Wide Track Help

[Phil GTE]

Hi. Part of my rebuild includes a wide track kit. I am getting to the point in my rebuild (slowly) where I need this to continue.

Aside from TAS (bankrupt and I dont trust them) and protec (very dear) are therew any alternative wide track solutions?

Would appreciate any help. Thanks.

[fearless]

Another expensive option would be from Walden Engineering

http://www.waldenengineering.co.uk/nova.asp

[burgo]

im sure demon tweeks used to do them aswell but just had a quick look on there site and cant find it

[Phil GTE]

Walden, the price is too high.

Demon thieves sold the TAS kit at a much higher price.

:cry: help

[Ben]

What do you need phil?

[Stuart]

use yer loaf and design/make your own..... its not "that" hard.

[burgo]

good idea stu. aslong as you make a simple jig to get both sides the same its really not hard. plus whilst your there you can make it all ajustable :D

[Austin_Nova16]

Well, Use an astra GTE 16v rear beam for starts...

[Phil GTE]

The rear isnt an issue - can source the parts.

The front is - I have equal length driveshafts, therefore the track need to be Astra/cav.callyt width (as per the wide track kit).

Could make(have made) a kit with some accurate measuring - just didnt want to be the first!

[Stuart]

what does it matter if you are/arent the first to do it.... jsut do it lol


ive made adjustable tie bars that are similar to the TAS ones but modded slightly, not used them yet but we shall see, trail and error n all that

[Ben]

Wouldnt be to hard to use nigh on all cav parts like non pas rack etc, sod it go and weld a Cav subframe up.

Seen it done :wink:

[garyc]

What effect does widening the front have on the handling? Would the effect be the the same if you used diffent offet wheels and spcaces, assuming there is no problems with arches?

[Ben]

When fitting wide arch kits some people do just run et10-0 wheels and just fill the arches this way, other doing it correctly widen the track, best bet if you can.

[Stuart]

be a cheapass and use spacers then say goodbye to wheel bearings on a regular basis lol

[S_Gault]

you need to jig the wishbones, any one that can build a national hot rod will have jigs for the double a frame type they used or the sierra type in later years. try sonny howard

you wont need the roll bar as they used a compression strut which allows more castor to be used.

[mikey14sr]

make up some longer lower arms from some box section? make sure you get the angles right though!!

[garyc]

.....yeah but if you have to go wider without changing wishbonne etc apart from knackerring wheel bearing any other benefits?

[S_Gault]

it also alters the KPI and KP offset.

lots to get wrong

[burgo]

the effects of wider front end will make it more stable at high speeds but more likely to over steer i think that was the case back in my karting days

[S_Gault]

karts are totally different.

definition of a kart is a chassis with no suspension.

wide track was developed for rallycross to allow them to use a different tyre.. thats all

[Stuart]

the entire chassis "is" the suspension on a Kart ;)

[burgo]

exactly and even if they dont have shocks and springs the whole theory behind handling is the same. fair enough it is slightly different for novas and karts because karts are rear wheel drive. put it this way my brother is a kart mechanic and can get paid between ?200 and ?300 for one weekend that is how much the set up and handling counts.

[S_Gault]

tell me about it.. my chassis was super in the wet coz it had more flex,

I raced karts for several seasons until i got badly hurt and wrote chassis off when another competitor used me as a brake (kart rolled). I still do lots of work for karts as my original uni thesis was in two stroke grand prix engines for aprillia and i have corner weight setup and alignment gear for them

now i sprint and hillclimb instead.

but you cant compare a kart with a car.. roll centres are totally different, one has limited camber change other has massive coz of bump and droop. its not same

[Stuart]

Stuart wrote:
its like asking will a kipper or a zebra give me more power



hmmm now its

Its like asking if a kipper or zebra will give better handling lmao