Mines the fastest N/A fwd!

[dhdev (Oli)]

Ran my nova up the 1/4 mile at Santa Pod on saturday at Ultimate Street Car. They changed the classes this year to allow any Size engine FWD to be run in the same class as long as it wasn't fitted with a turbo or NOS.

I put in a best time of 13.878s crossing the finish line at @ 99.53mph.

On sat the board said the class was being won by a car with a 13.2s 1/4mile, so i gave up as i wasn't gonna beat that (yet).

I just got a phone call from Rick @ USC to tell me that, the class leader was a turbo and therefore running in the wrong class, which means that I have the fastest non-turbo FWD car in the country (at USC at least)! and that there's a trophy in the post!

Check out http://www.ultimatestreetcar.co.uk for the report!

Fcuk Yeah!

[ANDYRACER]

Bloody hell thats quick :o Id be over the moon with a time like that, congrualations

[Jim]

Congrats Oli, very impressive time and a fantastic achievement for the 1.6 16v engine.

Jim

[DaveMarshall]

Well done on the time, the only N/A Nova i know of that is quicker is Olly Hewitts but that is a Valver.

[Stuart]

im assuming thats a sub 2000cc engine class?

[Chris]

I think it was for FWD non-turbo class Stu, no capacity limits

Chris

[Stuart]

not taking the gloss away from Oli, but thats crap imo lol
if the class is unlimited in capacity but N/A FWD Only then there was a lack of decent nasp cars there lol.

dont get me wrong its an awesome time for a 1.6 and all credit to oli, just was he the only nasp to turn up ?

[Austin_Nova16]

Well done Oli!

Saw you lined up each day. Car looks absolutly mint! Love the lightened door handles!!

It does seem that there were a lack of fast fwd n/a cars, but then everybody wants turbos/nos and RWD these days!

Not a bad time at all, but you have got an expensive engine spec for a 1.6! by that I mean tb's. But the lightening has deffo done the trick.

A couple of my mates ran there 2ltr valvers, but they were just standard engines, so ran 14.3's... normal times really.

[srs1]

awsome time for such a little block.

well done oli.

[Riggy]

awsome mate well done :lol:

was watching you at pv :lol: made me laugh every time you went up

[BigRuss]

Well done mate :wink:

[Snowface]

looks like he was in with the big block boys aswell.

well done.

[scott.parker]

Nice one mate,but i think you can go even faster yet!! :D

Lol let neil drive he must be a stone or so lighter,every littel helps,i mean if i wernt so lardy i might of got over a 14.5 :lol:

Scott

[dhdev (Oli)]

don't think even rat boy neil could be that much lighter than my stripped out 9stone 13 :lol:

theres defo more to come tho, with a combination of a decent start and holding it in third across the line i reckon a 13.6 would definately be in there.

i've never launched using the handbrake to help balance biting point / revs, i normally just sit there with the clutch depress then just let the clutch out and rev the nuts off it :roll:

when i held it in third across the line (approx 8000rpm :o ) i got my best ever terminal of 102mph.

[Jim]

What gearbox and final drive do you have Oli?

Jim

[coxie]

smart time that .. few mates ran the 1/4 in a focus 2 litre n a is200 and ran over 14 ..

hope my 1.6 can pull that sorta time, id be chuffed too lad 8)

[NovaNeil]

Oih!!! Easy with the "RatBoy" comments :lol:

Im sure my 9stone 4 could of knocked a few more tenths off your time...lol

Well done mate. After 3 years in the making all that time and money is coming good. Great car you've got!

Neil

[Stuart]

it dosent go sideways too badly either lol :)

[dhdev (Oli)]

i'm runnin a nova gte box, i think its an f13 cr? it does 120 mph in fourth at 8000rpm according to the rolling road (on 195/45 15s) and it pulls round to about 7 0'clock position on the speedo in fifth at 7200rpm (approx 155mph on the speedo) :twisted:

[Stuart]

jesus! sounds like youve got the 3.74 FD in there lol

get the 4.18 in and you will rip about .4 of a sec off in one fell swoop, provided you get starting traction.

[Jim]

i'm runnin a nova gte box, i think its an f13 cr? it does 120 mph in fourth at 8000rpm according to the rolling road (on 195/45 15s) and it pulls round to about 7 0'clock position on the speedo in fifth at 7200rpm (approx 155mph on the speedo) :twisted:

It doesn't sound like an F13CR to me, It sounds more like a WR box. When I did my 1/4mile runs a few years back I was using a standard F13CR box and was going across the line in 4th. Granted, the car couldn't rev to 8k at that time, but I was pushing it as hard as I could and a gear change into 4th was definatley needed.

You may find you might be able to get faster by changing your gearbox, but it seems like you have a set up that you are happy with and one thats giving you good results.

Jim

[oggy]

i saw your car fella, woz doin sum good times, looks brill, did u see the white transit wit loads of writing down the side go down the strip on sunday?

[dhdev (Oli)]

yeah it was doing some comedy burnout attempts :lol:

i'm gonna have a go at swapping the box over / changing the fd this winter, the bonus with the box at the mo is that i can hit 60 in second no worries, plus as the car gets drivin not trailored the long fifth is good for cruising (i.e nurburgring trips).

i've done a few calcs using the gearbox spreadsheet and if its a cr with a 3.74 (as the spreadsheet says a nova gte has) then it calculates about right allowing for speedo innaccuracy, so i don't reckon its a wr.

[Jim]

Your probably right, I wasn't taking into account the 8k limit. Like Stu said, a 4.18 or even a 4.53 will make it insanely fast. I've just stuck a 4.53 in mine and it literally races through the revs. I've not been on the strip, but according to calculations, it'll be touch and go if I need 5th when crossing the line, lol.

Jim

[dhdev (Oli)]

doesn't dropping the ratios down via the fd just mean you end up with an un-usable 1st and possibly 2nd gear tho? due to the revs rising so quick and wheelspin issues?

i know its not cheap but a quaife gear kit has to be the only answer, combined with a vaux final drive (3.94) on 195/50 15's (cheap road tyres plus you can get yoko cut slicks for track attack :twisted: ) would give 54mph in first yet on the limiter in fifth at 132mph!

[Snowface]

its got to be a WR box if its pulling to 120 (indicated) in 4th. Sound Most likely a 3.74fd (same as my box), poss a 3.94.

Just going to a Cr374 will see big change (as said) though you won't be hitting 155 in top anymore. more like 125.

[dhdev (Oli)]

if it was a wr then at 8000 rpm in 4th on 195/45 15s i'd be hittin 156 and 194 in 5th, i'm pretty positive its a cr, either that or my speedo's way out and i've got a nigh-on 200mph 1.6 nova :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jim]

What gearbox chart are you using?

Jim

[Stuart]

hmm my calcs say its a CR box with 3.74 FD, which is what the F13Cr in a gte/gsi whould have come with.

yes a 4.18+ fd will make 1st and 2nd a little "quick" but well worth it imo.
going to a quaife cluster makes 1st utterly gay and very long, youve seen the problems that CP has atarting at pod?!?! he just bogs down with the 2nd gear equiv 1st gear, even worse with slicks on.

id suggest a 4.18 fd with F13CR cluster and the WR 5th gear as taht is the only std geat that is interchangeable

the 5th you have now should be 0.89, the WR one would be 0.71, not much difference but would still give you decent enough cruising.

ofcourse these are just my opinions and never to be taken as fact lmao.

[dhdev (Oli)]

i've never understood how c.p has such problems launching, i'm certain if i gave it a bootfull in 2nd off the start even with super glue tyres it'd spin up. my e30 m3 (143bhp at wheels, 60+bhp transmission loss :o ) would spin all thru first (and 2nd) at the pod and that was good for 50mph in first, thats with the benefit of rwd traction and 225 wide eagle f1's too 8) .

[Stuart]

the quaife he has, has a 2.55ish 1st gear, which is a fair bit taller than 2nd in a regular F13 WR box. then the rest of the gears are nice and close for very fast acceleration once moving.

basically the quaife box is good for track use where your rarely going to be in 1st gear.

just looked at my speadsheet and with the F13CR box with a 4.18 FD and the 0.71 5th gear form a WR box you will have the following

Gear Speed @ 8K
1st 33.6
2nd 55.3
3rd 80.74
4th 106.7
5th 168 (this would be a rather sluggish gear though but it will let you cruise)

also the speeds might differ a little depending on tyre pressures and assuming dans wheels are the same radius as yours... which they are very close to.

[taxitucker1]

well done mate great time

[Dan]

just looked at my speadsheet and with the F13CR box with a 4.18 FD and the 0.71 5th gear form a WR box you will have the following

Gear Speed @ 8K
1st 33.6
2nd 55.3
3rd 80.74
4th 106.7
5th 168 (this would be a rather sluggish gear though but it will let you cruise)



Stuart, just a query, on your spreadsheet did you take the tyres size as 195/45/14 or 195/45/15.

[Dan]

doesn't dropping the ratios down via the fd just mean you end up with an un-usable 1st and possibly 2nd gear tho? due to the revs rising so quick and wheelspin issues?


first off well done mate :D 8) First and second gear have never been a problem for me tbh, ok i know i'm not quite on the same level but low down where the initial launch is created i would suffer similarly if it was a problem due to the lowdown torque mine appears to have. i've span abit in first when leaving the line but get some of first gear tractable and second is no problem (that is based on before the diff also as i feel it made no difference on straight line stuff)

[Stuart]

just looked at my speadsheet and with the F13CR box with a 4.18 FD and the 0.71 5th gear form a WR box you will have the following

Gear Speed @ 8K
1st 33.6
2nd 55.3
3rd 80.74
4th 106.7
5th 168 (this would be a rather sluggish gear though but it will let you cruise)



Stuart, just a query, on your spreadsheet did you take the tyres size as 195/45/14 or 195/45/15.


was based on the measurement from the centre of your hub to the floor with the F1's on at the farm a few months back....

[STE Novavanman]

jim once you have done your car totally finished you would get that

[Jim]

jim once you have done your car totally finished you would get that

Huh? :|

Jim

[r0b]

well done mate, good time!