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Paul16v
28-03-06, 03:24 PM
my nova gsi has started over heating during normal driving and if i put heaters on it does cool it down alot but as soon as i switch them off it goes straight back up. and there is lots of pressure in header tank.
i ve blead the cooling system done a compression test(160psi on all cylinders)
i changed the radiator aswell and its still doing it!!
there is slight mayo on oil cap. but that could be down to little use and damp weather.
i think it could be head gasket failure but the compression is still ok.
any ideas
oh and its 1.6 gsi
cheers
Alex's nova had a high pressure cooling system for a while.. ages infact then all of a sudden it let go... the headgasket was to blame as it had broken between a cylinder and a water way but only slightly so a compresison test showed nothing and oil+water wasnt mixing etc.
craig green
28-03-06, 04:43 PM
same here. Ive had my GSi go like that.
Does it start first time when cold (ie morning)??
slammed saloon
28-03-06, 06:22 PM
just whip the head off and check mate it takes no time at all on those:thumb:
Paul16v
28-03-06, 06:29 PM
yeh it just went all of a sudden.so your probably right it is head gasket.
one went on my saxo vts and the lost all compresion in 1 cylinder!!
that was easy to work on so i expect the nova should be as easy if not easier???
looks like a weekend job!!
Paul16v
28-03-06, 06:29 PM
yeh it just went all of a sudden.so your probably right it is head gasket.
one went on my saxo vts and the lost all compresion in 1 cylinder!!
that was easy to work on so i expect the nova should be as easy if not easier???
looks like a weekend job!!
slammed saloon
28-03-06, 06:31 PM
mate novas are unbelievabley easy to do engine work on. on my old 1.4 took the head off, stripped it, fitted noew stem seals n re lapped valves n rebuilt it all in just over 4 hours
if the gasket has gone the head will need to be skimmed. so thats nolonger a weekend job unless you have askimmer lol
slammed saloon
28-03-06, 07:01 PM
says who? you dnt need to skim the head unless it is warped
generally if the gasket goes then the head is warped.. i know its not a hard and fast rule but hey.
the one i did that went like this (pressurised coolant) had to have a load taken off it since it had annealed and technically collapsed.
every job is different and needs measuring up etc. but i was highlighting that its nota simple head off and on in one day thing since the head can warp.
slammed saloon
28-03-06, 07:06 PM
ok mate i wasn bein a t*** but i do head gasket changes at least 1nce a week at work and if the head isnt warped we dnt skim them n we generally never have comebacks unless its a k series they usually come back for an engine in bout a month lol
ive never had a K series go on me after a HG change ;) well not due to the HG anyway lol
slammed saloon
28-03-06, 07:16 PM
i work at a landrover garage so the engines are on more strain because the freelanders have permanent four wheel drive bt we often have them go after theyve had hg change lol there s***
thought the LR k series Hg was better than the rover one..
slammed saloon
28-03-06, 09:34 PM
theyve just upgraded them again there now something like 6 layer with another film sheet type thing u put on top of it then refit the head, but before i think the only difference was the dowels
Head gaskets go on older cars through deterioration combined with hard driving more than anything else. IMO you don't NEED to skim if you are just using the engine as a std day to day runabout - prolly the least of your problems. But if you have or are going to mod it for xtra power then not having the head checked for warpage, pressure tested, de-coked and lightly skimmed would be tempting fate...
Paul16v
29-03-06, 03:30 PM
just looked at the car today and theres a pool of water underneath and looks like its coming from water pump! i never noticed this before as its always been wet when i was checking the over stuff.
so i'll try a water pump and cam belt and see if that fixes it if not its head gasket.
mikey14sr
29-03-06, 03:45 PM
The rover k series is a wet-liner design, when you remove the head bolts they're over a foot long because they also hold the liners up. If these engines go again shortly after a head gasket change it's usually because the liners have moved during the previous work, and the seals have been disturbed. to cure this is a full re-build job, and getting the liners back in perfectly can cost a bit of money plus you dont know if all's well until it all back together and running, therefore it's easier, quicker and cheaper to bung a new engine in.
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