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srs1
04-10-05, 11:08 PM
i am at wits end here and its doing my head in.

head rebuilt, new head gaskets and new bolts and torqued up properly.
all sensors re-fitted as taken off.
timing belt set up to the notches
and all vacum hoses are tight.

only thing i aint done is fit alt belt.

symptons.

car starts, but doesn't keep power on.
stalls after about 30 seconds of running.
i am recharging the battery up tonight to start again tomoz and also fitting alt belt to test tomoz.

the cam marks have not moved even when engine has been turned over.

any advice would be appreciated.

Adam
04-10-05, 11:19 PM
Is it on standard XE injection?

Does it just die straight out, or start spluttering and then cutout?

srs1
04-10-05, 11:21 PM
running std inj and now std cams.

Adam
04-10-05, 11:28 PM
Is the ECU light working with ignition?
I take it the ecu light isn't coming on just before it dies?

srs1
04-10-05, 11:29 PM
ecu light goes off as normal when it starts.

Adam
04-10-05, 11:35 PM
Hmm, maybe a fuel problem.
But if it was working fine before the head was re-built, then i dont see how it would be causing a problem now.

Can you start the engine straight back up after it stalls, or wont it start again?

Riggy
04-10-05, 11:38 PM
have you checked dizzy set up matey

srs1
04-10-05, 11:38 PM
the fuel rail shoots you in the face when tested.


i am now thinking towards this idea.


when you look at the inlet cam. the mark for the notch on the rocker cover is situated at say 1 o'clock.
i have aimed the cam notch to point at this.
would it be that the inlet cam mark should be pointing directly up (12) and not towards 1 with the notch to the rocker cover.

i am thining that this would in turn cause the compression in the camber to be slightly off.

Riggy
04-10-05, 11:39 PM
or even stupid stuff like leads on the right way :lol:

srs1
04-10-05, 11:40 PM
bought the old faithfull haynes manual for the cav gsi.

checked and swapped leads as i went to test them.
new spark plugs also

Riggy
04-10-05, 11:45 PM
can you alter the dizzy timing then like you can on a carb car

you know mine ran shit when its timing went

srs1
04-10-05, 11:47 PM
no you cant. its a fixed dizzy poisition.

Riggy
04-10-05, 11:48 PM
lol well thats fucked it then lol

does sound like a timing issue though

Rexy
05-10-05, 12:00 AM
try giving it a cuddle before you go to bed.

Will F
05-10-05, 09:35 AM
Change the fuel pump relay just in case!
Does it rev OK when you first fire it up? Or just it just die as soon as you blip the throttle?

What do the plugs look like?

Philsutton
05-10-05, 05:32 PM
stupid question put you have got the pipe on the back of the sfi box? or you got any holes in the intake pipe after the afm?

srs1
05-10-05, 10:36 PM
all pipes are all connected.

here is tonights symptons.

car starts on first click. but when you put any throttle on, it stalls.

i am pretty happy with the timing set up but its doing my head in now.
i know this may sound daft, i aint put the belt onto the alt yet.

would that effect the car as you put power in?
as in, it will draw power from the battery and cause it to stall that way?

Adam
06-10-05, 12:14 AM
would that effect the car as you put power in?
as in, it will draw power from the battery and cause it to stall that way?
Hmmm, not sure.
My car ran fine without the alt belt, but it aint a XE.

Only one way to find out, get the belt on and give it a go :wink:

Will F
06-10-05, 10:11 AM
FUEL PUMP RELAY!!! lol

Change it! It deffo sounds like fuel starvation.

Chris
06-10-05, 12:19 PM
IIRC the fuel pump relay has been changed recently on Seans car. And he also says that the pressure valve is spraying fuel out when tested. I could go down the lines of management (sensors, wiring etc) as opposed to the timing mate.

Chris

srs1
06-10-05, 06:46 PM
things get better. i think the water pump has now gone too.
car makes an awful sound on start up.

going to rip the injection inlet off again and check for anything plus see where the water leek's from.

if not, had enough. either car is going to a garage to get fixed, or it'll be getting stripped and sold next week.

Lee
06-10-05, 11:57 PM
does sound like timing. Did you say your now running a standard cam. Does this mean you removed a high lift cam and then lined the pulley up to the old marks with the standard one? In which case youd be advancing waaaaaaay too much?

or am i talking bollocks?

srs1
11-10-05, 09:14 PM
car now runs. well sort of.

i found out the problem was this.
there was a tiny little amount of the old inlet gasket on the manifold. this caused the water to leak and also for the compression in the camber to be low.

i then got the belt on and it ran. but i was watching the timing belt and am not happy with it.
couldn't get it right still since monday.
so i shall wait till sat maybe and have another go at it.

Ste L
11-10-05, 11:01 PM
hopefully this will be it and it will be sorted then, thankfully :D