View Full Version : How much would it cost to build a brand new nova?
macmillan02
27-07-05, 03:20 PM
Could it be done?
I know you can buy new shells etc, so do you think it can be done? Register it as a 2005 model....... a 2005 nova.. doesnt sound right :lol:
Well tbh, if novas were made right now, and were released brand new, i dont think many people would buy one over new cars. I think the book price for like a 1.2 was about ?8000 when they came out,lol.
Aragorn
27-07-05, 03:45 PM
it would never pass modern safety or emissions criteria for a start so would never be able to have an 05 plate
and there arent any new shells left anymore
hmm seen this before. oh yeah a few months ago...... :roll:
wake up kids its never gonna happen.... well ok it had, there is a 2005 nova, its the corsa C
Rick Draper
27-07-05, 05:22 PM
I am currently trying my best to build a brand new nova! lol Every fooking bit on my car is new, modded or reconned.
macmillan02
27-07-05, 06:05 PM
it would never pass modern safety or emissions criteria for a start so would never be able to have an 05 plate
and there arent any new shells left anymore
If vauxhall remade it as say a special edition thing they could upgrade it.
As for the new shells cant you get them from spain?
Philsutton
27-07-05, 06:11 PM
i'd buy one over a new car any day, new cars are electric boring things that stop you actually driving the car. Hell soon they will probably have a device that stubs your fag out as soon as you spark up.
mikey14sr
27-07-05, 06:24 PM
some kit-cars are based around fibreglass shells with components from an older car bolted to it, such as GTM's like the midas.
If someone had the money to develop a brand new nova shell in fibreglass (built over a spaceframe-come-rollcage chassis), you could build one up and register it just like a kit-car, and modern kit-cars are given the registration in effect at the time of the SVA test, so you would end up with a brand new Nova.
The only problems would be getting permission off Vauxhall/Opel/GM to use the design and name, and it would never be a Vauxhall or Opel, as the manufacturer would have to be the name of the company that sell the kit of parts.
i wouldn't buy a new one, whats the point when you can pick an old one up for a few hundred quid, and it probably wouldn't cost as much as buying a new one, to make an old one mint
some kit-cars are based around fibreglass shells with components from an older car bolted to it, such as GTM's like the midas.
If someone had the money to develop a brand new nova shell in fibreglass (built over a spaceframe-come-rollcage chassis), you could build one up and register it just like a kit-car, and modern kit-cars are given the registration in effect at the time of the SVA test, so you would end up with a brand new Nova.
The only problems would be getting permission off Vauxhall/Opel/GM to use the design and name, and it would never be a Vauxhall or Opel, as the manufacturer would have to be the name of the company that sell the kit of parts.
Thats bloody weird, I had the same idea on another thread :o :o
id buy 1 without a doubt, on 1 condition, it was exactly the same as they are now just new, no "improving" etc just brand new, how much would ppl be prepared to pay tho?
apparantly - if you get a shell that doesnt have a chassis number stamped on it, you can reguister it as a Q plate.
As Kev said - wont pass modern safety/emmisions tests but would pass as a kit car.
New legislation means that if you change more than a certain amount of the car from the original then its a kit car.
Fibreglass shell? Why bother - I mean it would be light as feck but then again anyone serious about this would use it for a track (due to weight) and you may as well spend the money on a caterham or westfield.
Shells wise theres no new onesa and any in spain are long gone (or in hiding).
Best bet is to get a 1/2 decent shell, a welding torch and a decent patern part and weld in new panels on the original shell (ie sills, arches etc) - providing the main cockpit is okay the nova is probably one of the easiest cars to repair over and over again!
and it'd be a damn site cheaper that buying a new shell/making on e from fibreglass...
As for the new shells cant you get them from spain?
You got contact details for this as a new shell'd look nice in my new Garage.
Rick Draper
27-07-05, 11:04 PM
As for the new shells cant you get them from spain?
You got contact details for this as a new shell'd look nice in my new Garage.
You cannot get them anymore its a urban myth. Rumors of a field full of novas were dispelled years ago when they were all crushed and replaced with a field full of Corsa B's as they had just finished there production run and been replaced by Corsa C's.
sUpEr_1200
28-07-05, 12:18 AM
i'd buy one over a new car any day, new cars are electric boring things that stop you actually driving the car. Hell soon they will probably have a device that stubs your fag out as soon as you spark up.
amen to that...... :)
i wudnt buy one for the fact that i wudnt have the money lol
jamie gsi16v
28-07-05, 12:34 AM
the only way i would buy one is if they came in the gsi design but with a c20let or z20let :D with plenty of strength to mod. i carnt be arsed with bare shell rebuilds any more, there easy but time consuming and stressfull!
Chris14SR
28-07-05, 08:50 AM
I looked into doing the same thing, not with a Nova but with a Mini, which I think would be easier to find the parts for. The Nova you could do but I reckon you'd need a donor car for all the miscellaneous fittings etc, or you'd need the original parts list for the car and a schematic showing where they're all meant to go. Bare shell rebuilds are easyish because you've already got all of the parts. When I worked out how much it would cost to build a mini, about 10% of the cost was the little bits you'd inevitably forget about, and that's with the parts being easily sourced, god knows where you'd get everything from for a new Nova.
However, if you were serious enough about novas you could combine some modern techniques into bodywork treatment, and end up with a car that's built to a higher standard, and last longer than any original Nova.
Chris14SR
28-07-05, 08:57 AM
oh, and the Mini worked out around 11k. Not terrible value really, if you consider the cost of a new car. That was with a brand new, fully built 1275cc stage 2 A+ engine, with twin SU carbs and a Jack Knight straight cut gearbox. And a full Newton vinyl interior, which is about a grand by itself. So basically a Mini with all of the modifications you might want on a Mini, for 11 grand it's not bad value at all. In fact I'd call it a bargain. Until you think about how long it would take you to build an entire car out of every single individual component...
mikey14sr
28-07-05, 10:23 AM
However, if you were serious enough about novas you could combine some modern techniques into bodywork treatment, and end up with a car that's built to a higher standard, and last longer than any original Nova.
If you got the best shell you could find, get it blasted, replace the rusty bits, and go find someone with a galvanising tank big enough to get the whole shell into. There are some polyester-based primers that you can then spray directly over the galv, which would need to be followed by an isolating primer, and then the normal 2k paint over that. Things like doors, bootlids and bonnets would be easiest to try this out on first.
Rob-16v
28-07-05, 02:41 PM
Could it be done?
I know you can buy new shells etc, so do you think it can be done? Register it as a 2005 model....... a 2005 nova.. doesnt sound right :lol:
Where can you buy new nova shells from? i got told you cant buy them any more.
Could it be done?
I know you can buy new shells etc, so do you think it can be done? Register it as a 2005 model....... a 2005 nova.. doesnt sound right :lol:
Where can you buy new nova shells from? i got told you cant buy them any more.
You can't, the guys a dreamer :roll:
mr_nova
28-07-05, 06:38 PM
yo0u can buy new nova shells from www.simpsonsalvage.com for ?450
^ just had a look at their site, don't think I'll be wanting to crash my Celica any time soon...
http://autos.blue-sock.com//clients/1/images/large/456704.jpg
http://autos.blue-sock.com//clients/1/images/large/456705.jpg
:o
mikey14sr
28-07-05, 07:33 PM
yo0u can buy new nova shells from www.simpsonsalvage.com for ?450
thats funny, I've been sending them two e-mails a week asking for a straight nova shell(used), you'd have thought they'd have mentioned that they can get new ones after a year of pestering?
Philsutton
28-07-05, 07:37 PM
I'd make sure you get the tracking done before you go driving in that again, gonna cost a bit in tyres
I seen this done once (in theory) with a morris 1,000 using all parts bought off the shelf, it cost thousands!! way beyond the price when new, you could have got a rolls-royce for the price :lol:
^ just had a look at their site, don't think I'll be wanting to crash my Celica any time soon...
http://autos.blue-sock.com//clients/1/images/large/456704.jpg
http://autos.blue-sock.com//clients/1/images/large/456705.jpg
:o
Ah, thats where i left it!!! Doh!!
I bought what is supposedly the last brand new nova bodyshell in october 1998 from a place in northern ireland called fintona autospares. It is the same place that andy windsor (citrine yellow Q plate turbo) bought his shell from two years earlier. In 1993 when vauxhall stopped production on the nova fintona autospares bought the last 50 shells.
krobinson
30-07-05, 02:45 PM
I bought what is supposedly the last brand new nova bodyshell in october 1998 from a place in northern ireland called fintona autospares. It is the same place that andy windsor (citrine yellow Q plate turbo) bought his shell from two years earlier. In 1993 when vauxhall stopped production on the nova fintona autospares bought the last 50 shells.
This is True, Fintona had the last 50 shells, and they told me they sold the last one around 1998. What have you done with that shell? any pictures?
Keith
General Baxter
30-07-05, 03:31 PM
i say buy mine ( its forsale;) ), its goe to be one of the cleanest ORGINALS around ;)
dont mind the brown in the boot its only cardboard :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/My%20Cars/IM000329.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/My%20Cars/IM000328.jpg
all the brown crap has gone from the battery tray now, just with a dab of tcut now shines :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/My%20Cars/IM000325.jpg
Philsutton
30-07-05, 03:36 PM
shame about the colour though :D
General Baxter
30-07-05, 03:46 PM
shame about the colour though :D
and the engine ;) but that can be changed within a few hours ;)
Well if i ever win the lottery im gonna try and commission vauxhall (if i win more than a tenner lol) to build me a brand new nova using the original production lines (if they still exist) lol, jus dont no wot model to go for (pipe dream really but i dont care its a good dream i think lol)
General Baxter
30-07-05, 04:08 PM
Lol go back to the gutter or your box :wink:
Thankyou very much, thats not very nice!!!!! (boo-hoo)
General Baxter
30-07-05, 04:30 PM
sorry but i think all 'hobos' dream like that :wink:
Ooh ya cheeky wench lol, sorry but im only young *ahem* so i think it would be quite a good thing to be able to do if it were possible, lol which i know its not haha
elsey197
31-07-05, 02:14 PM
If you wanted a mint shell there are loads in spain and all the islands, i came back from ibiza today and all the novas that weren't dented were rust free. So go get one of them drive it back and rebuild
ANDYRACER
31-07-05, 02:59 PM
Baxter id have ur nova straight away but ur asking silly money for what really is a 14 year old car. U have it up on ebay for 1200 quid and i can probably if i could be assed to look find a granny racer for about 300 quid.
General Baxter
31-07-05, 03:35 PM
thats they buy it now, if they really want it, they will pay it, try bidding ;)
If you wanted a mint shell there are loads in spain and all the islands, i came back from ibiza today and all the novas that weren't dented were rust free. So go get one of them drive it back and rebuild
Poland is the ideal place as all the cars are RHD as well. Lovely shiney but dust mint Novas that dont know what rust is. Anyone up for a road trip?
the closet thing to a new nova will be that pro drive nova shell that used to be kevs and now stevo 16v i think has it
You think he'd let me have it? Free of coarse. This house building thing is expensive hi!!
Well if i ever win the lottery im gonna try and commission vauxhall (if i win more than a tenner lol) to build me a brand new nova using the original production lines (if they still exist) lol, jus dont no wot model to go for (pipe dream really but i dont care its a good dream i think lol)
Why?
Jim
it'd cost millions for them to re-initiate a production line , as every machine would have to be changed or whatever to produce nova parts.
it's never going to happen - Maybe one day someone might start doing a similar thing to the mini situation, but the nova will never be as much as an icon as the mini , well it might be, but for all the wrong reasons.
Yeah, well if i win the Euro Millions Lotto, which averages out roughly e110 Million each time, I'll hire people to Carve me a Nova out of a single, 10x6x6ft solid piece of Fucking Chewing Gum chewed by Naked Lesbian Porn Stars!!! And i'll go to Poland and Buy all the Mint shells and raffle them on here!!!! :lol:
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