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chapers
08-10-05, 11:01 AM
hi i was just wondering what the best type of performance disks and pads to buy are... i dont want to do the 16v conv as i dont have that much power i would jus like a nice setup that will make sure i stop as i am increasing my performance slightly

cheers

chaps

Stuart
08-10-05, 11:08 AM
erm well there is fook all point in keeping the "std" sized nova breaks.

you cna never have too much braking ;) so if your wheels suit, get the 256mm ate calipers and discs


if your dead set on keeping to std nova sizes, then get the smallet ATE vented setup form the later GSI's and SRI's
get grooooved discs (tarox style is good) and decent pads like Ferodo DS2000's

chapers
08-10-05, 11:10 AM
where can i get these from?

Snowface
08-10-05, 11:40 AM
*brakes*

ebay or get some calipers reconned from scrap yard

chapers
08-10-05, 11:42 AM
oh lol :oops: thanks for pointing that out! i did fail english :oops: or i may of had a typing error :roll:

Lee
08-10-05, 11:52 AM
Gonna have to agree with stuart, if you want better brakes, you might as well get yourself some 16v ATE callipers and discs, but bear in mind you wont get standard Nova 14's on it without spacers.

chapers
08-10-05, 11:54 AM
so your saying i have to have 15's on to fit the 16v brakes is it jus buy the disks and calipers and they'll go straight on?

Dar
08-10-05, 01:16 PM
Yes - Its just a striaght swap. Take the metal back plate off as well. Thats the piece of metal thats behind and sightly bigger than the disc.

Old setup
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/DSC00019.jpg

Old disc
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/DSC00012.jpg

Disc and caliper off - Notice the back plate discarded in the background
At this point its a good idea to clean up the bit facing you. Also before putting the disc on just smear a light film of copper-slip on it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/DSC00010.jpg

Disc and first part of the caliper on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/DSC00071.jpg

Finished - Notice that the bleed nipple is pointing upwards.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/DSC00072.jpg

Hope this helps. I always find piccys are alot easier to follow.
Dar

F188CHG
08-10-05, 01:40 PM
Hay Dar wots your new setup off of m8 :?:

Dar
08-10-05, 01:46 PM
Thats just a set of standard 2.0l ATE Calipers.

F188CHG
08-10-05, 02:03 PM
Wots ATE!!! :?

Riggy
08-10-05, 02:06 PM
agreed with everyone else

even std 2.0 16v one will be better the uprated nova one lol and about twice as cheap :lol:

F188CHG
08-10-05, 02:25 PM
Its ok sused it out :lol:

Adam
08-10-05, 02:36 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/DPursey/DSC00010.jpg

Is that jacked up under the oil sump :o lol

That reminds me, i must get my 256mm brakes fitted, when i cba :lol:

Lee
08-10-05, 02:41 PM
so your saying i have to have 15's on to fit the 16v brakes is it jus buy the disks and calipers and they'll go straight on? The discs and callipers do go straight on but you will need 15's to get over them. I believe you can use spacers to get the 14's over them but dont hold me to that one cos i have no experience of it :lol:

Adam
08-10-05, 02:43 PM
so your saying i have to have 15's on to fit the 16v brakes is it jus buy the disks and calipers and they'll go straight on? The discs and callipers do go straight on but you will need 15's to get over them. I believe you can use spacers to get the 14's over them but dont hold me to that one cos i have no experience of it :lol:
5.5J 14s fit :wink:
But most if not all nova steel 14s are 5J.
So you will need spacers, or grind some of the caliper off.

Just get some wider 14s, or 15s.

F188CHG
08-10-05, 03:06 PM
Get some Cavalier GSI 15" wheels look so good on a nova and cost next 2 nothing :wink:

chapers
09-10-05, 11:23 AM
cheers guys for all the advice... and thanks Dar for the mini walkthru

now i've just got to get around to doing it!

chaps

scott.parker
09-10-05, 11:49 AM
Dar mate just a quick Q why did you remove the plate form bhined the disk? extra air flow??

Scott

Adam
09-10-05, 11:57 AM
Dar mate just a quick Q why did you remove the plate form bhined the disk? extra air flow??

Scott
IIRC it rubs on the disk.

You can either seriously bend it out the way :lol: , or cut it off.

I was thinking about leaving mine on to stop mud and s**t going onto the disk. :?

F188CHG
09-10-05, 11:57 AM
Looks a lot better with out it any ways :wink:

scott.parker
09-10-05, 01:12 PM
Dar mate just a quick Q why did you remove the plate form bhined the disk? extra air flow??

Scott
IIRC it rubs on the disk.

You can either seriously bend it out the way :lol: , or cut it off.

I was thinking about leaving mine on to stop mud and s**t going onto the disk. :?
Ahh nice one mate,well mine are still on there :P

Scott

Adam
09-10-05, 02:46 PM
Dar mate just a quick Q why did you remove the plate form bhined the disk? extra air flow??

Scott
IIRC it rubs on the disk.

You can either seriously bend it out the way :lol: , or cut it off.

I was thinking about leaving mine on to stop mud and s**t going onto the disk. :?
Ahh nice one mate,well mine are still on there :P

Scott
Yeah, i think i am going leave mine on as well. Should stop the disk getting covered in all crap off the road.

SRlew
11-10-05, 02:33 PM
right im glad this post is up, its helped me loads!

my SR has been standing since around febuary so im going to put different breaks on.

should i try and shell out on brand new disc, calliper and pad set up from lmf, or should i just source a bargain for some second hand ones. cause i dont really want to spend ?220 on them :?

any one selling any!! :lol:

chapers
11-10-05, 06:28 PM
sorry maybe a silly question but what car do i acctually get these 16v brakes off of?

chaps

Adam
11-10-05, 06:49 PM
sorry maybe a silly question but what car do i acctually get these 16v brakes off of?

chaps
Mk3 astra gsi, cavalier gsi, mk2 astra gte.
Check for sale on here and Mig, usually a complete set going ready to fit for about ?40-?50.

SRlew-Get the calipers second hand, then just get new discs and pads, discs are about ?16 each, pads about ?12 for a set of 4.

chapers
11-10-05, 06:52 PM
ok this is the last question now...

all the hoses ect stay the same?

chaps

Adam
11-10-05, 07:31 PM
ok this is the last question now...

all the hoses ect stay the same?

chaps
Yes.

You would benefit from fitting a SRI/GSI/GTE/TD brake servo as its bigger than a 1.0/1.2/1.3 one meaning you wont have to work the pedal as much.
But the standard one will work.

chapers
11-10-05, 07:35 PM
ok cheers i'll get looking for some stuff then!

chaps

SRlew
11-10-05, 08:45 PM
alright cheers.
how does the hose come off of the calliper. does it just pull off?
also you know the plate that the calliper bolts to....... do i have to change that as im putting a bigger calliper on?

cheers, lew