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Whats the difference in a 1200 Gear box and a 1400 item? Is the 14 stronger or what? Basicially i want relayability (spelling)and i want it to be nippy. No motor way miles, just back road thrashng. Through the gears pretty frequently.
Well, 1200 usually only have 4 gears, 1400 have 5.
Thats the main difference.
Don't know if there is any difference in terms of strength tho.
I think 5spd was an optional extra on some 1.2s, possibly standard on some special editions...
1400SR boxes will probably be CR too
Will the 1200 have an F10 and the 1400 have an F13?
A good box to go for is the F13CR with a 4.18FD - Perfect for what your after.
Jim
nathan.
20-07-05, 07:37 PM
1.2's had f10's in them, i think wide ratio.
1.4 sr's have f10 cr
1.4sri's have f13
note the F10 and F13 share the same internals so there is no difference in "strength"
Will the 1200 have an F10 and the 1400 have an F13?
A good box to go for is the F13CR with a 4.18FD - Perfect for what your after.
Jim
Thats the 1400 SRi item, yeah?
you cant rely on the engine size etc for a gearbox ident. you have to read the code to get the acctual box.
Snowface
20-07-05, 10:52 PM
i think it was 1989 when 1200's went to 5-speed.
sUpEr_1200
21-07-05, 04:58 PM
mines 1989 and ive still got 4 speed but the box says 5 ?
im confused!!
you mean the selector on top of the box?
thats a generic part used on most/all small block boxes as it was cheaper.
i think it was 1989 when 1200's went to 5-speed.
Mine is a 1993 and thats a 4spd.
Err, right. Keith told me that if it says CR on the box, then its a close Ratio item. Am getting a few SRi engines and boxes, so i'll pick a CR item and bung it in. Sweeeeeeet!!!
i think it was 1989 when 1200's went to 5-speed.
Mine is a 1993 and thats a 4spd.
Yup, both of mine ('90 and '91) were 4spd. 5 was optional extra iirc....
All of the base models r 4spd it was yer higher up swanky (but still base models) like the merit plus (i think) an the luxe`s that had the extra cog, in the case of the luxe its got 5spd an grey sr window surrounds lol there`s ya luxury bits!!!!
All of the base models r 4spd it was yer higher up w**k (but still base models) like the merit plus (i think) an the luxe`s that had the extra cog, in the case of the luxe its got 5spd an grey sr window surrounds lol there`s ya luxury bits!!!!
....SRi seats too afaik? And leccy windows? and sunroof? And CL?
Gosh, the list of mod cons is endless...
/Razorjack enjoys all the standard features of his GT-Four... :lol:
Nah i wish they had all that would have made my job easier lol, the flair has sr/i coloured interior but without the recaro style seat bolsters an the luxe plus has the leccy windows n central lockin, me only got the luxe so had to fit it all myself grrrr!!!!
Snowface
22-07-05, 12:05 PM
i think it was 1989 when 1200's went to optional 5-speed.
i think it was 1989 when 1200's went to optional 5-speed.
Yeah i think that is the case.
As my 93 has a 4spd, but i have seen a few 1991/92 with 5spds.
Don't really see much point of the 5spd to be honest.
Mine seems comfortable on the motorway with just 4 gears.
BANG, got a dead 1600 EFi Nova engine, dunno if its GSi or GTE, but the box is mint. Will it benifit me?
krobinson
23-07-05, 07:55 PM
Yes, should be the F13 CR box, will fit straight in and help alot.
Keith
Great stuff, now to port the 13 head. Got the fucked engine, anything worth taking off it?
1.6 EFI, with a big hole in the block. Siezed solid.
check the number on the end plate, i had a gte/gsi box and it was a WR
WR, meaning Wide Ratio obviously. Cant actually see anything denoting what ratio it is. Anyone got a pic of where it should be?
http://kevingalloway.myby.co.uk/box.jpg
Snowface
24-07-05, 03:17 PM
Yes, should be the F13 CR box, will fit straight in and help alot.
Keith
thats the case most of the time but don' take it as gospel.
My E16SE has a WR394.
Cheers Stu, time to get the power Washer out!!!
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