1.6 16v

[Riggy]

right a few questions really , as 1.0 power is leathel it might have to come out lol , i was goin to fit a 1.6 8v but just to add to my ideas i thought of this

engine wise i should be fine , it will fit on nova mounts , wire in like an xe (kinda lol)

what i want to know is what exhaust manifold would i use? a nova one? or a mod'd corsa one

driveshafts i think will be std nova ones, am i right

how does the transponder thing work - does it just have some sort of sensor which connects to the ecu , and can i have a key made up with the chip in and put the sensor near the ignition barrel ?

any info on what sort of lump to go for ? ive heard that some suffer from egr probs and that there are 2 types of engine gsi style and sport style , which is the best

cheers lads and ladies

carl




p.s what top speed will it do in first being chased by a fiesta diesel pmsl :lol: :lol:

[Ben]

Right first things first this is basic list...

Nova mounts ok
Nova Shafts ok
Corsa GSi top rad hose rest nova's
Corsa gsi throttle cable
F13 or F15 gearbox ok

Try to get a c16 xe and then not worry about the transponder, if you cant and get the x16 xe chat to me on msn as cba to write anymore.

[Ben]

C16 XE is the early Corsa GSi engine
X16 XE is the later Corsa GSi & Tigra engine
X16 XEL is a Astra & Vectra engine

All the X's have the standard immobiliser in the ecu but they can be removed or zero'd

All the Vauxhall engines with EGR'S suffer even the V6's they are a bad idea on all engines, you can remove these fairly easily with a little bit of fiddling.

You will need to cut and shut exhausts, need corsa manifold mated to nova system.

[Ben]

Oh yeah its a piece of pee

[mikey14sr]

forget the standard induction, have you seen what SBD can get out of these little blighters? 200+bhp anyone?

[Ben]

yep also seen SBD blow them up.

[broster]

regarding which is best the c16 or the x16, there is no better engine, people say the c16xe is better, some say the x16xe, they both have plus points, the c16xe is 3bhp more powerful (wooo) and has poblems with vauxhall putting undersized pistons in, so they smoke, also they are alot older, have an afm which has a habit of breaking. The x16xe is a newer engine, has secondard air injecton (which does what i dont know!?) and this can simply be removed with no problems, just unbolt it remove a vaxume line and your away. also as mentioned it has an egr valve, but again easy to fix, go to vauxhall and get the egr blanking plate of an opel for about ?3 and fit that to blank the egr off.

if i was to pick an engine id say go for the x16xe. i did, works well, power of 120-130bhp is easy to get by finding a new inlet manifold, but to get oer 145bhp best bet is to get a set of throttle bodies, basic kits come in at ?1700 for everything you need to fit them.

[Stuart]

sec air injection is where the ecu over fuels the engine and then pumps air into the exhaust casuing it to burn to heat the cat up etc.

[broster]

ahhh, only runs on cold start from what i can remember........

[Riggy]

cool cheers lads :lol:

some good info there but thinking about prices asewll and the fact its goin in my runaround , ill just be goin with a 1.6 8v and spend the rest on my 2.0 :lol:

[broster]

can get the 1.6 16v engines with box loom and ecu for ?200 ish now

[Aragorn]

the c16xe's had better cylinder heads and better port finishing similar to the way early coscast C20xe heads were better than the later ones

as i said to riggy on msn tho, as a runaround i dont really think the extra ?200 over a standard 1.6 8v lump justifies the extra 6-9bhp if hes not planning on modifying it in any way

[Rich]

Right first things first this is basic list...

Nova mounts ok
Nova Shafts ok
Corsa GSi top rad hose rest nova's
Corsa gsi throttle cable
F13 or F15 gearbox ok

Would the rad from a 1.2 nova be ok? Are they all the same?

[Rob-16v]

Sorry, dont know if this has been said,exhaust that needs making and dont know bout n e one else but with my 4-branch the lambda sensor was just bout touchin the rad. if you have every thing ecu,trans key ect its like 4-5 wires, all matched colours. easy.

[Snowface]

tb's on a C16XE will see over 130bhp will it not?

Isn't the inlet manifold on the C16XE the most restrictive part of the engine?

Think that's going to be my next project in a couple of years.

[Adam]

TBs on c16xe give great results, the standard inlet is very restrictive.
I may be wrong, but i think they can see 160ish bhp on TBs.

[broster]

TBs on c16xe give great results, the standard inlet is very restrictive.
I may be wrong, but i think they can see 160ish bhp on TBs.
tb;s on a x16xe (or c16xe) will see over 180bhp..... there is one with 240bhp done by bat motorsport, and someone called andy hamilton has 214bhp from his.

[Will F]

Come for a spin in mine...

It will make you think twice about fitting an XE! lol

[Stuart]

why? its slow and gay :P lol