Which Is Best Carbs Or Injection?? 1.6 Gsi BTW

[Martin]

hi i was woundering with wot i could get more bhp t40s or messing about with injection??

[Philsutton]

twin carbs everytime, unless you go for tb's but your talking lots of money then.

[Jim]

I knew of someone that had a Gsi engine with management that would have given us twin carb peeps a run for our money. Shame he didn't get of his arse and get the engine sorted as it was a bit of a smoker, lol. Instead the perfectly good shell and the engine are now rotting away :(

Jim

[Martin]

what sort of power are we talkin and what mods,,, could i get it near 200??

[burgo]

what sort of power are we talkin and what mods,,, could i get it near 200??with out forced induction you'll be very lucky, even with forced induction you'll still be lucky

[Martin]

how much you reckon then,,,, 1.6 t40s, cammed superchip full system 50shot of nos??

[burgo]

what exactly is your superchip gonna be controlling??

[Martin]

s**t gud point wat else can i do beside that then?

[Adam]

how much you reckon then,,,, 1.6 t40s, cammed superchip full system
Well, thats about 130bhp.

[burgo]

if you can afford twin 40's, superchip, cam, and nos then ditch all the and go for throttle bodies imo

[Martin]

i can get a gsi engine and t40s for ?300, my mate works on jap import cars and can fit my nos for cheeper, and i've got a 4branch decat zorst not gonna cost much really,

[Stuart]

pleas for the love of god READ the guides at the top of the page. it WILL answer most of your questions rather than getting absolutely no where fast!

i appreciate that you want to get the best value power etc and there are a fair few "high power" 1.6's some on carbs some on injection (with aftermarket management not a poxy chip), but at the end of the day you need to read up about what you might want to do then ask the questions rather than blindly asking stuff.... its like asking will a kipper or a zebra give me more power.

sorry for the mini rant but youve posted a fair few questions that people have answerd and it appears that you essentially ignored the answers and asked a new question instead...

[burgo]

thanks for the new sig stu lmao

[Stuart]

your welcome

[Aragorn]

bruce made 146bhp from the standard efi manifold on MBE management with bp300h cam and some mild headwork

i recon u will get more power from efi simply because the fuelling is MUCH more accurate, instead of carbs where youve got mechanical jets etc which are at best a good compromise, u have an ECU that knows u need X amount of fuel at Y throttle side at Z RPM, and also provides the optimal ignition advance at any particular point instead of some bodged on 1.4sr dizzy whose advance curve is miles away from what it should be.

all assuming youve got mappable managment, and therein lies the issue in that its bloody expensive!

[-Bruce-]

bruce made 146bhp from the standard efi manifold on MBE management with bp300h cam and some mild headwork

i recon u will get more power from efi simply because the fuelling is MUCH more accurate, instead of carbs where youve got mechanical jets etc which are at best a good compromise, u have an ECU that knows u need X amount of fuel at Y throttle side at Z RPM, and also provides the optimal ignition advance at any particular point instead of some bodged on 1.4sr dizzy whose advance curve is miles away from what it should be.

all assuming youve got mappable managment, and therein lies the issue in that its bloody expensive!

I agree lol, but i would though. I have to say that my engine could be running much more power if wee got the cam timimg set up perfect and took the rev limit up higher. But then again jims engine is the same spec on carbs and im not sure if mine could get more than his power with out without octane boost stuff!!

Its 6 and 2x3 to be honist, same basics results im sure but one is more expensive than the other.

Bruce

[Aragorn]

yer but jims motor also has more headwork n stuff

u could probably design a better inlet for the efi system too which would help things a lot

[Barn]

how much are you looking at for MBE management?

[Dan]

i'd personally forget the power figures guys as they are only a guide, and a very rough one, ok i know each rolling road a different person goes to is cock on etc etc, they all seem to be but we know deep down its all hype.

The rough guide for any decently modded 1.6 is 150bhp, give or take 10 or so, rolling road dependant, also torque has a factor to come into the equation, bhp isnt the b all and end all.

I only say this as mine proudly strutted its stuff a few years ago with only 140bhp/132lbft (allegedly) and after 2 years it would of lost some of its edge regardless of how well it held its tune, when i last ran pod. The torque may have a factor into why it has and does perform like it does regardless of what shell it was sat in.

People still seem to be hooked on big figures instead of getting a good engine with a nice powerful curve that offers a decent spread of performance which 'can' be more effective all round

Not sure if all of that is relevant, but it fell onto the keyboard regardless lmfao

[Barn]

I'm still going to carb my 1600 was just wondering how much MBE management was anyway, lol