol
I have been qouted about (i dont really wanna tell:confused:) ?1.400 and thats everything rebuilt and strengthend is trhis ok, they told me roughly i would be looking at over 100 bhp:):):):):) which is 30 bhp over standard i just need the money. And i have been ringing my insurance i can afford it just and its gonna be ****ing expensive. Now its just the lovely bank i need to ring up yeahhh :(

Stuart
22-06-06, 01:22 PM
have a read of the 1.4 tuning guide in my sig....

1.4 bottom end given a breif refresh + arp bolts
1.4 sri head
1.4/1.6 mpi carb inlet
a kent ASAT2/piper bp300 cam
T40's

Setup properly and should see about 110bhp for naff all outlay + you learn something too..... get a haynes manual.

Mike
22-06-06, 01:26 PM
you can get it to that power for a lot less then ?1400! do it yourself, even if you dont know you'll come out the other end with a lot more knowledge then you went in with!

nathan.
22-06-06, 01:28 PM
It would be very very silly to drive that car without declaring the mods. If you had an accident and hurt or even killed someone, you would get sent down for a very long time.
If thats what your planning on doing you might as well not insure it at all:wall:

kronk10
22-06-06, 01:59 PM
It would be very very silly to drive that car without declaring the mods. If you had an accident and hurt or even killed someone, you would get sent down for a very long time.
If thats what your planning on doing you might as well not insure it at all:wall:

I can afford the insurance i made sure about that i have already said that!! iam not very handy with anything mechanical havnt got anouther car to drive and its my daily driver so i cannot just start stripping the thing down on my drive plus i havnt got any space on my parents drive to do that. so should i do it or not. These guys build track cars etc and mean business so there putting in a 300 quid cam in etc etc. I know that i can do it myself for cheaper but the parts there getting are brand new and at the end of the day i will have a fast 1.4????????/:confused:

Mike
22-06-06, 02:00 PM
yes, your little 1.4 will shift alot more so then standard! lol

Gunzi
22-06-06, 02:06 PM
Don't pay ?1,400 for those mods, thats insane. Engine work isn't as daunting as it first seems. IUts all logical, usually if it don't fit then it don't go there. You could probably do it for ?700-?1000 depending on how much stuff you can source 2nd hand eg T40's

You could attempt any piece of mechanical engine work and someone on here will have done it before and be more than willing to tell you how to do it. that the point of the tech sections.

I would seriously have a bash at this yourself, start with swaping the head, then move on to a rebuild.

Haynes manual is an essential companion too.

Good Luck
:)

EDIT:- May have been mentioned but I can't be ****d to read the whole thread; if you want to go quicker strip the car out, its free and very effective.

kronk10
22-06-06, 02:09 PM
Don't pay ?1,400 for those mods, thats insane. Engine work isn't as daunting as it first seems. IUts all logical, usually if it don't fit then it don't go there. You could probably do it for ?700-?1000 depending on how much stuff you can source 2nd hand eg T40's

You could attempt any piece of mechanical engine work and someone on here will have done it before and be more than willing to tell you how to do it. that the point of the tech sections.

I would seriously have a bash at this yourself, start with swaping the head, then move on to a rebuild.

Haynes manual is an essential companion too.

Good Luck
:)

Its space and time thats my draw back i already have the t40's and manifold but its all the new bits etc that are costing and the main lump of the money is labour . I cannot do it on my drive or anywhere else plus i have no other car???!!!:eek: i would rather pay the money for a proper pro rebuild:thumb:

Mike
22-06-06, 02:18 PM
i may be able to pop down to derby from wolvo and show?do?help you out as i got T40 setup. its not that hard tbh.

Gunzi
22-06-06, 02:19 PM
Fair enough, for me I could never justify spending that much for someone else to work on my engine. I'd rather do it myself. Hell if I had that much money if I just spent it on power mods I could take my Nissan from ~220bhp as it is now to ~330bhp, including a larger turbo.
Its all relative I suppose, each to their own and all that. If it were me I'd save my self a wedge and do it over several weekends!

kronk10
22-06-06, 02:34 PM
i may be able to pop down to derby from wolvo and show?do?help you out as i got T40 setup. its not that hard tbh.

I really wouldnt wanna inconveniance anyone mate. This is proper doing my head in my car is sat on the drive (it broke down last night--alarm probs) and i dont know what to do i really wouldnt wanna do it myself and i like the idea of a big power 1.4. But its so expensive and i havnt got the time to piss around. and i have always liked the idea of getting the car in tv after my bodywrks complete and i have some new brakes etci really need to sit this one out and proper think about it:confused::cry:

draper
22-06-06, 03:43 PM
go for it mate !! dont sit and think about otherwise you'll get all rational !! ive got a flat full of nova bumpers/bootlid/suspension/bucket seats/etc etc just bought a 55000 mile 1.2 nova that will be on my mates drive soon ready to be stripped down and off to a bodyshop, gonna but myself a welder and learn to weld, but then again im not building my car for tv, im building it to have some fun in !!

kronk10
23-06-06, 07:13 PM
go for it mate !! dont sit and think about otherwise you'll get all rational !! ive got a flat full of nova bumpers/bootlid/suspension/bucket seats/etc etc just bought a 55000 mile 1.2 nova that will be on my mates drive soon ready to be stripped down and off to a bodyshop, gonna but myself a welder and learn to weld, but then again im not building my car for tv, im building it to have some fun in !!

Iam gonna do it iam gonna book the car in on monday and they said they can do it next week i can get the money for it and insurance so just got to wait now. I have thought about it alot i cannot do it myself iam not capable and i do not have the space or time. Plus its gonna be so fun to drive and own and its for me no one else and iam gonna bloody enjoy myself. I dont have any other hobby and getting my car modded is the only thing i have that means alot!!! so i will keep everyone posted and will post pics and rolling road figures when its all done:thumb::):):)